[james1]

Hello

Can anyone here please help me identify this tree growing near my home in London?

I hope the images are clear enough to see...

These were taken today (30th April).

http://i40.tinypic.com/2a65o8w.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/jhx210.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/2uo3vyg.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2diivwn.jpg

Thanks in advance

[Pam Moore[_2_]]

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:12:33 +0100, james1
jamesjampot@g00glemaildotcom wrote:


Hello

Can anyone here please help me identify this tree growing near my home
in London?

I hope the images are clear enough to see...

These were taken today (30th April).

[image: http://i40.tinypic.com/2a65o8w.jpg]
[image: http://i43.tinypic.com/jhx210.jpg]
[image: http://i41.tinypic.com/2uo3vyg.jpg]
[image: http://i43.tinypic.com/2diivwn.jpg]

Thanks in advance

Can you post a close up of the leaves?

Pam in Bristol

[moghouse]

On Apr 30, 3:12*pm, james1 jamesjampot@g00glemaildotcom wrote:
Hello

Can anyone here please help me identify this tree growing near my home
in London?

I think we can confirm that this is a tree, Jim, but not as we know
it.

[echinosum]

Originally Posted by james1

Hello

Can anyone here please help me identify this tree growing near my home in London?

I hope the images are clear enough to see...

These were taken today (30th April).

http://i40.tinypic.com/2a65o8w.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/jhx210.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/2uo3vyg.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2diivwn.jpg

Thanks in advance

The leaves are only just uncurling, and it may be better to wait a few days so you can get a picture of a mature leaf. Hopefully one will fall off, so we can see a clear picture of a fully formed leaf. There also seem to be some flowers about to come out, again would be nice to see what those look like when they come out.

From the bark, general pattern of the twigs, and approximate shape of the leaves, I'm thinking it might be walnut. They have a distinctive leaf notch at the base (see wikipedia on juglans regia), which we haven't the detail to make out, and should have catkin like flowers. But it could also be some kind of oak that doesn't have lobed leaves like English oak - there are 400 species of oak and they don't all have lobed leaves. And I'm sure there are other options.

[Spider[_2_]]

"james1" jamesjampot@g00glemaildotcom wrote in message
...

Hello

Can anyone here please help me identify this tree growing near my home
in London?

I hope the images are clear enough to see...

These were taken today (30th April).

[image: http://i40.tinypic.com/2a65o8w.jpg]
[image: http://i43.tinypic.com/jhx210.jpg]
[image: http://i41.tinypic.com/2uo3vyg.jpg]
[image: http://i43.tinypic.com/2diivwn.jpg]

Thanks in advance




--
james1


Hard to tell at the moment, James. It looks as if it's about to flower.
Any chance of a picture showing the blossom?

Spider

[Stewart Robert Hinsley]

In message , Spider
writes

"james1" jamesjampot@g00glemaildotcom wrote in message
...

Hello

Can anyone here please help me identify this tree growing near my home
in London?

I hope the images are clear enough to see...

These were taken today (30th April).

[image: http://i40.tinypic.com/2a65o8w.jpg]
[image: http://i43.tinypic.com/jhx210.jpg]
[image: http://i41.tinypic.com/2uo3vyg.jpg]
[image: http://i43.tinypic.com/2diivwn.jpg]

Thanks in advance




--
james1


Hard to tell at the moment, James. It looks as if it's about to flower.
Any chance of a picture showing the blossom?

Spider


It looks as if all the leaves and blossom are way up high where it's not
possible to get a good photograph.

I'd suggest Pyrus communis (pear) or Prunus avium (bird cherry), both of
which can get pretty big, but it's not easy to identify.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

[Spider[_2_]]

"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
...
In message , Spider
writes

"james1" jamesjampot@g00glemaildotcom wrote in message
...

Hello

Can anyone here please help me identify this tree growing near my home
in London?

I hope the images are clear enough to see...

These were taken today (30th April).

[image: http://i40.tinypic.com/2a65o8w.jpg]
[image: http://i43.tinypic.com/jhx210.jpg]
[image: http://i41.tinypic.com/2uo3vyg.jpg]
[image: http://i43.tinypic.com/2diivwn.jpg]

Thanks in advance




--
james1


Hard to tell at the moment, James. It looks as if it's about to flower.
Any chance of a picture showing the blossom?

Spider


It looks as if all the leaves and blossom are way up high where it's not
possible to get a good photograph.

