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Are GM Crops Killing Bees? By Gunther Latsch
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...473166,00.html

COLLAPSING COLONIES
"A mysterious decimation of bee populations has German beekeepers
worried, while a similar phenomenon in the United States is gradually
assuming catastrophic proportions. The consequences for agriculture and the
economy could be enormous."



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Here we go!

That's like saying, is solar power killing the bees?

It's pure prattle with zero evidence.



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Here we go!

That's like saying, is solar power killing the bees?

It's pure prattle with zero evidence.


Well, there was that study they noted. What do you think is causing it?


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"cat daddy" wrote in message
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"Justin Wilson" wrote in message
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Here we go!

That's like saying, is solar power killing the bees?

It's pure prattle with zero evidence.


Well, there was that study they noted. What do you think is causing it?


From what I understand it is most likely a fungus, virus, or microbe.

What are examples of topics that the CCD working group is not currently
investigating? GMO crops: Some GMO crops, specifically Bt Corn have been
suggested as a potential cause of CCD. While this possibility has not been
ruled out, CCD symptoms do not fit what would be expected in Bt affected
organisms. For this reason GMO crops are not a "top" priority at the moment.


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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:27:47 -0500, "cat daddy"
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"Justin Wilson" wrote in message
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Here we go!

That's like saying, is solar power killing the bees?

It's pure prattle with zero evidence.


Well, there was that study they noted. What do you think is causing it?


Mites are part of it, but I assure you it's the continuous spraying of
pesticides out the air-o-planes, the GMO evidence is not fully in yet,
but there is a marked change in the population of migrating
butterflies, mainly the Monarch. Then there's Round-up ready soy
beans, corn with Bt-K GMO, on and on. Monsanto and Dow Elanco
continue to kill us.


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"Jangchub" wrote in message
... migrating
butterflies, mainly the Monarch. Then there's Round-up ready soy
beans, corn with Bt-K GMO, on and on. Monsanto and Dow Elanco
continue to kill us.



Well, just in case you didn't know, over the past several million years,
species have come and gone fairly often. It is a NATURAL occurrence. Most
extinctions in history have zero to do with "mankind".



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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 04:12:42 GMT, "Justin Wilson" wrote:


"Jangchub" wrote in message
.. . migrating
butterflies, mainly the Monarch. Then there's Round-up ready soy
beans, corn with Bt-K GMO, on and on. Monsanto and Dow Elanco
continue to kill us.



Well, just in case you didn't know, over the past several million years,
species have come and gone fairly often. It is a NATURAL occurrence. Most
extinctions in history have zero to do with "mankind".



Yeah, that's always the response I get from people in denial. Yeah,
the earth melted ten thousand years ago. However, it didn't melt
within fifty years, it took thousands of years.

Bees are disappearing so it isn't going to matter much anyway since
without them there will be no fruit, or very little to choose from.

My mother in law hates Al Gore, won't watch "An Inconvenient Truth,"
and says with great vengence and hatred as a good Catholice that, GOD
IS IN CHARGE. Oh well.
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 04:12:42 GMT, "Justin Wilson" wrote:


"Jangchub" wrote in message
. .. migrating
butterflies, mainly the Monarch. Then there's Round-up ready soy
beans, corn with Bt-K GMO, on and on. Monsanto and Dow Elanco
continue to kill us.



Well, just in case you didn't know, over the past several million years,
species have come and gone fairly often. It is a NATURAL occurrence. Most
extinctions in history have zero to do with "mankind".



Yeah, that's always the response I get from people in denial. Yeah,
the earth melted ten thousand years ago. However, it didn't melt
within fifty years, it took thousands of years.

Bees are disappearing so it isn't going to matter much anyway since
without them there will be no fruit, or very little to choose from.

My mother in law hates Al Gore, won't watch "An Inconvenient Truth,"
and says with great vengence and hatred as a good Catholice that, GOD
IS IN CHARGE. Oh well.



It is usually wise to be rational and scientific, as opposed to ideological,
unreflective and impetuous.


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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:12:00 GMT, "Justin Wilson" wrote:


It is usually wise to be rational and scientific, as opposed to ideological,
unreflective and impetuous.


