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Old 02-04-2004, 03:59 PM
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We have a spot on a very high & rocky hill. There is a
plateau of about 5000SqFt. that we plan to place about 4"
of top soil & level. We will install an automatic sprinkler
system, so water is not a factor. It will get a lot of sunshine.
We want the 5000' area to end up a well manicured lawn.
There is a rock ledge about 16" under the existing rocky top soil.

QUESTIONS:
1. Which grass would be best. We are looking at St. Augustine
sod, or a heavy planting of Bermuda seed.
2. If we go with Bermuda, is there a place in the Austin area that sells
Bermuda "sod".

THANKS:-)

Gene


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Old 06-04-2004, 09:30 PM
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Gene,

4" of top soil will be plenty for turf. Most places which sell sod are
going to sell bermuda sod. Both Bermuda and St Augustine are warm season
grasses which will do well in full hot sun. There are advantages and
disadvantages to each type. Some people like the look of one or the other.

Here is why I prefer Bermuda over St Augustine:
Lower water needs
Will tollerate traffic better
You can use the types of selective herbicides which kill "grassy" type weeds

Bermuda needs lots of high nitrogen fertilizer. Keep it well fertilized and
adequately watered and you'll have the lawn you're looking for.


"GeneS" wrote in message
...
We have a spot on a very high & rocky hill. There is a
plateau of about 5000SqFt. that we plan to place about 4"
of top soil & level. We will install an automatic sprinkler
system, so water is not a factor. It will get a lot of sunshine.
We want the 5000' area to end up a well manicured lawn.
There is a rock ledge about 16" under the existing rocky top soil.

QUESTIONS:
1. Which grass would be best. We are looking at St. Augustine
sod, or a heavy planting of Bermuda seed.
2. If we go with Bermuda, is there a place in the Austin area that sells
Bermuda "sod".

THANKS:-)

Gene




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Old 06-04-2004, 09:30 PM
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Gene,

4" of top soil will be plenty for turf. Most places which sell sod are
going to sell bermuda sod. Both Bermuda and St Augustine are warm season
grasses which will do well in full hot sun. There are advantages and
disadvantages to each type. Some people like the look of one or the other.

Here is why I prefer Bermuda over St Augustine:
Lower water needs
Will tollerate traffic better
You can use the types of selective herbicides which kill "grassy" type weeds

Bermuda needs lots of high nitrogen fertilizer. Keep it well fertilized and
adequately watered and you'll have the lawn you're looking for.


"GeneS" wrote in message
...
We have a spot on a very high & rocky hill. There is a
plateau of about 5000SqFt. that we plan to place about 4"
of top soil & level. We will install an automatic sprinkler
system, so water is not a factor. It will get a lot of sunshine.
We want the 5000' area to end up a well manicured lawn.
There is a rock ledge about 16" under the existing rocky top soil.

QUESTIONS:
1. Which grass would be best. We are looking at St. Augustine
sod, or a heavy planting of Bermuda seed.
2. If we go with Bermuda, is there a place in the Austin area that sells
Bermuda "sod".

THANKS:-)

Gene




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Old 06-04-2004, 09:30 PM
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Burmuda is probably best done with seed. It will germinate quickly and
provide nice coverage in 3-4 months if well watered to start it out. I agree
with Roy on the advantages of Bermuda. To me, the bad part about Bermuda is
that it is very invasive and if you plan garden beds near the Bermuda you
will have to wage an never ending battle to keep it out.

Have Fun

Jim

"RoyDMercer" wrote in message
...
Gene,

4" of top soil will be plenty for turf. Most places which sell sod are
going to sell bermuda sod. Both Bermuda and St Augustine are warm season
grasses which will do well in full hot sun. There are advantages and
disadvantages to each type. Some people like the look of one or the

other.

Here is why I prefer Bermuda over St Augustine:
Lower water needs
Will tollerate traffic better
You can use the types of selective herbicides which kill "grassy" type

weeds

Bermuda needs lots of high nitrogen fertilizer. Keep it well fertilized

and
adequately watered and you'll have the lawn you're looking for.


