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Old 26-07-2005, 05:37 PM
Harold Walker
 
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" I suggest you either see for yourself, or take your views from someone
who has been here for more than 'a couple of weeks'.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Suspect I saw more of the UK in a couple of weeks than most English folk see
in a year....from Lancahsire to Yorkshire to Bristol way and point in
between and then bcak over to the east coastal area before taking in the
south shore....H



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Old 26-07-2005, 05:55 PM
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In article , Harold Walker
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" I suggest you either see for yourself, or take your views from someone
who has been here for more than 'a couple of weeks'.


Suspect I saw more of the UK in a couple of weeks than most English folk see
in a year....from Lancahsire to Yorkshire to Bristol way and point in
between and then bcak over to the east coastal area before taking in the
south shore....H

I think you are confusing 'travelling a long way' with 'seeing a great
deal'.



--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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Old 26-07-2005, 06:33 PM
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"Kay" wrote in message
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In article , Harold Walker
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" I suggest you either see for yourself, or take your views from someone
who has been here for more than 'a couple of weeks'.


Suspect I saw more of the UK in a couple of weeks than most English folk
see
in a year....from Lancahsire to Yorkshire to Bristol way and point in
between and then bcak over to the east coastal area before taking in the
south shore....H

I think you are confusing 'travelling a long way' with 'seeing a great
deal'.

Kay...do not forget that I have been to England every two years since 1951
so my two weeks this year just convinces me a little more re some
things.....I confuse not.....if you go back to my first post you will see
I was referring to that which I saw along the railroad tracks and a couple
of allotments and not England from shore to shore....others introduced
subjects and I responded...be that as it may Kay....I still maintain the
UK aint what it used to be....some, without a doubt a distinct improvement
over the past and some just the opposite....when I see some of the
renovations in York I wish that many places over here would see the same
improvements.....we have slums galore that had they been in England they
would have been torn down long ago.....those improvements I admire but not
the social system you have...how true it is I know not but someone told me
that some of the streets louts on assistance even get an allowance for the
dog with some even borrowing a dog to get extra lolly...now that may just
be gossip for an American ear.....even tho y'all have complaints about
your medical system it is much better than having none at all as is the
case with over 40 million over here.....I hear of complaints re your
railroad system....it may not be as good as it once was but it is one
helluva sight better than ours....pros and cons in life....take your
pick..H

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Old 26-07-2005, 09:06 PM
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In article , Harold Walker
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"Kay" wrote in message
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In article , Harold Walker
writes

" I suggest you either see for yourself, or take your views from someone
who has been here for more than 'a couple of weeks'.

Suspect I saw more of the UK in a couple of weeks than most English folk
see
in a year....from Lancahsire to Yorkshire to Bristol way and point in
between and then bcak over to the east coastal area before taking in the
south shore....H

I think you are confusing 'travelling a long way' with 'seeing a great
deal'.

Kay...do not forget that I have been to England every two years since 1951


OK, I apologise.
In that case, I just think you are wrong ;-)


--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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Old 26-07-2005, 09:26 PM
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OK, I apologise.
In that case, I just think you are wrong ;-)me think not...also agreed
with by a few I met over there...aint like it used to be and will never be
the same.....you and I have lived during the better years of the UK...the
same applies to the usa...from one stubborn Yorkshireman to a stubborn
Yorkshirewoman.


--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"





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Old 26-07-2005, 10:04 PM
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Harold Walker wrote:
OK, I apologise.
In that case, I just think you are wrong ;-)me think not...also
agreed with by a few I met over there...aint like it used to be

and
will never be the same.....you and I have lived during the better
years of the UK...the same applies to the usa...from one stubborn
Yorkshireman to a stubborn Yorkshirewoman.


(You've upset the colour-coding in my QuoteFix, but not to worry.)

You needn't worry about people getting extra dole for having a dog:
nice urban myth, though. The Daily Mail might even give you money for
it!

Mike (not a Yorkie, but I can see the attraction sometimes: I very
much admire my b-i-l and Fred Trueman, frixample. Gritty booggers.
Oh, forgot Lesley Garrett -- when she was down at one stage, her
mother sent her some Yorkshire grit in an envelope).


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Old 27-07-2005, 01:41 PM
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OK, I apologise.
In that case, I just think you are wrong ;-)me think not...also agreed
with by a few I met over there...aint like it used to be and will never

be
the same.....you and I have lived during the better years of the

UK...the
same applies to the usa...from one stubborn Yorkshireman to a stubborn
Yorkshirewoman.



