Old washing machine fire - cheapo garden lights ............

Nice :~))

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Jenny
(Rotterdam the Netherlands)
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:14:21 +0200, "JennyC"
wrote:

Old washing machine fire - cheapo garden lights ............

Nice :~))

Well lots of the old Geoff Hamilton episodes are being repeated on
uktvstylegardens (satellite channel) and his style is somewhat different
to the current presenters. It is interesting to note the change in
style and emphasis in GW over the years - particularly as separate
years' programmes are running side by side.

You can also see the same old things being commented on year after year!
Still it helps drum the information in the heads of us newbie gardeners.
--
Paul C

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:14:21 +0200, "JennyC"
wrote:

Old washing machine fire - cheapo garden lights ............

Nice :~))

Well lots of the old Geoff Hamilton episodes are being repeated on
uktvstylegardens (satellite channel) and his style is somewhat different
to the current presenters.

OH - wish I could recieve that!
He was a lovely bloke and much as I love Monty, Geoff was in a class all of his
own :~)

It is interesting to note the change in
style and emphasis in GW over the years - particularly as separate
years' programmes are running side by side.

What do you find the biggest difference?
I t seems to me that fashion comes into it much more than in the 'old days'

You can also see the same old things being commented on year after year!
Still it helps drum the information in the heads of us newbie gardeners.
Paul C

Jenny

On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 12:22:20 +0200, "JennyC"
wrote:


"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:14:21 +0200, "JennyC"
wrote:

Old washing machine fire - cheapo garden lights ............

Nice :~))

Well lots of the old Geoff Hamilton episodes are being repeated on
uktvstylegardens (satellite channel) and his style is somewhat different
to the current presenters.

OH - wish I could recieve that!

You need someone to set up a rogue Sky account and fix up a satellite
dish for you.

It is interesting to note the change in
style and emphasis in GW over the years - particularly as separate
years' programmes are running side by side.

What do you find the biggest difference?
It seems to me that fashion comes into it much more than in the 'old days'

I'm only looking at it through inexperienced eyes but the contrast for
me is that the older programmes have more emphasis on gardens, plants
and a minimal amount of "get this at the garden centre" rather than
today where it is less about plants and horticultural technique and more
about projects for the weekend. As I lack inspiration of my own I am
always keen to see what other people do in their gardens

Sarah Raven strikes me as someone who is genuinely keen on plants and is
happy to delve around in the soil. Although even with her there is a
marked contrast from what looks like her very first appearance on GW and
how she is now. Even she is much more "commercial" with canny
references to "her Perch Hill garden".

While the "all for free" garden being developed in GW by Carol Klein is
a great idea it's a waste of time for someone like me as I don't have
access to the bountiful resources of Berryfields and previous season's
cast offs ;-) The annual border idea from the RHS chap at Harlow Carr
was very good though. I might try that in the part of my shared garden
that isn't mine!
--
Paul C

"Paul Corfield"
"JennyC"
It is interesting to note the change in
style and emphasis in GW over the years - particularly as separate
years' programmes are running side by side.

What do you find the biggest difference?
It seems to me that fashion comes into it much more than in the 'old days'

I'm only looking at it through inexperienced eyes but the contrast for
me is that the older programmes have more emphasis on gardens, plants
and a minimal amount of "get this at the garden centre" rather than
today where it is less about plants and horticultural technique and more
about projects for the weekend. As I lack inspiration of my own I am
always keen to see what other people do in their gardens

maybe beacause there were not the 'whole day experience' garden centres back in
the 'good old days' "~)

Sarah Raven strikes me as someone who is genuinely keen on plants and is
happy to delve around in the soil. Although even with her there is a
marked contrast from what looks like her very first appearance on GW and
how she is now. Even she is much more "commercial" with canny
references to "her Perch Hill garden".

I reckon she has a whole wardrobe of grotty clothes which she uses to give
herself an image on TV. I saw her once at GW Live in birmingham and hardley
recognised her in a very nice dress and with make up !!!!

