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In , on 09/24/04
at 06:22 PM, "Benign Vanilla"
said:

No newts yet, but today we found a baby snapping turtle sunning on a rock
near the pond.

Any thoughts on what I should do?

Release him in a stream or pond in a local park, perhaps?

I've contemplated this, but I am not sure it is responsible or not. I would
never release a non-native like my Koi or Goldies, but I dunno about a
passerby turtle.

BV.

wrote in message
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In , on 09/24/04
at 06:22 PM, "Benign Vanilla"
said:

No newts yet, but today we found a baby snapping turtle sunning on a rock
near the pond.

Any thoughts on what I should do?

Release him in a stream or pond in a local park, perhaps?

I've contemplated this, but I am not sure it is responsible or not. I would
never release a non-native like my Koi or Goldies, but I dunno about a
passerby turtle.

BV.

BV - do you have a national park/forest, wildlife refuge or some sort of that
nearby. Maybe a nice Sunday drive and picnic, look at the leaves type trip. Out
here in the west, where they are non natives, I found out there are actually
snapper turtle rescue people who will *pay* to fly the snappers back across the
Rockies to their native stomping grounds to release them. People have
interesting hobbies!


kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

"Ka30P" wrote in message
...

BV - do you have a national park/forest, wildlife refuge or some sort of
that
nearby. Maybe a nice Sunday drive and picnic, look at the leaves type
trip. Out
here in the west, where they are non natives, I found out there are
actually
snapper turtle rescue people who will *pay* to fly the snappers back
across the
Rockies to their native stomping grounds to release them. People have
interesting hobbies!

I'll look into that. Thanks.

BV.

"Ka30P" wrote in message
...

BV - do you have a national park/forest, wildlife refuge or some sort of
that
nearby. Maybe a nice Sunday drive and picnic, look at the leaves type
trip. Out
here in the west, where they are non natives, I found out there are
actually
snapper turtle rescue people who will *pay* to fly the snappers back
across the
Rockies to their native stomping grounds to release them. People have
interesting hobbies!

I'll look into that. Thanks.

BV.

In , on 09/26/04
at 09:07 PM, "Benign Vanilla"
said:

No newts yet, but today we found a baby snapping turtle sunning on a rock
near the pond.

Any thoughts on what I should do?

Release him in a stream or pond in a local park, perhaps?

I've contemplated this, but I am not sure it is responsible or not. I
would never release a non-native like my Koi or Goldies, but I dunno
about a passerby turtle.

Of course you shouldn't release non-native species, or even captive-born
native species (could carry diseases), but a native specimen that made its
way to your yard, or rescued from a road, shouldn't be a problem. You
could call the local Department of Natural Resources if you want an
official answer.

Note that pest control services that catch and remove snakes from homes
release the snakes in suitable habitats.


Alan

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Note that pest control services that catch and remove snakes from homes
release the snakes in suitable habitats.


One of those feel good things that has the wrong impact.

Snooze wrote:


wrote in message
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Note that pest control services that catch and remove snakes from homes
release the snakes in suitable habitats.

One of those feel good things that has the wrong impact.

What wrong impact? On the place they release them? I doubt it. imo, if I
have snakes in my house it means they have a food source, and I would
almost certainly be less happy after removing them, but I know some people
are terrified of snakes. Of course, a lot of those people are terrified of
mice...
--
derek

WHO would buy a snapper? What would you do with him?
BV.

Keep your gator company? Iguana, python, etc. ? Those type of people who
aren't into the warm cuddly type pets.... Oh, wait, that would be us....
Those type of people who like to own pets that can eat them? ;o) ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
...
Snooze wrote:
wrote in message
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Note that pest control services that catch and remove snakes from homes
release the snakes in suitable habitats.
One of those feel good things that has the wrong impact.

What wrong impact? On the place they release them? I doubt it. imo, if I
have snakes in my house it means they have a food source, and I would
almost certainly be less happy after removing them, but I know some people
are terrified of snakes. Of course, a lot of those people are terrified
of
mice...

