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Alien conservationists!

“Save our native red squirrels and kill the alien greys”, is the
message being churned out by so-called conservationists in a cynical
and concerted hate campaign aimed at gaining public approval for the
mass slaughter of hundreds of thousands of these harmless, amusing,
friendly and social animals.

So what’s behind all this and is it justified? Of course it’s not!

It is beyond dispute that the grey squirrel species originated from
America but it is also beyond dispute that individual greys born here
are native to this country. The very meaning of the word “native” is
to be born, and it is grey squirrels born here and native to this
country that are being mercilessly slaughtered. And when a grey
squirrel is shot or poisoned it is not the “species” that is being
killed - it's the native individual.

By the same token, individual red squirrels are also native to this
country but it is questionable whether the ancestors of the current
population in Scotland were any less “alien” than the ancestors of the
greys. Around the mid 1800s red squirrels were considered extinct in
Scotland and were introduced from a variety of sources. The population
increased successfully, only to be killed in large numbers by
landowners who considered them as pests. Ironically this is what’s
happening to greys now.

The idea that the pox virus is transmitted from greys to reds is far
from proven. Indeed, it has been suggested the same virus might well
have caused a previous population decline in reds, long before grey
squirrels existed in the UK. Furthermore, the government’s Joint
Nature Conservation Website states the following:

· The origin of squirrel poxvirus in red squirrels is unknown
· Research shows that the antibodies to the virus are common in some
grey squirrel populations but only one case of disease has been found
in a grey squirrel, whilst very few red squirrels carry the antibodies
to the virus.
· It is therefore possible that grey squirrels act as a reservoir host
(carrier) for the virus whilst the majority of red squirrels affected
with poxvirus appear to die within a week of becoming infected.

A policy of slaughter meted out to grey squirrels based on unknowns
and possibilities is as outrageous as it is unfair.

This policy against grey squirrels is one of intolerance and
discrimination and has an almost exact parallel to that of pre-war
Nazi Germany where the same venom and hate was directed at people
deemed not to be genetically pure, of ethnic origin or in numbers that
were considered to be a threat to the Aryan population. This led to
millions of innocent people being slaughtered in the following years.
It’s worth bearing in mind that Intolerance of animals is only one
step from intolerance of humans.

Saving the red squirrel population is desirable but not to the extent
of slaughtering greys. Improving the reds habitat, which could include
planting appropriate tree species such as Scots pine, larch, Norway
spruce, lodgepole pine, Douglas fir, yew, hawthorn and even the North
American Sitca spruce are all measures that can favour red squirrels.
Other native and non-native species can be planted to act as barriers
to greys in areas inhabited by reds. These solutions are well known to
conservationists but intensely disliked because it goes against their
obsession for all things native.


So the next time you see a grey squirrel remember he was born here and
is just as “native” as us - and forget what the conservation fanatics
want you to believe, that he is some form of alien being.

Indeed, if there are any “aliens” among us, it’s the conservationists;
not the grey squirrels.


Angus Macmillan

March 2006.






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There's no doubt that there is a pest aspect of grey squirrels, particularly where they damage trees, predate on small birds and chew up garden bird feeders. However, I would not wish to see the grey squirrel controlled and I think that a lot of the 'countryside do-gooders' who are promoting this are wrong. As you have said Angus, the grey squirrel is now native to the UK and is part of the ecology of the UK. As with most ecological systems, they become balanced if man doesn't interfere!

On a personal note, my summer 'el fresco' breakfasts on the patio, would not be the same without the grey squirrel's company! It rather annoys me to hear that some of my near neighbours have joined the 'trap and kill the squirrel' campaign..... especially when most of them have cats!!
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"Pest Effects" wrote in message
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There's no doubt that there is a pest aspect of grey squirrels,
particularly where they damage trees, predate on small birds
and chew up garden bird feeders.


They've never succeeded in chewing up one of mine.
Made up of a double thickness of quarter inch mesh -
as found in any DIY shed, formed into a roll with
half a tin can at either end. All held together
with lengths of galvanised wire which also serve
as perches for the birds.



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"michael adams" wrote in message
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"Pest Effects" wrote in message
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There's no doubt that there is a pest aspect of grey squirrels,
particularly where they damage trees, predate on small birds
and chew up garden bird feeders.


They've never succeeded in chewing up one of mine.
Made up of a double thickness of quarter inch mesh -
as found in any DIY shed, formed into a roll with
half a tin can at either end. All held together
with lengths of galvanised wire which also serve
as perches for the birds.


But it is wrong that one has to go to those lengths in order to feed birds.

Alan



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"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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"michael adams" wrote in message
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"Pest Effects" wrote in message
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There's no doubt that there is a pest aspect of grey squirrels,
particularly where they damage trees, predate on small birds
and chew up garden bird feeders.


They've never succeeded in chewing up one of mine.
Made up of a double thickness of quarter inch mesh -
as found in any DIY shed, formed into a roll with
half a tin can at either end. All held together
with lengths of galvanised wire which also serve
as perches for the birds.


But it is wrong that one has to go to those lengths in order to
feed birds.

Alan



No it isn't.

It gives me an opportunity to demonstrate my insufferable smugness
for one thing.



michael adams

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Alien conservationists!

"Save our native red squirrels and kill the alien greys", is the
message being churned out by so-called conservationists in a cynical
and concerted hate campaign aimed at gaining public approval for the
mass slaughter of hundreds of thousands of these harmless, amusing,
friendly and social animals.

So what's behind all this and is it justified? Of course it's not!


Taking into account the damage the tree rats do, it is most certainly
justified!

Alan


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“Save our native red squirrels and kill the alien greys”, [snip]
Badgers catch bovine tuberculosis off cows, surely it is the cows not the badgers who should be culled.

Humans catch various diseases off other humans, sometimes with a mosquito or tick acting as intermediate carrier. Surely it is the humans who should be culled.

For some sentimental reason I don't like this line of argument any more.
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