On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:30:39 GMT, (Roy) wrote:

Well I view it as a sign of sarcasim or being catty.

Moi catty or sarcastic? I try not to go there on usenet (anymore).

Use your little symbols all you want, I'll put what I have to say in words, so there
is no possiblity of you or anyone else missing it or missinterpreting
it

Okay.... so tell me how I can pull you leg and let you know, or would it
have been better to say just kidding would that have worked? ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

"Mike C" wrote:
1)I've read that if ice forms in the winter you shouldn't pound on it
so you don't disturb the domant Koi. Certainly hitting with a new would
disturb them even more.

Yup. Disturbing dormant koi == bad. Leaving dead koi in water == worse.
Such is triage.

2) Fish die all the time in nature and nobody gets them out.

And if it happens in a small enough ecosystem, they *all* die. Most of the
ponds we deal with here are basically big aquariums, and w-a-a-a-y closer to the
carrying capacity limits of the ecosystem than your typical "natural" setup.
That means a lot more hand-holding on the part of the pondskeeper.

3) If the pond was covered in snow/ice, you wouldn't even know there
was a dead fish to remove.

Yup, and there'd be a pretty good chance all your koi would be sick or dead by
spring in that case. You got lucky.

You were among the very first I added to my asshole list Joe boy! You
among the top 3 or 4......
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:27:15 -0500, (REBEL JOE)
wrote:

===Hey Roy add me to your list A-hole
===
===
===
===http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND


REMEMBER: "This is worth repeating for benefit of al newbies!
Jo Ann asked Dr. Solo to remind people that while she has retired from selling GF (and sold
the business to Ken Fischer http://dandyorandas.com/) she has NOT retired from
helping people with sick GF and koi FOR FREE. 251-649-4790 phoning is best for
diagnosis. but, can try email put "help sick fish" in subject. Get your fish at Dandy Orandas
Dandy Orandas Dandy Orandas........you guys got that DANDY ORANDAS

Okay- moot point. I got out my net, lifted the cover and went to remove
the dead fish and it swam away and hid after being touched byt he net.
I thought it was dead as it looked to be laying on its side and not
moving. Of course, it is hard to see down to the bottom with the glare
and stuff.

"Mike C" wrote:
Okay- moot point. I got out my net, lifted the cover and went to remove
the dead fish and it swam away and hid after being touched byt he net.
I thought it was dead as it looked to be laying on its side and not
moving. Of course, it is hard to see down to the bottom with the glare
and stuff.

He wasn't dead? That means you DISTURBED THE KOI WITHOUT CAUSE!
OHNOOHNOOHNO...gotta breathe, breathe...where's my paper bag?....breathe.....

Whew.

Anyway, glad it worked out grin

On 15 Feb 2005 11:38:35 -0800, "Mike C" wrote:

Okay- moot point. I got out my net, lifted the cover and went to remove
the dead fish and it swam away and hid after being touched byt he net.
I thought it was dead as it looked to be laying on its side and not
moving. Of course, it is hard to see down to the bottom with the glare
and stuff.

In that case, the best dormant medication would be to bring the salt up to
0.3% over several days. Without a scrape, my guess is flukes.... only
because I had a fish do similar. The salt got mine thru winter, till I
found out Prazi could be added to cold water (but Prazi is expensive, it
can be a better choice over salt). When I lowered the salt in spring, the
fish started to go back on its side. I added the Prazi and in 24 hours it
was fine..... unfortunately several weeks later it developed terminal
dropsy, died in 3 days. ( ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

Ain't no can be about it, Prazi is certainly better under all
conditions than SALT the super duper all around rec.ponds cure all.



On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:57:50 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

===On 15 Feb 2005 11:38:35 -0800, "Mike C" wrote:
===
===Okay- moot point. I got out my net, lifted the cover and went to remove
===the dead fish and it swam away and hid after being touched byt he net.
===I thought it was dead as it looked to be laying on its side and not
===moving. Of course, it is hard to see down to the bottom with the glare
===and stuff.
===
===In that case, the best dormant medication would be to bring the salt up to
===0.3% over several days. Without a scrape, my guess is flukes.... only
===because I had a fish do similar. The salt got mine thru winter, till I
===found out Prazi could be added to cold water (but Prazi is expensive, it
===can be a better choice over salt). When I lowered the salt in spring, the
===fish started to go back on its side. I added the Prazi and in 24 hours it
===was fine..... unfortunately several weeks later it developed terminal
===dropsy, died in 3 days. ( ~ jan
===
=== ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~


REMEMBER: "This is worth repeating for benefit of al newbies!
Jo Ann asked Dr. Solo to remind people that while she has retired from selling GF (and sold
the business to Ken Fischer http://dandyorandas.com/) she has NOT retired from
helping people with sick GF and koi FOR FREE. 251-649-4790 phoning is best for
diagnosis. but, can try email put "help sick fish" in subject. Get your fish at Dandy Orandas
Dandy Orandas Dandy Orandas........you guys got that DANDY ORANDAS

I MADE ROYS LIST!!!!!!! YAHOOOOOO



http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND

Shut the hell up or I will remove you form it. Right now your the
nucleus of the hole. If you want to stay there sit down and shut up,
or else I'll put BeIgnorant Vanilla Pudding back in that position.

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:13:51 -0500, (REBEL JOE)
wrote:

===I MADE ROYS LIST!!!!!!! YAHOOOOOO
===
===
===
===http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND


REMEMBER: "This is worth repeating for benefit of al newbies!
Jo Ann asked Dr. Solo to remind people that while she has retired from selling GF (and sold
the business to Ken Fischer http://dandyorandas.com/) she has NOT retired from
helping people with sick GF and koi FOR FREE. 251-649-4790 phoning is best for
diagnosis. but, can try email put "help sick fish" in subject. Get your fish at Dandy Orandas
Dandy Orandas Dandy Orandas........you guys got that DANDY ORANDAS

"REBEL JOE" wrote in message
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I MADE ROYS LIST!!!!!!! YAHOOOOOO
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