While the "all for free" garden being developed in GW by Carol Klein is
a great idea it's a waste of time for someone like me as I don't have
access to the bountiful resources of Berryfields and previous season's
cast offs ;-) The annual border idea from the RHS chap at Harlow Carr
was very good though. I might try that in the part of my shared garden
that isn't mine!
Paul C

Have to agree with Janet B's comment son that :~)
Jenny

JennyC wrote:


I reckon she has a whole wardrobe of grotty clothes which she uses to give
herself an image on TV. I saw her once at GW Live in birmingham and hardley
recognised her in a very nice dress and with make up !!!!


LOL
That's exactly what I think, Jenny.
Nobody could consistently dress in such dowdy clothes without making an
effort :-)

Jeff
NE England

JennyC wrote:
"Paul Corfield"
"JennyC"

Sarah Raven strikes me as someone who is genuinely keen on plants and is
happy to delve around in the soil. Although even with her there is a
marked contrast from what looks like her very first appearance on GW and
how she is now. Even she is much more "commercial" with canny
references to "her Perch Hill garden".

I reckon she has a whole wardrobe of grotty clothes which she uses to give
herself an image on TV. I saw her once at GW Live in birmingham and hardley
recognised her in a very nice dress and with make up !!!!

I gather from my wife's comments that some of the clothes she wears for
gardening are far from grotty. I certainly wouldn't work in the garden
wearing £60+ cardigans, anyhow.

James

JennyC wrote:
"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:14:21 +0200, "JennyC"
wrote:

Old washing machine fire - cheapo garden lights ............

Nice :~))

Well lots of the old Geoff Hamilton episodes are being repeated on
uktvstylegardens (satellite channel) and his style is somewhat different
to the current presenters.

OH - wish I could recieve that!
He was a lovely bloke and much as I love Monty, Geoff was in a class all of his
own :~)


Snip

Agreed. I caught the tail end of one GW presented by him last night on
UKTVstylegarden, and was amazed to see him showing how he has a wee
spot beside his greenhouse where he temporarily plants new plants he
buys, to see how they perform, what they need and to give them a chance
to grow bigger if they're too small to be planted in their final place.
In these days of instant garden make-over with roll-out turf and flash
designs for those with deep pockets, it was a refreshing reminder that
gardening is a long haul undertaking.



Cat(h)

On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:14:21 +0200, "JennyC"
wrote:

Old washing machine fire - cheapo garden lights ............

Nice :~))
Jenny

And ways of making cheap cold frames......

Pam in Bristol

"Pam Moore" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:14:21 +0200, "JennyC"
wrote:

Old washing machine fire - cheapo garden lights ............

Nice :~))
Jenny

And ways of making cheap cold frames......
Pam in Bristol

Ah I see you too remember the white painted cardboard box with string handles
)
Jenny

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 08:17:12 +0200, "JennyC"
wrote:


"Pam Moore" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:14:21 +0200, "JennyC"
wrote:

Old washing machine fire - cheapo garden lights ............

Nice :~))
Jenny

And ways of making cheap cold frames......
Pam in Bristol

Ah I see you too remember the white painted cardboard box with string handles
)
Jenny

Oh yes! I did try it once! Have not done the home-made rocks, though
I did see them at Barnsdale.


Pam in Bristol

"Pam Moore" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:14:21 +0200, "JennyC"
wrote:

Old washing machine fire - cheapo garden lights ............

Nice :~))
Jenny

And ways of making cheap cold frames......

Is it just me, or do these 'cheap' methods not always seem cheap?

For instance, the cold frame from a box - that box with the handles looked
expensive (£20 someone told me).

I would also like to have seen someone actually take pallets apart before
making the cold frame.

I have never found that dismantling pallets is worthwhile in terms of time
and effort expended - I have some now (which had block paviours on) and they
are held together with blunt ended nails with ridged shafts.

Ther are almost impossible to get apart without damaging the wood (for some
reason they seem to have made them robust - possibly so they don't fall
apart when shunted around on fork lift trucks).

All I saw was a shot of a pallet and a spade (tried that, didn't work) then
some nice bits of board and timber which showed no sign of being brutalised.

Do they have researchers to do this for them?

Presumably they all grew up watching Blue Peter (and here's one I prepared
earlier).

The only proper cheap method I saw was using loose old bricks to build a
frame.

Granted that there are some ridiculous prices for wooden cold frames (£200+)
you can still find polycarbonate ones via Google for around £40 and I'm sure
I've seen them cheaper in the sheds.

