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Bubbler pumps
I went to the store and looked at all of the little bubbler pumps for
aquariums....I had one years ago, that worked well, but I can't remember how "strong" it was... I have a small D shaped pond, 5 X 12 at the longest points about 30" deep. Any suggestions? I live in PA, so just want to keep a breathing spot for the 7 goldies... I also used the blue flexible tubing and that got frozen down one year, the pond froze over and everything was lost.... so I was thinking about using the harder clear plastic this year. Any input? I appreciate your time! Maureen |
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" so I was thinking about using the harder clear plastic this year. Any input? Maureen Hi Maureen - I am using the clear, less flexible line and have for ~8 yrs - I have seen the more flexible latex line and decided the stiff line running at a downward slope with no sagging loops was better as no moisture will collect in the line - I have not had a freeze up yet, except for not keeping the the ice dome build up broke open in ~15 F extended periods - now I tap the ice dome to break it daily in real cold periods Gale :~) |
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"Mosfunland" wrote in message ... I went to the store and looked at all of the little bubbler pumps for aquariums....I had one years ago, that worked well, but I can't remember how "strong" it was... I have a small D shaped pond, 5 X 12 at the longest points about 30" deep. Any suggestions? I live in PA, so just want to keep a breathing spot for the 7 goldies... I also used the blue flexible tubing and that got frozen down one year, the pond froze over and everything was lost.... so I was thinking about using the harder clear plastic this year. Any input? I don't use a bubbler at all. I use a smallish 100gph or so pump sitting in the shallows of the pond. It moves the water in a small area just enough to keep a nice hole in the ice. BV. |
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"Mosfunland" wrote in message ... I went to the store and looked at all of the little bubbler pumps for aquariums....I had one years ago, that worked well, but I can't remember how "strong" it was... I have a small D shaped pond, 5 X 12 at the longest points about 30" deep. Any suggestions? I live in PA, so just want to keep a breathing spot for the 7 goldies... I also used the blue flexible tubing and that got frozen down one year, the pond froze over and everything was lost.... so I was thinking about using the harder clear plastic this year. Any input? I don't use a bubbler at all. I use a smallish 100gph or so pump sitting in the shallows of the pond. It moves the water in a small area just enough to keep a nice hole in the ice. BV. |
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:25:53 -0600, John Hines
wrote: (Mosfunland) wrote: I went to the store and looked at all of the little bubbler pumps for aquariums....I had one years ago, that worked well, but I can't remember how "strong" it was... I have a small D shaped pond, 5 X 12 at the longest points about 30" deep. Any suggestions? Tetra makes a "deep water" line of pumps, of which the smallest one should work fine. By deep water, they mean a bit higher pressure for tall tanks. Use straight plastic tubing, running straight down so no water collects (and freezes) in it. A straight pipe, straight down is the only thing that has worked for me. If you are in a cold zone, like me, you may have trouble with any of the aquarium pumps. The problem is that they are all diaphragm pumps and when the diaphragm gets cold it stiffens and can not push the air as deep as before. I solved my problem by making my own PVC bubbler and connecting it to my air compressor. The compressor is in the garage (detached) so the noise is not an issue. Some think that running the compressor is more costly than an aquarium pumps but I cranked the numbers and found it to be cheaper to operate. John |
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:25:53 -0600, John Hines
wrote: (Mosfunland) wrote: I went to the store and looked at all of the little bubbler pumps for aquariums....I had one years ago, that worked well, but I can't remember how "strong" it was... I have a small D shaped pond, 5 X 12 at the longest points about 30" deep. Any suggestions? Tetra makes a "deep water" line of pumps, of which the smallest one should work fine. By deep water, they mean a bit higher pressure for tall tanks. Use straight plastic tubing, running straight down so no water collects (and freezes) in it. A straight pipe, straight down is the only thing that has worked for me. If you are in a cold zone, like me, you may have trouble with any of the aquarium pumps. The problem is that they are all diaphragm pumps and when the diaphragm gets cold it stiffens and can not push the air as deep as before. I solved my problem by making my own PVC bubbler and connecting it to my air compressor. The compressor is in the garage (detached) so the noise is not an issue. Some think that running the compressor is more costly than an aquarium pumps but I cranked the numbers and found it to be cheaper to operate. John |
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:25:53 -0600, John Hines
