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10-09-2004, 01:30 AM
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On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 23:59:18 GMT, "RichToyBox"
wrote: ===Definition of a weed. Any plant growing where you don't want it. Grass in ===the flower bed is a weed, but in the lawn is great. Reseeding annuals in my ===rose bed are weeds, but in the rest of the flower bed are desirable plants. ===My taro grows both in the pond and in the soil around the pond. I consider ===that outside the pond a weed, since it goes everywhere, my SO thinks it is a ===desirable plant. Ah yes, Taro, my place is full of it. The wife adores it, and plants it everywhere she can....She loves those large leaves.........looks nice to a certain point but I usually am the one having to cleanup all the stalks and leaves when it quits growing for the season. The taro around the pond would not be so bad, but the banks are pretty steep and its pretty deep there, so it requires a boat to get all the debri up..... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
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#17
10-09-2004, 01:30 AM
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On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 23:59:18 GMT, "RichToyBox"
wrote: ===Definition of a weed. Any plant growing where you don't want it. Grass in ===the flower bed is a weed, but in the lawn is great. Reseeding annuals in my ===rose bed are weeds, but in the rest of the flower bed are desirable plants. ===My taro grows both in the pond and in the soil around the pond. I consider ===that outside the pond a weed, since it goes everywhere, my SO thinks it is a ===desirable plant. Ah yes, Taro, my place is full of it. The wife adores it, and plants it everywhere she can....She loves those large leaves.........looks nice to a certain point but I usually am the one having to cleanup all the stalks and leaves when it quits growing for the season. The taro around the pond would not be so bad, but the banks are pretty steep and its pretty deep there, so it requires a boat to get all the debri up..... Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
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#18
10-09-2004, 05:15 AM
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"RichToyBox" wrote in message news:q760d.158363$Fg5.114707@attbi_s53... Definition of a weed. Any plant growing where you don't want it. Grass in the flower bed is a weed, but in the lawn is great. Reseeding annuals in my rose bed are weeds, but in the rest of the flower bed are desirable plants. My taro grows both in the pond and in the soil around the pond. I consider that outside the pond a weed, since it goes everywhere, my SO thinks it is a desirable plant. ======================= I know the definition of what a weed is. :-) I mean the plants down by the river are not attractive. Not all plants are pretty or have nice shapes or pretty flowers. Some are just spindly, dangly, ratty looking things and either don't flower or the flowers are small or also unattractive. I look at the whole plant before I decide to buy or adopt it. -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "If two men agree on everything, you can be sure only one of them is doing the thinking." ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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#19
10-09-2004, 05:15 AM
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"RichToyBox" wrote in message news:q760d.158363$Fg5.114707@attbi_s53... Definition of a weed. Any plant growing where you don't want it. Grass in the flower bed is a weed, but in the lawn is great. Reseeding annuals in my rose bed are weeds, but in the rest of the flower bed are desirable plants. My taro grows both in the pond and in the soil around the pond. I consider that outside the pond a weed, since it goes everywhere, my SO thinks it is a desirable plant. ======================= I know the definition of what a weed is. :-) I mean the plants down by the river are not attractive. Not all plants are pretty or have nice shapes or pretty flowers. Some are just spindly, dangly, ratty looking things and either don't flower or the flowers are small or also unattractive. I look at the whole plant before I decide to buy or adopt it. -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "If two men agree on everything, you can be sure only one of them is doing the thinking." ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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#20
10-09-2004, 05:20 AM
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"Roy" wrote in message ... While I can't say with certainlty, I doubt there is any problems with these plants, but I am going to quarrantine them for a while before I do anything with them........stil looking for ways to sterilize them, and about all I found so far is to use potassium permanganate, poured into the water until it turns purple, which I would have to order if thats the method to use. ========================== I soak all new plants in PP, whether from the river, a friend or the store. I use double the strength, drain the pots for a few hours first to make sure the PP soaks/saturates the soil. I leave them there for at least 24 to 48 hours. So far, so good.... -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "If two men agree on everything, you can be sure only one of them is doing the thinking." ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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#21
10-09-2004, 05:20 AM