"GeneS" wrote in message
...
We have a spot on a very high & rocky hill. There is a
plateau of about 5000SqFt. that we plan to place about 4"
of top soil & level. We will install an automatic sprinkler
system, so water is not a factor. It will get a lot of sunshine.
We want the 5000' area to end up a well manicured lawn.
There is a rock ledge about 16" under the existing rocky top soil.

QUESTIONS:
1. Which grass would be best. We are looking at St. Augustine
sod, or a heavy planting of Bermuda seed.
2. If we go with Bermuda, is there a place in the Austin area that sells
Bermuda "sod".

THANKS:-)

Gene






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Old 06-04-2004, 09:30 PM
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Default Bermuda seed or sod?

Burmuda is probably best done with seed. It will germinate quickly and
provide nice coverage in 3-4 months if well watered to start it out. I agree
with Roy on the advantages of Bermuda. To me, the bad part about Bermuda is
that it is very invasive and if you plan garden beds near the Bermuda you
will have to wage an never ending battle to keep it out.

Have Fun

Jim

"RoyDMercer" wrote in message
...
Gene,

4" of top soil will be plenty for turf. Most places which sell sod are
going to sell bermuda sod. Both Bermuda and St Augustine are warm season
grasses which will do well in full hot sun. There are advantages and
disadvantages to each type. Some people like the look of one or the

other.

Here is why I prefer Bermuda over St Augustine:
Lower water needs
Will tollerate traffic better
You can use the types of selective herbicides which kill "grassy" type

weeds

Bermuda needs lots of high nitrogen fertilizer. Keep it well fertilized

and
adequately watered and you'll have the lawn you're looking for.


"GeneS" wrote in message
...
We have a spot on a very high & rocky hill. There is a
plateau of about 5000SqFt. that we plan to place about 4"
of top soil & level. We will install an automatic sprinkler
system, so water is not a factor. It will get a lot of sunshine.
We want the 5000' area to end up a well manicured lawn.
There is a rock ledge about 16" under the existing rocky top soil.

QUESTIONS:
1. Which grass would be best. We are looking at St. Augustine
sod, or a heavy planting of Bermuda seed.
2. If we go with Bermuda, is there a place in the Austin area that sells
Bermuda "sod".

THANKS:-)

Gene








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Old 06-04-2004, 09:30 PM
Chuck
 
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Default Bermuda seed or sod?

The invasiveness issue is interesting. I have Bermuda. My neighbor has St.
Augustine. Her grass is creeping into my yard, but my Bermuda is not
creeping into hers. Same degree of maturity & sun too.


"Jim Marrs" wrote in message
...
Burmuda is probably best done with seed. It will germinate quickly and
provide nice coverage in 3-4 months if well watered to start it out. I

agree
with Roy on the advantages of Bermuda. To me, the bad part about Bermuda

is
that it is very invasive and if you plan garden beds near the Bermuda you
will have to wage an never ending battle to keep it out.

Have Fun

Jim

"RoyDMercer" wrote in message
...
Gene,

4" of top soil will be plenty for turf. Most places which sell sod are
going to sell bermuda sod. Both Bermuda and St Augustine are warm

season
grasses which will do well in full hot sun. There are advantages and
disadvantages to each type. Some people like the look of one or the

other.

Here is why I prefer Bermuda over St Augustine:
Lower water needs
Will tollerate traffic better
You can use the types of selective herbicides which kill "grassy" type

weeds

Bermuda needs lots of high nitrogen fertilizer. Keep it well fertilized

and
adequately watered and you'll have the lawn you're looking for.


"GeneS" wrote in message
...
We have a spot on a very high & rocky hill. There is a
plateau of about 5000SqFt. that we plan to place about 4"
of top soil & level. We will install an automatic sprinkler
system, so water is not a factor. It will get a lot of sunshine.
We want the 5000' area to end up a well manicured lawn.
There is a rock ledge about 16" under the existing rocky top soil.

