Author of Parallel Worlds; stated in the documentary alien worlds
that life is an accident, millions of accidents, so simple, direct and
straight forward. All life on earth is based on pure chance, in a
similar pond like the one in your yard.
No Morals required.

wrote:
Author of Parallel Worlds; stated in the documentary alien worlds
that life is an accident, millions of accidents, so simple, direct and
straight forward. All life on earth is based on pure chance, in a
similar pond like the one in your yard.
No Morals required.


Its your perfect world, Jabber Sockpuppet.

wrote:
Author of Parallel Worlds; stated in the documentary alien worlds
that life is an accident, millions of accidents, so simple, direct
and
straight forward. All life on earth is based on pure chance, in a
similar pond like the one in your yard.
No Morals required.


Meaning what?

In talk.origins sanoi, hitaasti kuin hämähäkki:
Author of Parallel Worlds; stated in the documentary alien worlds
that life is an accident, millions of accidents, so simple, direct and
straight forward. All life on earth is based on pure chance, in a
similar pond like the one in your yard.
No Morals required.

All hail Michio Kaku!

Do you think Kakusan really studied the pond in my backyard?
How do you think you can maintain a somewhat normal flora
and fauna in a southern pond, without killing people, horses,
and birds for miles with a mosquito infestation?

rich

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rich hammett wrote in
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In talk.origins sanoi, hitaasti kuin hämähäkki:
Author of Parallel Worlds; stated in the documentary alien worlds
that life is an accident, millions of accidents, so simple, direct and
straight forward. All life on earth is based on pure chance, in a
similar pond like the one in your yard.
No Morals required.

All hail Michio Kaku!

Do you think Kakusan really studied the pond in my backyard?
How do you think you can maintain a somewhat normal flora
and fauna in a southern pond, without killing people, horses,
and birds for miles with a mosquito infestation?

rich


Those must be a different species of mosquito that the mosquitoes in Texas.
The ones in Texas only take a about 4-6 ounces and leave it's victim alive
to produce more blood. Of course the mosquites are the size of parakeets
and generally don't carry small pets off. If you get about 350 of them
they can carry a small child off which is the reason for all those "Amber
Alerts" you see originating from Texas.

rj

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wrote:
Author of Parallel Worlds; stated in the documentary alien worlds
that life is an accident, millions of accidents, so simple, direct and
straight forward. All life on earth is based on pure chance, in a
similar pond like the one in your yard.

I too saw the program and cringed when Dr. Kaku said that because I
*knew* it would be mis-interpreted.

In scientific context, the terms chance, random and accident mean 'not
pre-determined'.

The topic of the program was-what might life on other planets look like?

What Dr. Kaku ment was that the *specific* course evolution on Earth
took was not pre-determined but rather the result of adaptation to
chance (not pre-determined)environmental conditions.

If life exists on other planets, it would probably be very different
because conditions there (the chance part) would likely be very different.

No Morals required.


Huh?

bggarchow wrote:
wrote:
Author of Parallel Worlds; stated in the documentary alien worlds
that life is an accident, millions of accidents, so simple, direct
and
straight forward. All life on earth is based on pure chance, in a
similar pond like the one in your yard.

I too saw the program and cringed when Dr. Kaku said that because I
*knew* it would be mis-interpreted.

In scientific context, the terms chance, random and accident mean
'not
pre-determined'.


Who said it was?


The topic of the program was-what might life on other planets look
like?

What Dr. Kaku ment was that the *specific* course evolution on Earth
took was not pre-determined but rather the result of adaptation to
chance (not pre-determined)environmental conditions.


Chance is not pre-determined.

If life exists on other planets, it would probably be very different
because conditions there (the chance part) would likely be very
different.

No Morals required.


Huh?

survival of the fitest is based on chance.

wrote:

.. . . .

survival of the fitest is based on chance.


"Survival of the fittest" as Charles Darwin used the term (Origin, 6th
ed)? Or as Herbert Spencer used it?

Toss a coin, stand in the wake of a comet.

["Followup-To:" header set to talk.origins.]
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wrote:

. . . .

survival of the fitest is based on chance.


"Survival of the fittest" as Charles Darwin used the term (Origin, 6th
ed)? Or as Herbert Spencer used it?

Actually it wasn't used there. It was used after the fact to sum up
the theory and he liked it so much he didn't fight it and started
using it himself.

Or in the words of Bryson in "A Short History of Nearly Everything":

Darwin didn't use the phrase "survival of the
fittest" in any of his works (though he did
express his admiration for it). The expression
was coined five years after the publication of
On the Origin of Species by Herbert Spencer in
Principles of Biology in 1864.

Not that I keep up on these types of things.

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On Tue, 17 May 2005, wrote:

survival of the fitest is based on chance.

SotF describes a _bias_ to chance.

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Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas

Bobby D. Bryant wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2005, wrote:

survival of the fitest is based on chance.

SotF describes a _bias_ to chance.

--
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas


Explain, Spock.

Dylan wrote:



Explain, Spock.

It is only logical.

Bob Kolker

On Tue, 17 May 2005, "Dylan" wrote:


Bobby D. Bryant wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2005, wrote:

survival of the fitest is based on chance.

SotF describes a _bias_ to chance.

Explain, Spock.

SotF means that those that are "more fit" are more likely to survive
and reproduce. Chance still plays a role -- even the fittest might
be struck by lightning before breeding -- but chance isn't the *only*
thing that goes into the determination of which creatures reproduce
and which don't.

I.e., SotF _biases_ the chance.

--
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas

Bobby D. Bryant wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2005, "Dylan" wrote:


Bobby D. Bryant wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2005, wrote:

survival of the fitest is based on chance.

SotF describes a _bias_ to chance.

Explain, Spock.

SotF means that those that are "more fit" are more likely to survive
and reproduce. Chance still plays a role -- even the fittest might
be struck by lightning before breeding -- but chance isn't the *only*
thing that goes into the determination of which creatures reproduce
and which don't.

I.e., SotF _biases_ the chance.

--
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas

Do you mean that cave fish that have evolved into blindness are more
fit than their ancestors?