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"Roy" wrote in message ... While I can't say with certainlty, I doubt there is any problems with these plants, but I am going to quarrantine them for a while before I do anything with them........stil looking for ways to sterilize them, and about all I found so far is to use potassium permanganate, poured into the water until it turns purple, which I would have to order if thats the method to use. ========================== I soak all new plants in PP, whether from the river, a friend or the store. I use double the strength, drain the pots for a few hours first to make sure the PP soaks/saturates the soil. I leave them there for at least 24 to 48 hours. So far, so good.... -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "If two men agree on everything, you can be sure only one of them is doing the thinking." ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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#22
10-09-2004, 01:04 PM
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IMO, PP is overkill, a simple 15 minute rinse under a cold water tap should be more than enough to wipe out any 'nasties'. PP is for the paranoid neurotics  If you still insist on using something stronger and can't get your hands on PP then a household bleach mixed 10:1 with water will do the trick aswell. Soak the plants for about 5 minutes. HTH -- **So long, and thanks for all the fish!** "Benign Vanilla" wrote in message ... "Roy" wrote in message ... Went to buy some rocks today for half barrel. On the way I spotted a huge swampy area. So on the way back I stopped and pulled over off the road and went out to have a look. snip I suggest you learn about PP, before those plants hit your pond. You have no idea what critters you may be bringing along. Wow, I get to use this link twice in one day, http://www.iheartmypond.com/Treatmen...te/default.asp. BV. |
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#23
10-09-2004, 01:04 PM
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IMO, PP is overkill, a simple 15 minute rinse under a cold water tap should be more than enough to wipe out any 'nasties'. PP is for the paranoid neurotics If you still insist on using something stronger and can't get your hands on PP then a household bleach mixed 10:1 with water will do the trick aswell. Soak the plants for about 5 minutes. HTH -- **So long, and thanks for all the fish!** "Benign Vanilla" wrote in message ... "Roy" wrote in message ... Went to buy some rocks today for half barrel. On the way I spotted a huge swampy area. So on the way back I stopped and pulled over off the road and went out to have a look. snip I suggest you learn about PP, before those plants hit your pond. You have no idea what critters you may be bringing along. Wow, I get to use this link twice in one day, http://www.iheartmypond.com/Treatmen...te/default.asp. BV. |
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#24
10-09-2004, 01:54 PM
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:04:16 +0200, "Happy'Cam'per" wrote:
=== ===IMO, PP is overkill, a simple 15 minute rinse under a cold water tap should ===be more than enough to wipe out any 'nasties'. PP is for the paranoid ===neurotics ===If you still insist on using something stronger and can't get your hands on ===PP then a household bleach mixed 10:1 with water will do the trick aswell. ===Soak the plants for about 5 minutes. HTH I have been told by the local water garden supplier here all they use is Bromine (hot tub disenfectant) and place plants in tubs with 1 to 3 ppm of Bromine in it, for 24 hours, remmove and rinse well, and then place plants in the for sale area........Even if you do not rinse the plants after they have been in bromine, it will dissapate within a day or two and become inert. I have bromine that I use in my hot tub, and since my hot tub is due its (or at least close enough to change anyway) quartly drain and refill I just may use that water to soak the plants in. I have been using my hot tubs water for some time now to water plants etc with when I drain it, and none have ever showed any signs of being stressed or killed by it, and bromine is one powerfull disenfectant. I would of course rise and soak plants in clean fresh water as bromine would not be good for fish, but I have to think it wold work just fine... Guess there is only one way to find out! Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
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#25
10-09-2004, 01:54 PM
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:04:16 +0200, "Happy'Cam'per" wrote:
=== ===IMO, PP is overkill, a simple 15 minute rinse under a cold water tap should ===be more than enough to wipe out any 'nasties'. PP is for the paranoid ===neurotics ===If you still insist on using something stronger and can't get your hands on ===PP then a household bleach mixed 10:1 with water will do the trick aswell. ===Soak the plants for about 5 minutes. HTH I have been told by the local water garden supplier here all they use is Bromine (hot tub disenfectant) and place plants in tubs with 1 to 3 ppm of Bromine in it, for 24 hours, remmove and rinse well, and then place plants in the for sale area........Even if you do not rinse the plants after they have been in bromine, it will dissapate within a day or two and become inert. I have bromine that I use in my hot tub, and since my hot tub is due its (or at least close enough to change anyway) quartly drain and refill I just may use that water to soak the plants in. I have been using my hot tubs water for some time now to water plants etc with when I drain it, and none have ever showed any signs of being stressed or killed by it, and bromine is one powerfull disenfectant. I would of course rise and soak plants in clean fresh water as bromine would not be good for fish, but I have to think it wold work just fine... Guess there is only one way to find out! Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com Opinions expressed are those of my wife, I had no input whatsoever. Remove "nospam" from email addy. |