QUESTIONS:
1. Which grass would be best. We are looking at St. Augustine
sod, or a heavy planting of Bermuda seed.
2. If we go with Bermuda, is there a place in the Austin area that

sells
Bermuda "sod".

THANKS:-)

Gene








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Old 06-04-2004, 09:30 PM
Chuck
 
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Default Bermuda seed or sod?

The invasiveness issue is interesting. I have Bermuda. My neighbor has St.
Augustine. Her grass is creeping into my yard, but my Bermuda is not
creeping into hers. Same degree of maturity & sun too.


"Jim Marrs" wrote in message
...
Burmuda is probably best done with seed. It will germinate quickly and
provide nice coverage in 3-4 months if well watered to start it out. I

agree
with Roy on the advantages of Bermuda. To me, the bad part about Bermuda

is
that it is very invasive and if you plan garden beds near the Bermuda you
will have to wage an never ending battle to keep it out.

Have Fun

Jim

"RoyDMercer" wrote in message
...
Gene,

4" of top soil will be plenty for turf. Most places which sell sod are
going to sell bermuda sod. Both Bermuda and St Augustine are warm

season
grasses which will do well in full hot sun. There are advantages and
disadvantages to each type. Some people like the look of one or the

other.

Here is why I prefer Bermuda over St Augustine:
Lower water needs
Will tollerate traffic better
You can use the types of selective herbicides which kill "grassy" type

weeds

Bermuda needs lots of high nitrogen fertilizer. Keep it well fertilized

and
adequately watered and you'll have the lawn you're looking for.


"GeneS" wrote in message
...
We have a spot on a very high & rocky hill. There is a
plateau of about 5000SqFt. that we plan to place about 4"
of top soil & level. We will install an automatic sprinkler
system, so water is not a factor. It will get a lot of sunshine.
We want the 5000' area to end up a well manicured lawn.
There is a rock ledge about 16" under the existing rocky top soil.

QUESTIONS:
1. Which grass would be best. We are looking at St. Augustine
sod, or a heavy planting of Bermuda seed.
2. If we go with Bermuda, is there a place in the Austin area that

sells
Bermuda "sod".

THANKS:-)

Gene








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Old 06-04-2004, 09:30 PM
Katra
 
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Default Bermuda seed or sod?

Indeed... I've observed the same thing,
and quite frankly, the St. Augustine is FAR prettier than the Bermuda!

I made a bad judgement in planting Bermuda. I plan to rectify that this
spring by getting some St. Augustine sod from Lowe's. :-P

The Bermuda has been a serious PITA around my raised garden beds!

I may have to Round Up the lot. It's expensive Sh-- too.

K.


In article ,
"Chuck" wrote:

The invasiveness issue is interesting. I have Bermuda. My neighbor has St.
Augustine. Her grass is creeping into my yard, but my Bermuda is not
creeping into hers. Same degree of maturity & sun too.


"Jim Marrs" wrote in message
...
Burmuda is probably best done with seed. It will germinate quickly and
provide nice coverage in 3-4 months if well watered to start it out. I

agree
with Roy on the advantages of Bermuda. To me, the bad part about Bermuda

is
that it is very invasive and if you plan garden beds near the Bermuda you
will have to wage an never ending battle to keep it out.

Have Fun

Jim

"RoyDMercer" wrote in message
...
Gene,

4" of top soil will be plenty for turf. Most places which sell sod are
going to sell bermuda sod. Both Bermuda and St Augustine are warm

season
grasses which will do well in full hot sun. There are advantages and
disadvantages to each type. Some people like the look of one or the

other.

Here is why I prefer Bermuda over St Augustine:
Lower water needs
Will tollerate traffic better
You can use the types of selective herbicides which kill "grassy" type

weeds

Bermuda needs lots of high nitrogen fertilizer. Keep it well fertilized

and
adequately watered and you'll have the lawn you're looking for.


