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Ok Michael, going with your scenario with money not an object..... I'd
go with a DragonKote ( http://www.mermaidhouse.com/ ) pond installation. It's a spray on pond liner system that is 100% polyurea. Mermaidhouse know's what their doing and what it takes to build a functioning koi pond. Now I know you're going to ask why I'd choose this system over liner or concrete so here's why... As mentioned concrete can have issues. It needs to be sealed from time to time. If it develops even a hairline crack (and you're in quake country!) it can be a real bugger to get it fixed. Liner can have issues as well, the biggie for me being wrinkles. Wrinkles trap debris and milm and even fish! Bottom drains are essential in koi ponds but if there are a lot of wrinkles they aren't very efficient (or good for that matter) at removing the mulm. A DragonKote pond gives the best of both. Depending on the soil conditions, local building codes etc. a supporting structure is built. Either a gunite like product is sprayed in/on the hole or block is used. Then the DragonKote is sprayed on the supporting structure with absolutely NO wrinkles and it can be sprayed right up to/on skimmers, bottom drains, etc to there will be no leaking issues. A DragonKote pond can be easily expanded as well as the polyurea can stick to itself. I happen to have 3 net-friends that have built DragonKote ponds, all are beautiful, highly functioning koi ponds. For me, I happen to think this is one of the best products out there right now. Out of curiosity you should post this question on the pond building forum at http://www.koiphen.com There are some professional pond builders in residence there that will gladly advise folks. They will help out with filtration designs as well as koi have very specific requirements. Even a beautiful looking pond can be a nightmare if the filtrations not up to the job and the fish start dying. Janet in sunny Niagara Falls (posting through Google because for some reason my replys aren't showing up) (Michael Capone) wrote in message . com... Hi Folks, Been doing a lot of reading lately on the concrete vs. 45-mil liner issue when setting up a fish pond. I'd like to ask the question in a slightly different way: Assume that money is no object (for the moment, at least; I'm sure I'll come to my senses soon...) Also, assume that I don't have to set it up myself (I have a competent fish pond installer who can go either route, and is at this very moment sitting around waiting for me to make up my mind on which direction to go). Given those two criteria, I'd like to know, which pond bottom is best in the long run? Since ease of installation is not a concern, I'd like to hear from people who have had to live with one or the other for some time. Is maintenance easier on one or the other? Is one "prettier" than the other (highly subjective, I know). Does algae grow on concrete and not come off? I should mention that I live near San Jose, CA; earthquakes can happen, although I'm not sure how big a deal this is. I don't get the extreme temperatures, though (freezing nights are relatively rare, though it can get up to 100 F on occasion). There are no tree roots anywhere nearby that I have to worry about. So, thoughts? Thanks in advance for any input. I've been tearing my hair out over this crazy issue. Thanks! Michael |
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