Isn't it an almost universal truth that every generation tends to wax on
about the 'good old days' and opine that 'things ain't what they used to
be'? Change is inevitable, so it's true that things will not be what they
used to be, but not necessarily that the net change has been for the worse
(although I still think they were wrong to do away with steam trains,
trolley buses, DDT and gas lamps, of course).


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Old 27-07-2005, 10:31 PM
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Kay wrote


OK, I apologise.
In that case, I just think you are wrong ;-)


me think not...also agreed
with by a few I met over there...aint like it used to be and will
never be
the same..


I hope they won't. Back in the good old days in 1950's industrial
Lancashire winters were blighted with thick filthy smog. Everyone I knew
had chilblains on their hands and feet because houses were so cold. In
Glasgow, malnutrition and rickets deformed many people for life and poor
children still went barefoot in the street in midwinter.

Janet
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Old 26-07-2005, 09:37 PM
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OK, I apologise.
In that case, I just think you are wrong ;-)


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Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

p.s. Did your Bayberry seeds ever germinate......I now have at least fifty
growing well...H


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Old 28-07-2005, 12:21 PM
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OK, I apologise.
In that case, I just think you are wrong ;-)


p.s. Did your Bayberry seeds ever germinate......I now have at least fifty
growing well...H


The answer to that is 'no' .... but I can't recall them at all now - I'm
wondering whether they arrived? - did I ever thank you for them?

--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"



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Old 26-07-2005, 07:12 PM
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Harold Walker wrote:
" I suggest you either see for yourself, or take your views from
someone
who has been here for more than 'a couple of weeks'.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the

river"

Suspect I saw more of the UK in a couple of weeks than most English
folk see in a year....from Lancahsire to Yorkshire to Bristol way

and
point in between and then bcak over to the east coastal area

before
taking in the south shore....H


I wonder if there's truth in the observation that the gardens one
sees from trains and roads aren't what they were. Somebody mentioned
upthread the effect the railway has on the desirability of a house:
perhaps ones beside the lines are now more likely to be in multiple
rented occupancy. If true, this would explain neglect of the garden.
In another development of recent decades, many houses beside town
streets have lost their front gardens in favour of off-street
parking.

Otherwise, Harold's missed some treats: as Kay says, people who do
garden are doing it as least as well as ever, and often with more
originality. (And often with more originality than taste, but that's
none of my business!) So next time you're over, Harold, let us know,
and maybe some of us could give you a steer.

Bleep bleep! Pun alert red!
....and not a bum steer, either. Bum, bum!
Pun alert back to amber unless Rusty's around.

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Mike.


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Otherwise, Harold's missed some treats: //////Harold may have missed some
treats but overdosed on many others......I did not spend all of my time on
the UK trains....H Mike.




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Old 26-07-2005, 07:48 PM
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Otherwise, Harold's missed some treats: as Kay says, people who do
garden are doing it as least as well as ever, and often with more
originality. (And often with more originality than taste, but that's
none of my business!) So next time you're over, Harold, let us know,
and maybe some of us could give you a steer.


Yeah - "Right hand down a bit, No 1!"

Bleep bleep! Pun alert red!
....and not a bum steer, either. Bum, bum!
Pun alert back to amber unless Rusty's around.


No, I'm sort-of tall and lanky innit.

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Old 26-07-2005, 09:32 PM
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Harold Walker wrote:

" I suggest you either see for yourself, or take your views from someone
who has been here for more than 'a couple of weeks'.


Suspect I saw more of the UK in a couple of weeks than most English folk see
in a year....from Lancahsire to Yorkshire to Bristol way and point in
between and then bcak over to the east coastal area before taking in the
south shore....H


You are completely clueless. Just because Americans have a parochial
myopic attitude of "out of state out of mind" doesn't mean that we do.

You saw the derelict wasteland band in close proximity to railway lines.
There are planty of nice parts of the UK. Recently municipal parks have
finally made a comeback after being annihilated by Thatcher along with
the railways which are still bordering on unserviceable.

Nostalgia just isn't what it used to be.

Regards,
Martin Brown
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You are completely clueless. Just because Americans have a parochial
myopic attitude of "out of state out of mind" doesn't mean that we do.



My passport says I am an Englishman




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