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Old 19-11-2004, 03:53 PM
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1 cubic foot is 7.48065 gallons. So 7.5 is a close enough estimate for our
needs. I think you misunderstand what 1 cubic foot is. Picture a box that

is
1 foot wide, 1 foot deep and 1 foot high. That is 1 cubic foot.

You can also think of 1 cubic foot as a box that is 12 inches wide, 12
inches deep and 12 inches high. That would give you 1728 cubic inches.
Because a water jug is not a perfect cylinder, with out making tedious
measurements and calculations, it would be difficult to calculate the

exact
volume on paper.

Ok, guys, I know that not all newsreaders perform equally, so I won't
belabor the "read the thread" point, but we have established that I typed
one thing while I was thinking another. Derek smoothly pointed out, just in
case I was actually confused, that I must have meant "cubic", even though I
typed "square". And, in my answer, I confirmed that I did indeed understand
the difference. So, please no more assumptions that I am one power short of
volume measurement. Also, I realize now, that 12 cubic inches can refer to
a single row of 12 cubes of one cubic inch each. My mistake was to cube
the 12 in my head, but not in my typing. Sorry for the sloppy description
of my thought processes. The whole point I was trying to make and clarify
for myself is that if you took seven and a half gallon jugs and poured them
into a container, they would fill a "lot" of space, and that "box" that is
12 inches in each direction didn't seem, in my mind, to be big enough to
hold it all. Does this not resonate with anyone, here? I have had several
people react in disbelief when they were present as I was working out the
volume of possible pond configurations, and they heard for the first time
how many gallons of water were in a cubic foot.

Perhaps an easy way to satisfy your curiosity, would be to take a 1 cubic
foot box, fill it with rice, then slowly pour the rice from the box into

the
5 gallon jug. You will see that when the jug is full, you still have about
1/3rd the rice still in the box. I hope that this was able to improve your
mental image.

If I knew where to get a water-tight box like that, I would try it, just to
see. I don't want to go get a bunch of rice or sand. I have plenty of
water. I do appreciate your understanding that this is just a curiosity
issue on my part. I think crash thought I wasn't willing to use the
conversion factor because it was hard for me to picture in my head.




PS before engineers were able to calculate the volume of awkward shapes,
such as the interior of a car on a computer, one of the techniques they
used, was to pour foam peanuts in from a hole in the roof, and keep track

of
how many bags of foam peanuts it took to fill the inside. Otherwise they

had
to make estimates by making many measurements and calculations of smaller
chunks of the car, and adding up all those chunks.


Can't resist: was each bag of peanuts shaped like a cubic foot? Still,
that's pretty interesting. I wonder what they did before we had foam
peanuts. Rice would be hard to clean out of a car.


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The whole point I was trying to make and clarify
for myself is that if you took seven and a half gallon jugs and poured

them
into a container, they would fill a "lot" of space, and that "box" that is
12 inches in each direction didn't seem, in my mind, to be big enough to
hold it all. Does this not resonate with anyone, here? I have had

several
people react in disbelief when they were present as I was working out the
volume of possible pond configurations, and they heard for the first time
how many gallons of water were in a cubic foot.


If I didn't know the conversions between 1 cubic foot and gallons, I bet I
would easily underestimate how many gallons are in 1 cubic foot. Most people
dont have the skills or mental aptitude to look at different shaped volumes
and estimate the the difference in volume. Not to mention, a cubic foot is
not a measurement that most people use on a regular basis, so you don't have
a good mental picture as to what it looks like.

[Snip]

If I knew where to get a water-tight box like that, I would try it, just

to
see. I don't want to go get a bunch of rice or sand. I have plenty of
water. I do appreciate your understanding that this is just a curiosity
issue on my part. I think crash thought I wasn't willing to use the
conversion factor because it was hard for me to picture in my head.


Fill a 1 gallon milk jug with m&m's, do that 5 times, and you'll have a
lifetime supply of m&ms and your answer Around the holidays you can get 3
pound bags of m&ms, they're probably about 1/4 cubic foot.

Can't resist: was each bag of peanuts shaped like a cubic foot? Still,
that's pretty interesting. I wonder what they did before we had foam
peanuts. Rice would be hard to clean out of a car.


The method depends on how important an accurate answer is. Before foam
peanuts, they could have used ping pong balls, tennis balls, baseballs. The
larger the ball, the less accurate your answer is. Shipping rooms buy foam
peanuts by the cubic yard all the time. How accurate the answer is depends
on the application.

Buy a yard of cloth from the fabric store, and the clerk will pull a pull
some cloth over a yard stick, and give you a few inches more. Measure the
clearance of the valves to an engine and you might be concerned with 1/100th
of an inch. Design a circuit on a computer chip, and you're concerned with
micrometer. Draw your company logo using individual atoms on a silicon
crystal using individual atoms and you're probably concerned with nanometers
or smaller.

Snooze


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