wrote: (Mosfunland) wrote: I went to the store and looked at all of the little bubbler pumps for aquariums....I had one years ago, that worked well, but I can't remember how "strong" it was... I have a small D shaped pond, 5 X 12 at the longest points about 30" deep. Any suggestions? Tetra makes a "deep water" line of pumps, of which the smallest one should work fine. By deep water, they mean a bit higher pressure for tall tanks. Use straight plastic tubing, running straight down so no water collects (and freezes) in it. A straight pipe, straight down is the only thing that has worked for me. If you are in a cold zone, like me, you may have trouble with any of the aquarium pumps. The problem is that they are all diaphragm pumps and when the diaphragm gets cold it stiffens and can not push the air as deep as before. I solved my problem by making my own PVC bubbler and connecting it to my air compressor. The compressor is in the garage (detached) so the noise is not an issue. Some think that running the compressor is more costly than an aquarium pumps but I cranked the numbers and found it to be cheaper to operate. John |
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John Bachman wrote:
On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:25:53 -0600, John Hines wrote: (Mosfunland) wrote: I went to the store and looked at all of the little bubbler pumps for aquariums....I had one years ago, that worked well, but I can't remember how "strong" it was... I have a small D shaped pond, 5 X 12 at the longest points about 30" deep. Any suggestions? Tetra makes a "deep water" line of pumps, of which the smallest one should work fine. By deep water, they mean a bit higher pressure for tall tanks. Use straight plastic tubing, running straight down so no water collects (and freezes) in it. A straight pipe, straight down is the only thing that has worked for me. If you are in a cold zone, like me, you may have trouble with any of the aquarium pumps. The problem is that they are all diaphragm pumps and when the diaphragm gets cold it stiffens and can not push the air as deep as before. You don't need depth to keep the surface open. I solved my problem by making my own PVC bubbler and connecting it to my air compressor. The compressor is in the garage (detached) so the noise is not an issue. Some think that running the compressor is more costly than an aquarium pumps but I cranked the numbers and found it to be cheaper to operate. Yeah I tried that one as well, but the air line freezes up along the way. |
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 09:29:47 -0600, John Hines
wrote: John Bachman wrote: On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:25:53 -0600, John Hines wrote: (Mosfunland) wrote: I went to the store and looked at all of the little bubbler pumps for aquariums....I had one years ago, that worked well, but I can't remember how "strong" it was... I have a small D shaped pond, 5 X 12 at the longest points about 30" deep. Any suggestions? Tetra makes a "deep water" line of pumps, of which the smallest one should work fine. By deep water, they mean a bit higher pressure for tall tanks. Use straight plastic tubing, running straight down so no water collects (and freezes) in it. A straight pipe, straight down is the only thing that has worked for me. If you are in a cold zone, like me, you may have trouble with any of the aquarium pumps. The problem is that they are all diaphragm pumps and when the diaphragm gets cold it stiffens and can not push the air as deep as before. You don't need depth to keep the surface open. I have had ice 18" thick and want my bubbler below that. Even with the bubbler there has been a thin sheet of ice form in the hole during really cold nights. I break that out by hand. I solved my problem by making my own PVC bubbler and connecting it to my air compressor. The compressor is in the garage (detached) so the noise is not an issue. Some think that running the compressor is more costly than an aquarium pumps but I cranked the numbers and found it to be cheaper to operate. Yeah I tried that one as well, but the air line freezes up along the way. Have not had that problem yet. Do you have a moisture collector on the output of your compressor? John |
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 09:29:47 -0600, John Hines
wrote: John Bachman wrote: On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:25:53 -0600, John Hines wrote: (Mosfunland) wrote: I went to the store and looked at all of the little bubbler pumps for aquariums....I had one years ago, that worked well, but I can't remember how "strong" it was... I have a small D shaped pond, 5 X 12 at the longest points about 30" deep. Any suggestions? Tetra makes a "deep water" line of pumps, of which the smallest one should work fine. By deep water, they mean a bit higher pressure for tall tanks. Use straight plastic tubing, running straight down so no water collects (and freezes) in it. A straight pipe, straight down is the only thing that has worked for me. If you are in a cold zone, like me, you may have trouble with any of the aquarium pumps. The problem is that they are all diaphragm pumps and when the diaphragm gets cold it stiffens and can not push the air as deep as before. You don't need depth to keep the surface open. I have had ice 18" thick and want my bubbler below that. Even with the bubbler there has been a thin sheet of ice form in the hole during really cold nights. I break that out by hand. I solved my problem by making my own PVC bubbler and connecting it to my air compressor. The compressor is in the garage (detached) so the noise is not an issue. Some think that running the compressor is more costly than an aquarium pumps but I cranked the numbers and found it to be cheaper to operate. Yeah I tried that one as well, but the air line freezes up along the way. Have not had that problem yet. Do you have a moisture collector on the output of your compressor? John |
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 09:29:47 -0600, John Hines