"GeneS" wrote in message
...
We have a spot on a very high & rocky hill. There is a
plateau of about 5000SqFt. that we plan to place about 4"
of top soil & level. We will install an automatic sprinkler
system, so water is not a factor. It will get a lot of sunshine.
We want the 5000' area to end up a well manicured lawn.
There is a rock ledge about 16" under the existing rocky top soil.

QUESTIONS:
1. Which grass would be best. We are looking at St. Augustine
sod, or a heavy planting of Bermuda seed.
2. If we go with Bermuda, is there a place in the Austin area that

sells
Bermuda "sod".

THANKS:-)

Gene









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Katra
 
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Default Bermuda seed or sod?

Indeed... I've observed the same thing,
and quite frankly, the St. Augustine is FAR prettier than the Bermuda!

I made a bad judgement in planting Bermuda. I plan to rectify that this
spring by getting some St. Augustine sod from Lowe's. :-P

The Bermuda has been a serious PITA around my raised garden beds!

I may have to Round Up the lot. It's expensive Sh-- too.

K.


In article ,
"Chuck" wrote:

The invasiveness issue is interesting. I have Bermuda. My neighbor has St.
Augustine. Her grass is creeping into my yard, but my Bermuda is not
creeping into hers. Same degree of maturity & sun too.


"Jim Marrs" wrote in message
...
Burmuda is probably best done with seed. It will germinate quickly and
provide nice coverage in 3-4 months if well watered to start it out. I

agree
with Roy on the advantages of Bermuda. To me, the bad part about Bermuda

is
that it is very invasive and if you plan garden beds near the Bermuda you
will have to wage an never ending battle to keep it out.

Have Fun

Jim

"RoyDMercer" wrote in message
...
Gene,

4" of top soil will be plenty for turf. Most places which sell sod are
going to sell bermuda sod. Both Bermuda and St Augustine are warm

season
grasses which will do well in full hot sun. There are advantages and
disadvantages to each type. Some people like the look of one or the

other.

Here is why I prefer Bermuda over St Augustine:
Lower water needs
Will tollerate traffic better
You can use the types of selective herbicides which kill "grassy" type

weeds

Bermuda needs lots of high nitrogen fertilizer. Keep it well fertilized

and
adequately watered and you'll have the lawn you're looking for.


"GeneS" wrote in message
...
We have a spot on a very high & rocky hill. There is a
plateau of about 5000SqFt. that we plan to place about 4"
of top soil & level. We will install an automatic sprinkler
system, so water is not a factor. It will get a lot of sunshine.
We want the 5000' area to end up a well manicured lawn.
There is a rock ledge about 16" under the existing rocky top soil.

QUESTIONS:
1. Which grass would be best. We are looking at St. Augustine
sod, or a heavy planting of Bermuda seed.
2. If we go with Bermuda, is there a place in the Austin area that

sells
Bermuda "sod".

THANKS:-)

Gene









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Chuck
 
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Default Bermuda seed or sod?

To me, St. Augustine is an ugly ryegrass/crabgrass type. I love Bermuda,
it's soft and fine and looks great.


"Katra" wrote in message
...
Indeed... I've observed the same thing,
and quite frankly, the St. Augustine is FAR prettier than the Bermuda!

I made a bad judgement in planting Bermuda. I plan to rectify that this
spring by getting some St. Augustine sod from Lowe's. :-P

The Bermuda has been a serious PITA around my raised garden beds!

I may have to Round Up the lot. It's expensive Sh-- too.

K.


In article ,
"Chuck" wrote:

The invasiveness issue is interesting. I have Bermuda. My neighbor has

St.
Augustine. Her grass is creeping into my yard, but my Bermuda is not
creeping into hers. Same degree of maturity & sun too.


"Jim Marrs" wrote in message
...
Burmuda is probably best done with seed. It will germinate quickly

and
provide nice coverage in 3-4 months if well watered to start it out. I

agree
with Roy on the advantages of Bermuda. To me, the bad part about

Bermuda
is
that it is very invasive and if you plan garden beds near the Bermuda

you
will have to wage an never ending battle to keep it out.

