jangchub wrote:
I guess I should have have said, I don't kill with intention. I don't
eat any animals, and I am working toward being a vegan, though that is
difficult to do when I have a livingroom full of Thomasville Leather!
Then again, I did buy it 8 years ago, so...nah, it still isn't yard
sale yet. It's that lifetime type stuff. I digress...

If they're in good condition, I could help you get rid of them.

Victor, mostly vegetarian but definitely not vegan.

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 07:31:10 -0500, Victor Martinez
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jangchub wrote:
I guess I should have have said, I don't kill with intention. I don't
eat any animals, and I am working toward being a vegan, though that is
difficult to do when I have a livingroom full of Thomasville Leather!
Then again, I did buy it 8 years ago, so...nah, it still isn't yard
sale yet. It's that lifetime type stuff. I digress...

If they're in good condition, I could help you get rid of them.

Victor, mostly vegetarian but definitely not vegan.

Mostly vegetarian? Vic, c'mon. Pregnant or not?
At least eat a big animal which feeds many and try to avoid shrimp
because many of those are killed. None of it is good for ME, but His
Holiness says to at least eat a large animal which feeds many. He has
to eat meat from time to time for health reasons and he eats large
animals when he does.

You will be the first to know when I see the furniture. I'm already
tired of it, but my husband will kill me! I won't even say how much
this stuff cost us.

jangchub wrote:
Mostly vegetarian? Vic, c'mon. Pregnant or not?

What I mean by mostly vegetarian is that I don't eat animal flesh
regularly. Once a week or so, it depends. I'm not dogmatic about it
either. I don't do dogma.

At least eat a big animal which feeds many and try to avoid shrimp
because many of those are killed.

When I do purchase animal flesh, I choose, if available, those that are
raised and killed humanely and as organic as possible. I do love shrimp
though.

Holiness says to at least eat a large animal which feeds many. He has
to eat meat from time to time for health reasons and he eats large
animals when he does.

I don't see why anybody would *have* to eat meat for health reasons. The
only essential nutrients meat provide are certain aminoacids, which are
available from non-meat sources.

You will be the first to know when I see the furniture. I'm already
tired of it, but my husband will kill me! I won't even say how much
this stuff cost us.

I'd love to have leather furniture, but with all our cats it would
be impossible to keep it looking good for long. They are very good at
scratching only on their furniture, but they do have claws and the do
use them for traction when racing like wildebeasts in the Serengeti.

Cheers.

Victor, off to yoga

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:10:49 -0500, Victor Martinez
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What I mean by mostly vegetarian is that I don't eat animal flesh
regularly. Once a week or so, it depends. I'm not dogmatic about it
either. I don't do dogma.

I've been accused of being a fundamentalist more than once! I don't
do dogma either, but I think if I ate meat I wouldn't call myself
mostly vegetarian.

I don't see why anybody would *have* to eat meat for health reasons. The
only essential nutrients meat provide are certain aminoacids, which are
available from non-meat sources.

From a Tibetan Medicine perspective, there are certain properties
which contribute to the wind energy, and the central channels, etc.
It's complex, but he follows his Tibetan doctors' advice. It may stem
out of the mere fact there is not much other THAN meat in Tibet,
particularly in winter. Tsampa and yak.

I'd love to have leather furniture, but with all our cats it would
be impossible to keep it looking good for long. They are very good at
scratching only on their furniture, but they do have claws and the do
use them for traction when racing like wildebeasts in the Serengeti.

Cheers.

Victor, off to yoga

We had an 80 pound dog who lived on the couch. This leather is not
ordinary. It is very heavy and very resilient. No cat nail could
penetrate this leather. I do remember before our 14 year old kitties
passes away they would run like wildebeasts in the Serengeti over
these couches and not a scratch.

Om Shanti

Victor Martinez wrote:

I'd love to have leather furniture, but with all our cats it would
be impossible to keep it looking good for long. They are very good at
scratching only on their furniture, but they do have claws and the do
use them for traction when racing like wildebeasts in the Serengeti.

Victor, off to yoga

Going off on a different subject here, we replaced our fabric couches
with leather in January and our cats (4 of 'em) rarely get on the couch
any longer. The dogs (papillons) really love the leather, though, and
sleep almost exclusively on the back of the couches. They seem to like
the noise it makes when they jump up on it. I've been surprised how the
cats avoid the couches now.

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Gary Brady wrote:
Going off on a different subject here, we replaced our fabric couches
with leather in January and our cats (4 of 'em) rarely get on the couch

What kind of leather is it? Is it very thick and hard? We have one
leather seat we inherited and the cats love to sit on it when there's a
human there.


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Victor Martinez wrote:
Gary Brady wrote:
Going off on a different subject here, we replaced our fabric couches
with leather in January and our cats (4 of 'em) rarely get on the couch

What kind of leather is it? Is it very thick and hard? We have one
leather seat we inherited and the cats love to sit on it when there's a
human there.

No, it's soft leather and soft cushioning material underneath. We had
the idea that leather would be easier to keep clean than fabric, and
that has been the case so far. Our cats don't seem to scratch much so
that hasn't been a problem. But one of the dogs really likes to get up
on the back and sink into the cushion.


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On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:17:18 -0500, Victor Martinez
wrote:

Gary Brady wrote:
Going off on a different subject here, we replaced our fabric couches
with leather in January and our cats (4 of 'em) rarely get on the couch

What kind of leather is it? Is it very thick and hard? We have one
leather seat we inherited and the cats love to sit on it when there's a
human there.

My leather is very heavy, but supple. It is nubuck, but lost it's
nap. Very soft to the touch. It has a matte appearance. The dog
liked it because it was cooler than the carpet.