wrote: John Bachman wrote: On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:25:53 -0600, John Hines wrote: (Mosfunland) wrote: I went to the store and looked at all of the little bubbler pumps for aquariums....I had one years ago, that worked well, but I can't remember how "strong" it was... I have a small D shaped pond, 5 X 12 at the longest points about 30" deep. Any suggestions? Tetra makes a "deep water" line of pumps, of which the smallest one should work fine. By deep water, they mean a bit higher pressure for tall tanks. Use straight plastic tubing, running straight down so no water collects (and freezes) in it. A straight pipe, straight down is the only thing that has worked for me. If you are in a cold zone, like me, you may have trouble with any of the aquarium pumps. The problem is that they are all diaphragm pumps and when the diaphragm gets cold it stiffens and can not push the air as deep as before. You don't need depth to keep the surface open. I have had ice 18" thick and want my bubbler below that. Even with the bubbler there has been a thin sheet of ice form in the hole during really cold nights. I break that out by hand. I solved my problem by making my own PVC bubbler and connecting it to my air compressor. The compressor is in the garage (detached) so the noise is not an issue. Some think that running the compressor is more costly than an aquarium pumps but I cranked the numbers and found it to be cheaper to operate. Yeah I tried that one as well, but the air line freezes up along the way. Have not had that problem yet. Do you have a moisture collector on the output of your compressor? John |
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John Bachman wrote:
On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 09:29:47 -0600, John Hines wrote: John Bachman wrote: On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:25:53 -0600, John Hines wrote: (Mosfunland) wrote: I went to the store and looked at all of the little bubbler pumps for aquariums....I had one years ago, that worked well, but I can't remember how "strong" it was... I have a small D shaped pond, 5 X 12 at the longest points about 30" deep. Any suggestions? Tetra makes a "deep water" line of pumps, of which the smallest one should work fine. By deep water, they mean a bit higher pressure for tall tanks. Use straight plastic tubing, running straight down so no water collects (and freezes) in it. A straight pipe, straight down is the only thing that has worked for me. If you are in a cold zone, like me, you may have trouble with any of the aquarium pumps. The problem is that they are all diaphragm pumps and when the diaphragm gets cold it stiffens and can not push the air as deep as before. You don't need depth to keep the surface open. I have had ice 18" thick and want my bubbler below that. Even with the bubbler there has been a thin sheet of ice form in the hole during really cold nights. I break that out by hand. I would take a watering can with hot tap water out to the pond, and use that to un-freeze the opening. If there is open water, it will evaporate, or be splashed out, so there is a need to fill up the pond. I solved my problem by making my own PVC bubbler and connecting it to my air compressor. The compressor is in the garage (detached) so the noise is not an issue. Some think that running the compressor is more costly than an aquarium pumps but I cranked the numbers and found it to be cheaper to operate. Yeah I tried that one as well, but the air line freezes up along the way. Have not had that problem yet. Do you have a moisture collector on the output of your compressor? No, they are not cheap. |
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John Bachman wrote:
On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 09:29:47 -0600, John Hines wrote: John Bachman wrote: On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:25:53 -0600, John Hines wrote: (Mosfunland) wrote: I went to the store and looked at all of the little bubbler pumps for aquariums....I had one years ago, that worked well, but I can't remember how "strong" it was... I have a small D shaped pond, 5 X 12 at the longest points about 30" deep. Any suggestions? Tetra makes a "deep water" line of pumps, of which the smallest one should work fine. By deep water, they mean a bit higher pressure for tall tanks. Use straight plastic tubing, running straight down so no water collects (and freezes) in it. A straight pipe, straight down is the only thing that has worked for me. If you are in a cold zone, like me, you may have trouble with any of the aquarium pumps. The problem is that they are all diaphragm pumps and when the diaphragm gets cold it stiffens and can not push the air as deep as before. You don't need depth to keep the surface open. I have had ice 18" thick and want my bubbler below that. Even with the bubbler there has been a thin sheet of ice form in the hole during really cold nights. I break that out by hand. I would take a watering can with hot tap water out to the pond, and use that to un-freeze the opening. If there is open water, it will evaporate, or be splashed out, so there is a need to fill up the pond. I solved my problem by making my own PVC bubbler and connecting it to my air compressor. The compressor is in the garage (detached) so the noise is not an issue. Some think that running the compressor is more costly than an aquarium pumps but I cranked the numbers and found it to be cheaper to operate. Yeah I tried that one as well, but the air line freezes up along the way. Have not had that problem yet. Do you have a moisture collector on the output of your compressor? No, they are not cheap. |
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