I'd suggest Pyrus communis (pear) or Prunus avium (bird cherry), both of
which can get pretty big, but it's not easy to identify.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley


Yes, I was wondering about Pyrus, Stewart, but something else is nagging at
me and I can't place it. I know a flower pic will be tricky, but it was
worth the question.

Spider

[Dave Hill]

On 1 May, 11:49, echinosum
wrote:
james1;841837 Wrote:

Hello

Can anyone here please help me identify this tree growing near my home
in London?

I hope the images are clear enough to see...

These were taken today (30th April).

[image:http://i40.tinypic.com/2a65o8w.jpg]
[image:http://i43.tinypic.com/jhx210.jpg]
[image:http://i41.tinypic.com/2uo3vyg.jpg]
[image:http://i43.tinypic.com/2diivwn.jpg]

Thanks in advance

The leaves are only just uncurling, and it may be better to wait a few
days so you can get a picture of a mature leaf. Hopefully one will fall
off, so we can see a clear picture of a fully formed leaf. There also
seem to be some flowers about to come out, again would be nice to see
what those look like when they come out.

From the bark, general pattern of the twigs, and approximate shape of
the leaves, I'm thinking it might be walnut. They have a distinctive
leaf notch at the base (see wikipedia on juglans regia), which we
haven't the detail to make out, and should have catkin like flowers.
But it could also be some kind of oak that doesn't have lobed leaves
like English oak - there are 400 species of oak and they don't all have
lobed leaves. And I'm sure there are other options.

--
echinosum

Looking at the last of your pictures,
I wouldn't wory about what sort of tree it is, I'd advise phoning the
council aboricultural officer on Tuesday and geting them out URGENTLY
to look at the tree if it is still in one piece
Looking at the trunk
http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ent=tree02.jpg
I'd say one good gale ond that tree could be gone and anything else in
it's way.
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries

[echinosum]

Originally Posted by Stewart Robert Hinsley

I'd suggest Pyrus communis (pear) or Prunus avium (bird cherry), both of which can get pretty big, but it's not easy to identify.

Isn't it a bit late to be not yet into flower for those, in London, this year?

[beccabunga]

The bark looks a bit like hornbeam, but the leaves are not quite right. The tree has been a bit butchered so it is difficult to see its true growth habit.

[james1]

Wow thanks for all the helpful responses guys!!

Here a some more images I just took. They should be clearer as I haven't cropped them so much.

Luckily there were still a couple of berries on the tree, although quite shrivelled, plus one on the floor underneath. I put it in my hand to get a scale view.

Such a lovely looking tree. I love the 'compact' growth on the tips of the branches (please excuse my Layman's terms).

http://i42.tinypic.com/rhlnbq.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2l9qwwz.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2psemhg.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/hvp1nd.jpg

Originally Posted by Dave Hill

Looking at the last of your pictures,
I wouldn't wory about what sort of tree it is, I'd advise phoning the
council aboricultural officer on Tuesday and geting them out URGENTLY
to look at the tree if it is still in one piece
Looking at the trunk
http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ent=tree02.jpg
I'd say one good gale ond that tree could be gone and anything else in
it's way.
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries

Thanks Dave, I noticed that damage too. I'll do that after the weekend.

[james1]

Just to add that there are two seeds inside the berry that I picked up.

Once this tree has been identified, could I get advice on how to successfully germinate them?

Would love to have one of these in my garden!

Hope it's not asking to much....

Thanks!

[james1]

Originally Posted by james1

Just to add that there are two seeds inside the berry that I picked up.

Once this tree has been identified, could I get advice on how to successfully germinate them?

Would love to have one of these in my garden!

Hope it's not asking to much....

Thanks!

It seems that for some reason my 2nd post with images was not approved.

Sorry for any confusion. I will try again tomorrow

[james1]

This tree has finally come into flower!!!

Any ideas now??

http://i44.tinypic.com/e67xas.jpg

Thanks

[Stewart Robert Hinsley]

In message , james1
writes

This tree has finally come into flower!!!

Any ideas now??

[image: http://i44.tinypic.com/e67xas.jpg]

Thanks

It gives the impression of being some type of whitebeam, but whitebeams
mostly have white undersides to the leaves.

(Himalayan whitebeam, Sorbus cuspidata, seems a better match than the
common whitebeam, Sorbus aria, but I'm not convinced by either
identification.) For a London street tree Sorbus cuspidata is probably
more likely that one of the British endemics.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley