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how to deal with this ?
How to deal with this ? My aunt has a house in California... She has had the home over 18 years now. There are 2 trees whose roots are lifting the concrete pretty high. She has been told that she needs to get rid of the trees and that there is a "special something" that needs to be applied on the cut trunk ....or something... Would anyone know what needs to be applied to the cut trunk to permanently kill the trees? Can anyone suggest a better way to get rid of these 2 trees ? What do people normally do when the roots of a tree lift the concrete ? How does one rectify such a Thank you all in advance for your input, Rita |
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What do people normally do when the roots of a tree lift the concrete ? How does one rectify such a Thank you all in advance for your input, Rita Not only have the trees cut down but have the stumps ground out to 12 inches or so...usually do |
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Harold Walker wrote:
What do people normally do when the roots of a tree lift the concrete ? How does one rectify such a Thank you all in advance for your input, Rita Not only have the trees cut down but have the stumps ground out to 12 inches or so...usually do Harold, how do you do that? I use the invaluable Quotefix with OE, and your messages often appear in the same colour, and with the same marks as the one you're replying to. I've tried to do it myself, just for info, but I can't. It's your business, but reading would be a lot easier this end if it didn't happen -- somebody the other day even thought you hadn't sent a message at all, I think because of it. ....ah, I've worked it out. It's a Gg thing, right? ...But I could only get it to happen if I started a reply before the end of the quoted text, which you don't seem to have done above. -- Mike. |
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Harold, how do you do that? I use the invaluable Quotefix with OE, and your messages often appear in the same colour, and with the same marks as the one you're replying to. I've tried to do it myself, just for info, but I can't. It's your business, but reading would be a lot easier this end if it didn't happen -- somebody the other day even thought you hadn't sent a message at all, I think because of it. ...ah, I've worked it out. It's a Gg thing, right? ...But I could only get it to happen if I started a reply before the end of the quoted text, which you don't seem to have done above. -- Mike. Must admit Mike I just type in a message and you get what I type...do not know what I am doing that would make it tough to read...H |
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Harold Walker wrote:
Harold, how do you do that? I use the invaluable Quotefix with OE, and your messages often appear in the same colour, and with the same marks as the one you're replying to. I've tried to do it myself, just for info, but I can't. It's your business, but reading would be a lot easier this end if it didn't happen -- somebody the other day even thought you hadn't sent a message at all, I think because of it. ...ah, I've worked it out. It's a Gg thing, right? ...But I could only get it to happen if I started a reply before the end of the quoted text, which you don't seem to have done above. -- Mike. Must admit Mike I just type in a message and you get what I type...do not know what I am doing that would make it tough to read...H OK, so how does this appear on your screen? What I've got is against the message of mine you replied to, _and_ against your reply. Normally, the further back in the thread a message was sent, the more things it has to the left: every time there's a reply, another gets added. They are both displayed in the same colour, while QuoteFix puts separate messages in different colours. Your message also says "Harold Walker wrote" what was actually written by me. It doesn't happen to confuse me, as I know what I said; but it could throw anybody else. Anybody out there know what's happening? -- Mike. |
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Mike Lyle wrote:
Harold Walker wrote: Harold, how do you do that? I use the invaluable Quotefix with OE, and your messages often appear in the same colour, and with the same marks as the one you're replying to. I've tried to do it myself, just for info, but I can't. It's your business, but reading would be a lot easier this end if it didn't happen -- somebody the other day even thought you hadn't sent a message at all, I think because of it. ...ah, I've worked it out. It's a Gg thing, right? ...But I could only get it to happen if I started a reply before the end of the quoted text, which you don't seem to have done above. -- Mike. Must admit Mike I just type in a message and you get what I type...do not know what I am doing that would make it tough to read...H OK, so how does this appear on your screen? What I've got is against the message of mine you replied to, _and_ against your reply. Normally, the further back in the thread a message was sent, the more things it has to the left: every time there's a reply, another gets added. They are both displayed in the same colour, while QuoteFix puts separate messages in different colours. Your message also says "Harold Walker wrote" what was actually written by me. It doesn't happen to confuse me, as I know what I said; but it could throw anybody else. Anybody out there know what's happening? Dash! Sorry: I forgot that putting those carets-on-their-sides in my message would trigger the quotation signals. Sorry. But I hope readers can still see what I meant. -- Mike. |
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 12:43:25 -0400, "Harold Walker"
wrote: Harold, how do you do that? I use the invaluable Quotefix with OE, and your messages often appear in the same colour, and with the same marks as the one you're replying to. I've tried to do it myself, just for info, but I can't. It's your business, but reading would be a lot easier this end if it didn't happen -- somebody the other day even thought you hadn't sent a message at all, I think because of it. ...ah, I've worked it out. It's a Gg thing, right? ...But I could only get it to happen if I started a reply before the end of the quoted text, which you don't seem to have done above. -- Mike. Must admit Mike I just type in a message and you get what I type...do not know what I am doing that would make it tough to read...H What had me curious about Harry's messages was that his replies were in blue, the same colour as the quoted message, whereas everyone else's responses come out in black. That's why it appeared that H had not added any comment of his own to a couple of posts. I still don't understand but as long as Mike and Harry do, all is OK! I'm using Forte Agent, and have never used any other. Pam in Bristol |
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"Pam Moore" wrote in message ... On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 12:43:25 -0400, "Harold Walker" wrote: What had me curious about Harry's messages was that his replies were in blue, the same colour as the quoted message, whereas everyone else's responses come out in black. That's why it appeared that H had not added any comment of his own to a couple of posts. I still don't understand but as long as Mike and Harry do, all is OK! I'm using Forte Agent, and have never used any other. Pam in Bristol Be durned if I understand either.H |
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from "Harold Walker" contains these words: Harold, how do you do that? I use the invaluable Quotefix with OE, and your messages often appear in the same colour, and with the same marks as the one you're replying to. I've tried to do it myself, just for info, but I can't. It's your business, but reading would be a lot easier this end if it didn't happen %%% somebody the other day even thought you hadn't sent a message at all, I think because of it. ...ah, I've worked it out. It's a Gg thing, right? ...But I could only get it to happen if I started a reply before the end of the quoted text, which you don't seem to have done above. %%% Mike. Must admit Mike I just type in a message and you get what I type...do not know what I am doing that would make it tough to read...H Well, that, for a start. You've left in the complete sig, separator and all (which your newsreader should strip out if it's half a newsreader). If I were to just hit 'follow-up' to reply to one of these posts, everything you'd added would disappear, being below the sig, so every nearly post of yours I have to edit to reply to. And you've typed your message (God only knows how) on reply chevrons so it appears as follows: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ...ah, I've worked it out. It's a Gg thing, right? ...But I could only get it to happen if I started a reply before the end of the quoted text, which you don't seem to have done above. %%% Mike. Must admit Mike I just type in a message and you get what I type...do not know what I am doing that would make it tough to read...H %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Some time ago I mentioned that you were sending messages with no added content - I was wrong - you send the content but it *LOOKS* as if there is only quoted text, so they get deleted unread. Also, your messages don't have an attribution, so it's difficult to know to whom you are replying. -- Rusty Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: I assume you mean the concrete is the yard or driveway, not the foundations of the house. If it is, I'd just leave it to settle back as the years go by: no serious harm will have been done (unless drains are involved), and the concrete can be patched once it's levelled out. I think that depends on the species of tree and the soil structure and local climate. Trees with a full head of foliage suck up a huge amount of ground water, which can shrink the soil structure beneath building foundations and causing them to settle unevenly and often crack. Then if the tree is felled, the ground holds more water and expands again, pushing up/apart the cracked foundation (with even more stress on the building). So in some circumstances it can be better to dismantle a tree close to a building, gradually over a period of time, so that there isn't a sudden change in the soil-structure. You really need some specialist advice on the kind of soil, kind of tree and local conditions, before rushing into a course of action that might worsen any damage already done. Janet |
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Janet Baraclough wrote:
The message from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: I assume you mean the concrete is the yard or driveway, not the foundations of the house. If it is, I'd just leave it to settle back as the years go by: no serious harm will have been done (unless drains are involved), and the concrete can be patched once it's levelled out. I think that depends on the species of tree and the soil structure and local climate. Trees with a full head of foliage suck up a huge amount of ground water, which can shrink the soil structure beneath building foundations and causing them to settle unevenly and often crack. Then if the tree is felled, the ground holds more water and expands again, pushing up/apart the cracked foundation (with even more stress on the building). So in some circumstances it can be better to dismantle a tree close to a building, gradually over a period of time, so that there isn't a sudden change in the soil-structure. You really need some specialist advice on the kind of soil, kind of tree and local conditions, before rushing into a course of action that might worsen any damage already done. Janet I did say (see above) "I assume you mean the concrete is the yard or driveway, not the foundations of the house", dash it! We were told of some visible damage to concrete, not damage to the house. I hope the OP would go straight to a structural surveyor, not liddle ole us, if the house was showing signs of distress. That said, if it's one of those Australian or American wooden houses on concrete footings, I still wouldn't worry too much unless I were planning to sell it. In the US, a lot of the time you may not get much more than the site value anyway -- though even there that can be substantial if you're in the right place. -- Mike. |
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If it were mine, I would make a cut that goes all the way through the bark
with a chain saw and do it in a complete circle around the tree. Once the bark has been cut the sap cannot get to the tree and it will die. You may have to remove the concrete, then the roots, and put down new concrete. It all depends on how high it has pushed up. It will take years for the root to rot enough for the existing concrete to settle back down. That happened to my sidewalk once, and I had to take out the chunk of concrete, level out the ground, and replace it. As long as there was a "lip" sticking up, someone could fall and get hurt. Dwayne wrote in message oups.com... How to deal with this ? My aunt has a house in California... She has had the home over 18 years now. There are 2 trees whose roots are lifting the concrete pretty high. She has been told that she needs to get rid of the trees and that there is a "special something" that needs to be applied on the cut trunk ...or something... Would anyone know what needs to be applied to the cut trunk to permanently kill the trees? Can anyone suggest a better way to get rid of these 2 trees ? What do people normally do when the roots of a tree lift the concrete ? How does one rectify such a Thank you all in advance for your input, Rita |
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