Have Fun

Jim

"RoyDMercer" wrote in message
...
Gene,

4" of top soil will be plenty for turf. Most places which sell sod

are
going to sell bermuda sod. Both Bermuda and St Augustine are warm

season
grasses which will do well in full hot sun. There are advantages

and
disadvantages to each type. Some people like the look of one or the
other.

Here is why I prefer Bermuda over St Augustine:
Lower water needs
Will tollerate traffic better
You can use the types of selective herbicides which kill "grassy"

type
weeds

Bermuda needs lots of high nitrogen fertilizer. Keep it well

fertilized
and
adequately watered and you'll have the lawn you're looking for.


"GeneS" wrote in message
...
We have a spot on a very high & rocky hill. There is a
plateau of about 5000SqFt. that we plan to place about 4"
of top soil & level. We will install an automatic sprinkler
system, so water is not a factor. It will get a lot of sunshine.
We want the 5000' area to end up a well manicured lawn.
There is a rock ledge about 16" under the existing rocky top soil.

QUESTIONS:
1. Which grass would be best. We are looking at St. Augustine
sod, or a heavy planting of Bermuda seed.
2. If we go with Bermuda, is there a place in the Austin area that

sells
Bermuda "sod".

THANKS:-)

Gene









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Sprout the Mung Bean to reply...

"There are many intelligent species in the universe, and they are all

owned by cats! -- Asimov

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Old 06-04-2004, 09:31 PM
Chuck
 
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Default Bermuda seed or sod?

To me, St. Augustine is an ugly ryegrass/crabgrass type. I love Bermuda,
it's soft and fine and looks great.


"Katra" wrote in message
...
Indeed... I've observed the same thing,
and quite frankly, the St. Augustine is FAR prettier than the Bermuda!

I made a bad judgement in planting Bermuda. I plan to rectify that this
spring by getting some St. Augustine sod from Lowe's. :-P

The Bermuda has been a serious PITA around my raised garden beds!

I may have to Round Up the lot. It's expensive Sh-- too.

K.


In article ,
"Chuck" wrote:

The invasiveness issue is interesting. I have Bermuda. My neighbor has

St.
Augustine. Her grass is creeping into my yard, but my Bermuda is not
creeping into hers. Same degree of maturity & sun too.


"Jim Marrs" wrote in message
...
Burmuda is probably best done with seed. It will germinate quickly

and
provide nice coverage in 3-4 months if well watered to start it out. I

agree
with Roy on the advantages of Bermuda. To me, the bad part about

Bermuda
is
that it is very invasive and if you plan garden beds near the Bermuda

you
will have to wage an never ending battle to keep it out.

Have Fun

Jim

"RoyDMercer" wrote in message
...
Gene,

4" of top soil will be plenty for turf. Most places which sell sod

are
going to sell bermuda sod. Both Bermuda and St Augustine are warm

season
grasses which will do well in full hot sun. There are advantages

and
disadvantages to each type. Some people like the look of one or the
other.

Here is why I prefer Bermuda over St Augustine:
Lower water needs
Will tollerate traffic better
You can use the types of selective herbicides which kill "grassy"

type
weeds

Bermuda needs lots of high nitrogen fertilizer. Keep it well

fertilized
and
adequately watered and you'll have the lawn you're looking for.


"GeneS" wrote in message
...
We have a spot on a very high & rocky hill. There is a
plateau of about 5000SqFt. that we plan to place about 4"
of top soil & level. We will install an automatic sprinkler
system, so water is not a factor. It will get a lot of sunshine.
We want the 5000' area to end up a well manicured lawn.
There is a rock ledge about 16" under the existing rocky top soil.

QUESTIONS:
1. Which grass would be best. We are looking at St. Augustine
sod, or a heavy planting of Bermuda seed.
2. If we go with Bermuda, is there a place in the Austin area that

sells
Bermuda "sod".

