Hello all.

I have recently acquired a small plot of a few hectares of coastal
(cliff top) land, and should like to maximize it's benefit to
wildlife, in a relatively unmanaged environment.

Countryside surrounding, with non intensive farming locally.

Any hints, tips or ideas via email please.


Mark

On 9/10/06 17:05, in article ,
" wrote:

Hello all.

I have recently acquired a small plot of a few hectares of coastal
(cliff top) land, and should like to maximize it's benefit to
wildlife, in a relatively unmanaged environment.

Countryside surrounding, with non intensive farming locally.

Any hints, tips or ideas via email please.


Mark

From the pov of urg, it would help to know the location because that will
affect what you plant, to some extent.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 9/10/06 17:05, in article ,
" wrote:

Hello all.

I have recently acquired a small plot of a few hectares of coastal
(cliff top) land, and should like to maximize it's benefit to
wildlife, in a relatively unmanaged environment.

Countryside surrounding, with non intensive farming locally.

Any hints, tips or ideas via email please.


Mark

From the pov of urg, it would help to know the location because that will
affect what you plant, to some extent.
--

yes, just a general location would do, as you can imagine, suggestions for
Devon would be very different to suggestions for Yorkshire

Jim Webster

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:13:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 9/10/06 17:05, in article ,
" wrote:

Hello all.

I have recently acquired a small plot of a few hectares of coastal
(cliff top) land, and should like to maximize it's benefit to
wildlife, in a relatively unmanaged environment.

Countryside surrounding, with non intensive farming locally.

Any hints, tips or ideas via email please.


Mark

Sorry, I should add.Email replies only please.

From the pov of urg, it would help to know the location because that will
affect what you plant, to some extent.

Welsh mid coastal.

Sacha wrote:
On 9/10/06 17:05, in article ,
" wrote:

Hello all.

I have recently acquired a small plot of a few hectares of coastal
(cliff top) land, and should like to maximize it's benefit to
wildlife, in a relatively unmanaged environment.

Countryside surrounding, with non intensive farming locally.

Any hints, tips or ideas via email please.


Mark

From the pov of urg, it would help to know the location because that will
affect what you plant, to some extent.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

try the thread on little marloes farm recently x-posted to dozens of
groups
http://property.timesonline.co.uk/ar...363917,00.html is
the farm in question which has been sold to a lady from London

As a theorectical exercise it would be quite interesting to follow the
train of thought from all the groups x posted to, to see what problems
and solutions are uncovered

wrote in message
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:13:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 9/10/06 17:05, in article ,
" wrote:

Hello all.

I have recently acquired a small plot of a few hectares of coastal
(cliff top) land, and should like to maximize it's benefit to
wildlife, in a relatively unmanaged environment.

Countryside surrounding, with non intensive farming locally.

Any hints, tips or ideas via email please.


Mark

Sorry, I should add.Email replies only please.

Sorry. You post to a newsgroup, you get replies to a newsgroup.

It's only fair, you see?

You certainly need to have some nettles - very useful to many species.

Also some pond and/or a stream will give drinking water for birds and other
creatures.

Ideally, you should visit your local library or bookshop and get a book to
for easy day-to-day reference.

--
Brian

On 9/10/06 17:45, in article ,
" wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:13:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 9/10/06 17:05, in article ,
" wrote:

Hello all.

I have recently acquired a small plot of a few hectares of coastal
(cliff top) land, and should like to maximize it's benefit to
wildlife, in a relatively unmanaged environment.

Countryside surrounding, with non intensive farming locally.

Any hints, tips or ideas via email please.


Mark

Sorry, I should add.Email replies only please.

Not a popular move on newsgroups. The whole idea of groups is that we share
info and ideas and that you should check in to get them. You will also
receive a LOT more information that way, too because people will suggest,
debate, argue and give you a lot more to chew on, basically. If you post to
newsgroups on a topic suited to that group you should expect to read and
receive replies there.

From the pov of urg, it would help to know the location because that will
affect what you plant, to some extent.

Welsh mid coastal.

I'm sure someone will be able to help you. What is the indigenous wildlife
now? It helps to know that because it helps to know what you wish to
attract or shelter. Are there trees and if so, which? What ground cover do
you have and what does it consist of? Is the land grazed by sheep, cows or
horses? Is any of it ploughed and cultivated and if so, what is grown
there? Is the non intensive farming organic or are non-organic sprays
used? If they are either, do you know which they are?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

writes

Sorry, I should add.Email replies only please.

Hmmm....

That's not the best way to get information, and an even worse way to get
reliable information.

Indeed most people with experience will say NO emails and do it all on
the groups.

You do not need to give your location away, mid wales coastal is about
all that is needed.

Soil pH (alkaline or acid), rainfall, drainage (clay or well-drained),
current plants dominating the plot and recent agricultural history would
also be helpful.

In general it depends what you want.
If you want it to revert to gorse then do nothing.

If you want to maintain the typical short grassland and various herbs of
a southwestern clifftop the you might like to consider grazing for a
number of years.

If its been cropped (grass or crops) even modestly intensively then try
hard to get a local farmer to take silage/hay off it for a few years but
DO NOT ALLOW HIM TO USE ANY PHOSPHATE. Nitrogen typically decays to low
levels within a few years and a couple of silage crops (with no
potassium applied) will deplete potassium to pretty low levels at your
convenience.



--
Oz
This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious.

Sacha wrote:
On 9/10/06 17:05, in article
, "
wrote:

Hello all.

I have recently acquired a small plot of a few hectares of coastal
(cliff top) land, and should like to maximize it's benefit to
wildlife, in a relatively unmanaged environment.

Countryside surrounding, with non intensive farming locally.

Any hints, tips or ideas via email please.


Mark

From the pov of urg, it would help to know the location because that
will affect what you plant, to some extent.

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Don't encourage rampant cross posting.

Ideally ignore completely, but if you must reply, trim all but URG!!!!!

ok

"Jill" wrote in message
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Sacha wrote:
On 9/10/06 17:05, in article ,
" wrote:

Hello all.

I have recently acquired a small plot of a few hectares of coastal
(cliff top) land, and should like to maximize it's benefit to
wildlife, in a relatively unmanaged environment.

Countryside surrounding, with non intensive farming locally.

Any hints, tips or ideas via email please.


Mark

From the pov of urg, it would help to know the location because that will
affect what you plant, to some extent.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

try the thread on little marloes farm recently x-posted to dozens of
groups
http://property.timesonline.co.uk/ar...363917,00.html is
the farm in question which has been sold to a lady from London

As a theorectical exercise it would be quite interesting to follow the
train of thought from all the groups x posted to, to see what problems
and solutions are uncovered


yes, there are a lot of people who can contribute from long experience in
this sort of thing

Jim Webster