Or this one
http://www.gonegardening.com/xq/ASP/...op/product.htm
for £29.99.

You can save money by building one yourself; I question the value of
breaking up pallets against just buying the wood.

Grumble.

Still breaking up the pallets for firewood.
Not enjoying it.
Hmph.

Dave R

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
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"Pam Moore" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:14:21 +0200, "JennyC"
wrote:

Old washing machine fire - cheapo garden lights ............

Nice :~))
Jenny

And ways of making cheap cold frames......

Is it just me, or do these 'cheap' methods not always seem cheap?

For instance, the cold frame from a box - that box with the handles looked
expensive (£20 someone told me).

I would also like to have seen someone actually take pallets apart before
making the cold frame.

I have never found that dismantling pallets is worthwhile in terms of time
and effort expended - I have some now (which had block paviours on) and
they
are held together with blunt ended nails with ridged shafts.

Ther are almost impossible to get apart without damaging the wood (for
some
reason they seem to have made them robust - possibly so they don't fall
apart when shunted around on fork lift trucks).

....

It's possible to remove the blocks by simply pulling the nail heads
through, by use of a crowbar. With maybe a sharpened cold chisel and
a lump hammer to get things started. All you're left with, is a ragged nail
hole.

....


All I saw was a shot of a pallet and a spade (tried that, didn't work)
then
some nice bits of board and timber which showed no sign of being
brutalised.

Do they have researchers to do this for them?


AFAII all the things Geoff Hamilton demonstrated on TV and wrote
about previously in his articles were his own ideas and adaptations.
Either that or things viewers and readers had suggested of their own.
Which he then did to his own satisfaction, to make sure they worked.

GH was probably the first presenter to actively champion the use of
cheap materials in the garden on TV since the wartime "dig-for-victory,*
and make do and mend" philosphy became unfashionable in the 50's and
thereafter.

GH had hired help on the horticutural side I believe, as all the work
involved would have been a full time occupation in itself.


michael adams

....


Presumably they all grew up watching Blue Peter (and here's one I prepared
earlier).

The only proper cheap method I saw was using loose old bricks to build a
frame.

Granted that there are some ridiculous prices for wooden cold frames
(£200+)
you can still find polycarbonate ones via Google for around £40 and I'm
sure
I've seen them cheaper in the sheds.

Or this one

http://www.gonegardening.com/xq/ASP/...op/product.htm
for £29.99.

You can save money by building one yourself; I question the value of
breaking up pallets against just buying the wood.

Grumble.

Still breaking up the pallets for firewood.
Not enjoying it.
Hmph.

Dave R

"michael adams" wrote in message
...
snip
AFAII all the things Geoff Hamilton demonstrated on TV and wrote
about previously in his articles were his own ideas and adaptations.
Either that or things viewers and readers had suggested of their own.
Which he then did to his own satisfaction, to make sure they worked.

GH was probably the first presenter to actively champion the use of
cheap materials in the garden on TV since the wartime "dig-for-victory,*
and make do and mend" philosphy became unfashionable in the 50's and
thereafter.

GH had hired help on the horticutural side I believe, as all the work
involved would have been a full time occupation in itself.

However this program was done by Monty Don - don't remember the specific one
by GH.

I was querying the current production.

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
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"michael adams" wrote in message
...
snip
AFAII all the things Geoff Hamilton demonstrated on TV and wrote
about previously in his articles were his own ideas and adaptations.
Either that or things viewers and readers had suggested of their own.
Which he then did to his own satisfaction, to make sure they worked.

GH was probably the first presenter to actively champion the use of
cheap materials in the garden on TV since the wartime "dig-for-victory,*
and make do and mend" philosphy became unfashionable in the 50's and
thereafter.

GH had hired help on the horticutural side I believe, as all the work
involved would have been a full time occupation in itself.

However this program was done by Monty Don - don't remember the specific
one
by GH.

I was querying the current production.

While I was responding to specific points made by -

wrote in message
ps.com...

who's post appears to have disppeared from the thread
references regardless of whether its been snipped or not.
There appears to be a discontinuity in the threading
following 's decision
to truncate the thread title.

If you weren't confused before...


michael adams