THANKS:-)

Gene









--
Sprout the Mung Bean to reply...

"There are many intelligent species in the universe, and they are all

owned by cats! -- Asimov

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Katra
 
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Default Bermuda seed or sod?

You can have mine. ;-)
It's thin, invasive, and grows so fast it never makes any kind of lawn
for me. :-P Patchy too and won't hold up to foot traffic. Runners from
hell that actuall CLIMB into my raised beds!

The st. augustine next door is thick and even, so much prettier!
And it's easier to keep out of the garden beds.


In article ,
"Chuck" wrote:

To me, St. Augustine is an ugly ryegrass/crabgrass type. I love Bermuda,
it's soft and fine and looks great.


"Katra" wrote in message
...
Indeed... I've observed the same thing,
and quite frankly, the St. Augustine is FAR prettier than the Bermuda!

I made a bad judgement in planting Bermuda. I plan to rectify that this
spring by getting some St. Augustine sod from Lowe's. :-P

The Bermuda has been a serious PITA around my raised garden beds!

I may have to Round Up the lot. It's expensive Sh-- too.

K.


In article ,
"Chuck" wrote:

The invasiveness issue is interesting. I have Bermuda. My neighbor has

St.
Augustine. Her grass is creeping into my yard, but my Bermuda is not
creeping into hers. Same degree of maturity & sun too.


"Jim Marrs" wrote in message
...
Burmuda is probably best done with seed. It will germinate quickly

and
provide nice coverage in 3-4 months if well watered to start it out. I
agree
with Roy on the advantages of Bermuda. To me, the bad part about

Bermuda
is
that it is very invasive and if you plan garden beds near the Bermuda

you
will have to wage an never ending battle to keep it out.

Have Fun

Jim

"RoyDMercer" wrote in message
...
Gene,

4" of top soil will be plenty for turf. Most places which sell sod

are
going to sell bermuda sod. Both Bermuda and St Augustine are warm
season
grasses which will do well in full hot sun. There are advantages

and
disadvantages to each type. Some people like the look of one or the
other.

Here is why I prefer Bermuda over St Augustine:
Lower water needs
Will tollerate traffic better
You can use the types of selective herbicides which kill "grassy"

type
weeds

Bermuda needs lots of high nitrogen fertilizer. Keep it well

fertilized
and
adequately watered and you'll have the lawn you're looking for.


"GeneS" wrote in message
...
We have a spot on a very high & rocky hill. There is a
plateau of about 5000SqFt. that we plan to place about 4"
of top soil & level. We will install an automatic sprinkler
system, so water is not a factor. It will get a lot of sunshine.
We want the 5000' area to end up a well manicured lawn.
There is a rock ledge about 16" under the existing rocky top soil.

QUESTIONS:
1. Which grass would be best. We are looking at St. Augustine
sod, or a heavy planting of Bermuda seed.
2. If we go with Bermuda, is there a place in the Austin area that
sells
Bermuda "sod".

THANKS:-)

Gene









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atra



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Katra
 
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Default Bermuda seed or sod?

You can have mine. ;-)
It's thin, invasive, and grows so fast it never makes any kind of lawn
for me. :-P Patchy too and won't hold up to foot traffic. Runners from
hell that actuall CLIMB into my raised beds!

The st. augustine next door is thick and even, so much prettier!
And it's easier to keep out of the garden beds.


In article ,
"Chuck" wrote:

To me, St. Augustine is an ugly ryegrass/crabgrass type. I love Bermuda,
it's soft and fine and looks great.


"Katra" wrote in message
...
Indeed... I've observed the same thing,
and quite frankly, the St. Augustine is FAR prettier than the Bermuda!

I made a bad judgement in planting Bermuda. I plan to rectify that this
spring by getting some St. Augustine sod from Lowe's. :-P

The Bermuda has been a serious PITA around my raised garden beds!

I may have to Round Up the lot. It's expensive Sh-- too.

K.