The science proves there is no doubt about it; global warming is
happening. Some say, so what's a few degrees. Well, when my
temperature goes up two degrees I have fever, can't move my head, have
horrible aches in my muscles and don't produce. That's the facts.
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"Justin Wilson" wrote in message
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"Jangchub" wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 04:12:42 GMT, "Justin Wilson" wrote:


"Jangchub" wrote in message
... migrating
butterflies, mainly the Monarch. Then there's Round-up ready soy
beans, corn with Bt-K GMO, on and on. Monsanto and Dow Elanco
continue to kill us.


Well, just in case you didn't know, over the past several million years,
species have come and gone fairly often. It is a NATURAL occurrence.
Most
extinctions in history have zero to do with "mankind".



Yeah, that's always the response I get from people in denial. Yeah,
the earth melted ten thousand years ago. However, it didn't melt
within fifty years, it took thousands of years.

Bees are disappearing so it isn't going to matter much anyway since
without them there will be no fruit, or very little to choose from.

My mother in law hates Al Gore, won't watch "An Inconvenient Truth,"
and says with great vengence and hatred as a good Catholice that, GOD
IS IN CHARGE. Oh well.



It is usually wise to be rational and scientific, as opposed to
ideological, unreflective and impetuous.


Rationale and scientific points of view, like everything else today, is
become a political agenda. Hire the right scientist, and he'll say
anything. End purpose, maximize financial profits. But that's digression
from the issue at hand. Otherwise known as dilution.

Bees pollinate our agriculture, thus feed us... Read the OP.
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:23:43 GMT, "Noncompliant"
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Rationale and scientific points of view, like everything else today, is
become a political agenda. Hire the right scientist, and he'll say
anything. End purpose, maximize financial profits. But that's digression
from the issue at hand. Otherwise known as dilution.

Bees pollinate our agriculture, thus feed us... Read the OP.


What was the agenda to go into and invade a nation based on lies? Why
are there more men and women dead and tens of thousands with missing
limbs any better off than the people in the Twin Towers? Was that my
agenda? Why were U.S. Attorneys fired and replaced by "agenda"
attorneys? Why does the administration feel they can have no cameras,
no sworn statements behind closed doors with no transcription okay?
Why does the Navy test sonar (sp?) to the point where dolphins and
whales drop dead of massive internal bleeding? Why aren't there any
bees?

If this makes me agenda-full, so be it. The use of GMO is equivalent
to the addiction to fossil fuel we make sure we have. Yes, I have an
Ford, Expedition. It is over ten years old and has 66,000 miles on
it. Our other car is a Honda, Accord. Still poor gas mileage.

Yes, we all do have an agenda. What's yours? To NOT have one?
Interesting.
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Are GM Crops Killing Bees? By Gunther Latsch
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...473166,00.html
Everytime Jupiter is in its equinox when the Earth is, the bees die.
Now....who can we blame?

It must be Halliburton, Michael Moore SAYS so!



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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:45:32 -0500, Jangchub wrote:

[OT BS snipped]

Your agenda seems to be to fill this group with your OT opinions,
stridently override anyone who disagrees with your rants, and condescend
to anyone who cannot display the same level of "enlightenment" you
believe you have attained.

Free world, and all that, but shouldn't you keep your political screeds in
austin.politics or some other suitable group?

ObGardening - still trying to find time to clear the winter lettuce and
get prepped for spring - maybe once summer is here I can find some . . .
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:30:05 -0500, God Bless Texas
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:45:32 -0500, Jangchub wrote:

[OT BS snipped]

Your agenda seems to be to fill this group with your OT opinions,
stridently override anyone who disagrees with your rants, and condescend
to anyone who cannot display the same level of "enlightenment" you
believe you have attained.

Free world, and all that, but shouldn't you keep your political screeds in
austin.politics or some other suitable group?

ObGardening - still trying to find time to clear the winter lettuce and
get prepped for spring - maybe once summer is here I can find some . . .


Since you snipped my entire post, there is no way to know what you are
talking about. I am not enlightened, I am a reflection of you. When
you look out there for something to exist, you are looking at your
projection.

pax
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