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#26
10-09-2004, 02:47 PM
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Roy wrote:
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:04:16 +0200, "Happy'Cam'per" wrote: === ===IMO, PP is overkill, a simple 15 minute rinse under a cold water tap should ===be more than enough to wipe out any 'nasties'. PP is for the paranoid ===neurotics ===If you still insist on using something stronger and can't get your hands on ===PP then a household bleach mixed 10:1 with water will do the trick aswell. ===Soak the plants for about 5 minutes. HTH PP might be overkill. But it's cheap, and cold water will only rinse off the good sized bugs. It certainly isn't going to eliminate microscopic organisms. I have been told by the local water garden supplier here all they use is Bromine (hot tub disenfectant) and place plants in tubs with 1 to 3 That sounds like a _very_ poor idea to me. Bromine is a really close relative to chlorine. Chlorine added to water containing organics creates trihalomethanes - carcinogens - and it doesn't even kill most of the more insidious bugs in our drinking water like paramecium (paramecia?) and giardia. I can't see Bromine being any more effective. -- derek |
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#27
10-09-2004, 02:47 PM
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Roy wrote:
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:04:16 +0200, "Happy'Cam'per" wrote: === ===IMO, PP is overkill, a simple 15 minute rinse under a cold water tap should ===be more than enough to wipe out any 'nasties'. PP is for the paranoid ===neurotics ===If you still insist on using something stronger and can't get your hands on ===PP then a household bleach mixed 10:1 with water will do the trick aswell. ===Soak the plants for about 5 minutes. HTH PP might be overkill. But it's cheap, and cold water will only rinse off the good sized bugs. It certainly isn't going to eliminate microscopic organisms. I have been told by the local water garden supplier here all they use is Bromine (hot tub disenfectant) and place plants in tubs with 1 to 3 That sounds like a _very_ poor idea to me. Bromine is a really close relative to chlorine. Chlorine added to water containing organics creates trihalomethanes - carcinogens - and it doesn't even kill most of the more insidious bugs in our drinking water like paramecium (paramecia?) and giardia. I can't see Bromine being any more effective. -- derek |
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#28
11-09-2004, 05:02 AM
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"Happy'Cam'per" wrote in message ... IMO, PP is overkill, a simple 15 minute rinse under a cold water tap should be more than enough to wipe out any 'nasties'. PP is for the paranoid neurotics ## You would be a paranoid neurotic if you went through some of the things some of us have gone through with parasites and disease in your ponds. :-) PP is cheap insurance. If you still insist on using something stronger and can't get your hands on PP then a household bleach mixed 10:1 with water will do the trick aswell. Soak the plants for about 5 minutes. HTH -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "If two men agree on everything, you can be sure only one of them is doing the thinking." ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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#29
11-09-2004, 05:02 AM
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"Happy'Cam'per" wrote in message ... IMO, PP is overkill, a simple 15 minute rinse under a cold water tap should be more than enough to wipe out any 'nasties'. PP is for the paranoid neurotics ## You would be a paranoid neurotic if you went through some of the things some of us have gone through with parasites and disease in your ponds. :-) PP is cheap insurance. If you still insist on using something stronger and can't get your hands on PP then a household bleach mixed 10:1 with water will do the trick aswell. Soak the plants for about 5 minutes. HTH -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... "If two men agree on everything, you can be sure only one of them is doing the thinking." ~~~~~~{@ "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same." http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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#30
13-09-2004, 08:37 AM
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"Derek Broughton" wrote in message news:6sn812-
PP might be overkill. But it's cheap, and cold water will only rinse off the good sized bugs. It certainly isn't going to eliminate microscopic organisms. A quick soak in PP or Bleach and/or a mild disinfectant, coupled with a cold water rinse will DEFINITELY remove even microscopic organisms. I have recently been dabbling in home tissue culture (cloning of plants), and this is the method of sterilisation I have been using for the cultures. I have varying degrees of success I'll admit, but its working nonetheless (A nice clean Lab would be nice). _ **So long, and thanks for all the fish!** |
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