In article ,
"Chuck" wrote:

The invasiveness issue is interesting. I have Bermuda. My neighbor has

St.
Augustine. Her grass is creeping into my yard, but my Bermuda is not
creeping into hers. Same degree of maturity & sun too.


"Jim Marrs" wrote in message
...
Burmuda is probably best done with seed. It will germinate quickly

and
provide nice coverage in 3-4 months if well watered to start it out. I
agree
with Roy on the advantages of Bermuda. To me, the bad part about

Bermuda
is
that it is very invasive and if you plan garden beds near the Bermuda

you
will have to wage an never ending battle to keep it out.

Have Fun

Jim

"RoyDMercer" wrote in message
...
Gene,

4" of top soil will be plenty for turf. Most places which sell sod

are
going to sell bermuda sod. Both Bermuda and St Augustine are warm
season
grasses which will do well in full hot sun. There are advantages

and
disadvantages to each type. Some people like the look of one or the
other.

Here is why I prefer Bermuda over St Augustine:
Lower water needs
Will tollerate traffic better
You can use the types of selective herbicides which kill "grassy"

type
weeds

Bermuda needs lots of high nitrogen fertilizer. Keep it well

fertilized
and
adequately watered and you'll have the lawn you're looking for.


"GeneS" wrote in message
...
We have a spot on a very high & rocky hill. There is a
plateau of about 5000SqFt. that we plan to place about 4"
of top soil & level. We will install an automatic sprinkler
system, so water is not a factor. It will get a lot of sunshine.
We want the 5000' area to end up a well manicured lawn.
There is a rock ledge about 16" under the existing rocky top soil.

QUESTIONS:
1. Which grass would be best. We are looking at St. Augustine
sod, or a heavy planting of Bermuda seed.
2. If we go with Bermuda, is there a place in the Austin area that
sells
Bermuda "sod".

THANKS:-)

Gene









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Old 06-04-2004, 09:31 PM
Chuck
 
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Default Bermuda seed or sod?

Bermuda is more resistant to foot traffic than SA. That's why we use it on
golf courses.



"Katra" wrote in message
...
You can have mine. ;-)
It's thin, invasive, and grows so fast it never makes any kind of lawn
for me. :-P Patchy too and won't hold up to foot traffic. Runners from
hell that actuall CLIMB into my raised beds!

The st. augustine next door is thick and even, so much prettier!
And it's easier to keep out of the garden beds.


In article ,
"Chuck" wrote:

To me, St. Augustine is an ugly ryegrass/crabgrass type. I love Bermuda,
it's soft and fine and looks great.


"Katra" wrote in message
...
Indeed... I've observed the same thing,
and quite frankly, the St. Augustine is FAR prettier than the Bermuda!

I made a bad judgement in planting Bermuda. I plan to rectify that

this
spring by getting some St. Augustine sod from Lowe's. :-P

The Bermuda has been a serious PITA around my raised garden beds!

I may have to Round Up the lot. It's expensive Sh-- too.

K.


In article

,
"Chuck" wrote:

The invasiveness issue is interesting. I have Bermuda. My neighbor

has
St.
Augustine. Her grass is creeping into my yard, but my Bermuda is not
creeping into hers. Same degree of maturity & sun too.


"Jim Marrs" wrote in message
...
Burmuda is probably best done with seed. It will germinate

quickly
and
provide nice coverage in 3-4 months if well watered to start it

out. I
agree
with Roy on the advantages of Bermuda. To me, the bad part about

Bermuda
is
that it is very invasive and if you plan garden beds near the

Bermuda
you
will have to wage an never ending battle to keep it out.

Have Fun

Jim

"RoyDMercer" wrote in message
...
Gene,

4" of top soil will be plenty for turf. Most places which sell

sod
are
going to sell bermuda sod. Both Bermuda and St Augustine are

warm
season
grasses which will do well in full hot sun. There are

advantages
and
disadvantages to each type. Some people like the look of one or

the
other.