Probably not as bad for snakes, as it for catch and relocation of mammals.
If you take something like a opossum or a raccoon, and relocate it. Often
the released animal is put inside of some other opossum or raccoon's
territory, so often the released animal dies of stress from constantly being
chased out of someone else's established territory.

Snooze

"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
...
Snooze wrote:
wrote in message
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Note that pest control services that catch and remove snakes from homes
release the snakes in suitable habitats.
One of those feel good things that has the wrong impact.

What wrong impact? On the place they release them? I doubt it. imo, if I
have snakes in my house it means they have a food source, and I would
almost certainly be less happy after removing them, but I know some people
are terrified of snakes. Of course, a lot of those people are terrified
of
mice...

Probably not as bad for snakes, as it for catch and relocation of mammals.
If you take something like a opossum or a raccoon, and relocate it. Often
the released animal is put inside of some other opossum or raccoon's
territory, so often the released animal dies of stress from constantly being
chased out of someone else's established territory.

Snooze

Derek Broughton wrote in message ...
Snooze wrote:
wrote in message
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I know some people are terrified of snakes.
Of course, a lot of those people are terrified of mice...

But the mice are _really_ terrified of snakes:

~~~~~~~~~(; --=;

--
Crashj

Crashj wrote:

Derek Broughton wrote in message
...
Snooze wrote:
wrote in message
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I know some people are terrified of snakes.
Of course, a lot of those people are terrified of mice...

But the mice are _really_ terrified of snakes:

~~~~~~~~~(; --=;

Exactly :-) I love the ascii art!

I found a mouse nest outside once, under a pile of straw. There were at
least a half-dozen blind and naked mice in it. I left it uncovered and 5
minutes later one of the resident garter snakes had cleaned it up.

I'm a big fan of snakes, except in the pond. Other than fish, frogs &
toads, they only eat things I want to get rid of (mice & slugs come to
mind). I figure I can afford to sacrifice a few frogs & toads to keep
them, but I do draw the line at my fish!

Of course, it makes a difference that we don't have to worry about poisonous
snakes.
--
derek

Crashj wrote:

Derek Broughton wrote in message
...
Snooze wrote:
wrote in message
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I know some people are terrified of snakes.
Of course, a lot of those people are terrified of mice...

But the mice are _really_ terrified of snakes:

~~~~~~~~~(; --=;

Exactly :-) I love the ascii art!

I found a mouse nest outside once, under a pile of straw. There were at
least a half-dozen blind and naked mice in it. I left it uncovered and 5
minutes later one of the resident garter snakes had cleaned it up.

I'm a big fan of snakes, except in the pond. Other than fish, frogs &
toads, they only eat things I want to get rid of (mice & slugs come to
mind). I figure I can afford to sacrifice a few frogs & toads to keep
them, but I do draw the line at my fish!

Of course, it makes a difference that we don't have to worry about poisonous
snakes.
--
derek

"Snooze" wrote:


"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
...
Snooze wrote:
wrote in message
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Note that pest control services that catch and remove snakes from homes
release the snakes in suitable habitats.
One of those feel good things that has the wrong impact.

What wrong impact? On the place they release them? I doubt it. imo, if I
have snakes in my house it means they have a food source, and I would
almost certainly be less happy after removing them, but I know some people
are terrified of snakes. Of course, a lot of those people are terrified
of
mice...

Probably not as bad for snakes, as it for catch and relocation of mammals.
If you take something like a opossum or a raccoon, and relocate it. Often
the released animal is put inside of some other opossum or raccoon's
territory, so often the released animal dies of stress from constantly being
chased out of someone else's established territory.

Snooze


I found a rattlesnake in my back yard this spring. I phoned animal control
to see if they would come and get it. They said sure, have someone right
over. I asked what they would do with it. Kill it they said. Real nice. So I
caught the snake and out in a plastic laundry hamper. I dragged it down to
our canyon park and found a ranger. He said, just take it over there and
release it. He then thanked me and mentioned that as we suck up the snake's
habitat most people would just have killed it.

I know most things are far more complicated than that, but I think in
general we do leap to whacking something as our first reaction.

San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.



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