Here is why I prefer Bermuda over St Augustine:
Lower water needs
Will tollerate traffic better
You can use the types of selective herbicides which kill

"grassy"
type
weeds

Bermuda needs lots of high nitrogen fertilizer. Keep it well

fertilized
and
adequately watered and you'll have the lawn you're looking for.


"GeneS" wrote in message
...
We have a spot on a very high & rocky hill. There is a
plateau of about 5000SqFt. that we plan to place about 4"
of top soil & level. We will install an automatic sprinkler
system, so water is not a factor. It will get a lot of

sunshine.
We want the 5000' area to end up a well manicured lawn.
There is a rock ledge about 16" under the existing rocky top

soil.

QUESTIONS:
1. Which grass would be best. We are looking at St. Augustine
sod, or a heavy planting of Bermuda seed.
2. If we go with Bermuda, is there a place in the Austin area

that
sells
Bermuda "sod".

THANKS:-)

Gene









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Old 06-04-2004, 09:31 PM
Chuck
 
Posts: n/a
Default Bermuda seed or sod?

Bermuda is more resistant to foot traffic than SA. That's why we use it on
golf courses.



"Katra" wrote in message
...
You can have mine. ;-)
It's thin, invasive, and grows so fast it never makes any kind of lawn
for me. :-P Patchy too and won't hold up to foot traffic. Runners from
hell that actuall CLIMB into my raised beds!

The st. augustine next door is thick and even, so much prettier!
And it's easier to keep out of the garden beds.


In article ,
"Chuck" wrote:

To me, St. Augustine is an ugly ryegrass/crabgrass type. I love Bermuda,
it's soft and fine and looks great.


"Katra" wrote in message
...
Indeed... I've observed the same thing,
and quite frankly, the St. Augustine is FAR prettier than the Bermuda!

I made a bad judgement in planting Bermuda. I plan to rectify that

this
spring by getting some St. Augustine sod from Lowe's. :-P

The Bermuda has been a serious PITA around my raised garden beds!

I may have to Round Up the lot. It's expensive Sh-- too.

K.


In article

,
"Chuck" wrote:

The invasiveness issue is interesting. I have Bermuda. My neighbor

has
St.
Augustine. Her grass is creeping into my yard, but my Bermuda is not
creeping into hers. Same degree of maturity & sun too.


"Jim Marrs" wrote in message
...
Burmuda is probably best done with seed. It will germinate

quickly
and
provide nice coverage in 3-4 months if well watered to start it

out. I
agree
with Roy on the advantages of Bermuda. To me, the bad part about

Bermuda
is
that it is very invasive and if you plan garden beds near the

Bermuda
you
will have to wage an never ending battle to keep it out.

Have Fun

Jim

"RoyDMercer" wrote in message
...
Gene,

4" of top soil will be plenty for turf. Most places which sell

sod
are
going to sell bermuda sod. Both Bermuda and St Augustine are

warm
season
grasses which will do well in full hot sun. There are

advantages
and
disadvantages to each type. Some people like the look of one or

the
other.

Here is why I prefer Bermuda over St Augustine:
Lower water needs
Will tollerate traffic better
You can use the types of selective herbicides which kill

"grassy"
type
weeds

Bermuda needs lots of high nitrogen fertilizer. Keep it well

fertilized
and
adequately watered and you'll have the lawn you're looking for.


"GeneS" wrote in message
...
We have a spot on a very high & rocky hill. There is a
plateau of about 5000SqFt. that we plan to place about 4"
of top soil & level. We will install an automatic sprinkler
system, so water is not a factor. It will get a lot of

sunshine.
We want the 5000' area to end up a well manicured lawn.
There is a rock ledge about 16" under the existing rocky top

soil.

QUESTIONS:
1. Which grass would be best. We are looking at St. Augustine
sod, or a heavy planting of Bermuda seed.
2. If we go with Bermuda, is there a place in the Austin area

that
sells
Bermuda "sod".

THANKS:-)

Gene









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owned by cats! -- Asimov

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atra



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