"judith lea" wrote in message
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Clarice wrote:
Completely new to news groups, full stop, so I hope I get this right
and am posting in the right place!


Clarice, I hope you will be able to get some good advice from elsewhere
but our resident troll the irritant Flea, has started posting again -
she disrupts us all from time to time, most people kill file her but in
general she is ignored. As you could see from her posting she says I
was wrong to advise on pruning Apple trees in the Autumn. Of course
one prunes them in Autumn but she does not realise that my advice to
prune Damson in the Spring is for Damsons and not for apples.

Stay around a while and you will soon realise who the experts are here,
I, certainly, am not one, but then I never pretend otherwise.

I just un-kill filed it to see the full thread. The usual unpleasant stuff
from puce---including the obligatory threats. I felt I had to make a comment
so that you realise you are not alone.

Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote:

I just un-kill filed it to see the full thread. The usual unpleasant stuff
from puce---including the obligatory threats. I felt I had to make a comment
so that you realise you are not alone.

Thank you Rupert, but it's o.k. I have well and truly plonked her as
she bores me and as for her threats - she's been told, officially, to
stop her lies - don't comment any more after this Rupert, lets take it
to email as all trolls get a kick out of our responses, so mea culpa
but I have something much more interesting to talk to you about on
email.

"judith lea" wrote in message
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Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote:

I just un-kill filed it to see the full thread. The usual unpleasant
stuff
from puce---including the obligatory threats. I felt I had to make a
comment
so that you realise you are not alone.

Thank you Rupert, but it's o.k. I have well and truly plonked her as
she bores me and as for her threats - she's been told, officially, to
stop her lies - don't comment any more after this Rupert, lets take it
to email as all trolls get a kick out of our responses, so mea culpa
but I have something much more interesting to talk to you about on
email.

Oh, go on, please share it all with the rest of us, don't be mean!

Alan

Alan Holmes wrote:


Oh, go on, please share it all with the rest of us, don't be mean!

Alan

Bad boy, no!!! I remember your wife well Alan from the meet at Kay's,
how is she? and how is the caravan?

"judith lea" wrote in message
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Alan Holmes wrote:


Oh, go on, please share it all with the rest of us, don't be mean!

Alan

Bad boy, no!!! I remember your wife well Alan from the meet at Kay's,
how is she? and how is the caravan?

Have decided to give up caravaning, pulling the thing out of the drive had
become a real pain in the behind, so it came to an end, a pity but that's
how life goes, I really loved the independency the caravan gave, now have to
rely on B&B or Youth Hostels!

Joyce is almost fine, having a couple of minor health problems at the moment
but hopefully everything will turn out right.

Alan

Alan Holmes writes

"judith lea" wrote in message
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Alan Holmes wrote:


Oh, go on, please share it all with the rest of us, don't be mean!

Alan

Bad boy, no!!! I remember your wife well Alan from the meet at Kay's,
how is she? and how is the caravan?

Have decided to give up caravaning, pulling the thing out of the drive had
become a real pain in the behind, so it came to an end, a pity but that's
how life goes, I really loved the independency the caravan gave, now have to
rely on B&B or Youth Hostels!

*Youth* hostels?!! ;-)
--
Kay

"K" wrote in message
...
Alan Holmes writes

"judith lea" wrote in message
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Alan Holmes wrote:


Oh, go on, please share it all with the rest of us, don't be mean!

Alan

Bad boy, no!!! I remember your wife well Alan from the meet at Kay's,
how is she? and how is the caravan?

Have decided to give up caravaning, pulling the thing out of the drive had
become a real pain in the behind, so it came to an end, a pity but that's
how life goes, I really loved the independency the caravan gave, now have
to
rely on B&B or Youth Hostels!

*Youth* hostels?!! ;-)

Well I haven't yet met anyone older than me at a hostel, but I do know of
one fellow who is a member and he is much older than me!

Alan



--
Kay

Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote:
"judith lea" wrote in message
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Clarice wrote:
Completely new to news groups, full stop, so I hope I get this right
and am posting in the right place!


Clarice, I hope you will be able to get some good advice from elsewhere
but our resident troll the irritant Flea, has started posting again -
she disrupts us all from time to time, most people kill file her but in
general she is ignored. As you could see from her posting she says I
was wrong to advise on pruning Apple trees in the Autumn. Of course
one prunes them in Autumn but she does not realise that my advice to
prune Damson in the Spring is for Damsons and not for apples.

Stay around a while and you will soon realise who the experts are here,
I, certainly, am not one, but then I never pretend otherwise.

I just un-kill filed it to see the full thread. The usual unpleasant stuff
from puce---including the obligatory threats. I felt I had to make a comment
so that you realise you are not alone.

For the record. I am here to talk about gardening, and am utterly
unimpressed with two (for it does take two) supposedly adult people who
cannot have a difference of opinion without resorting to bitchy retorts
a 5-year old would find childish, and are patently devoid of the most
basic humility required to recognise when they get it wrong.
To me, this reflects equally poorly on both protagonists, and has
certainly influenced me in deciding whose comments to read, and whose
to ignore.
I felt I had to make this comment just so silence is not assimilated to
support for one or other equally unimpressive party.
FWIW

Cat(h)

Cat(h) wrote:

For the record. I am here to talk about gardening, and am utterly
unimpressed with two (for it does take two) supposedly adult people who
cannot have a difference of opinion without resorting to bitchy retorts
a 5-year old would find childish, and are patently devoid of the most
basic humility required to recognise when they get it wrong.
To me, this reflects equally poorly on both protagonists, and has
certainly influenced me in deciding whose comments to read, and whose
to ignore.
I felt I had to make this comment just so silence is not assimilated to
support for one or other equally unimpressive party.
FWIW

Cat(h)

You are quite right - I apologise for offending you.

judith lea wrote:
Cat(h) wrote:

For the record. I am here to talk about gardening, and am utterly
unimpressed with two (for it does take two) supposedly adult people who
cannot have a difference of opinion without resorting to bitchy retorts
a 5-year old would find childish, and are patently devoid of the most
basic humility required to recognise when they get it wrong.
To me, this reflects equally poorly on both protagonists, and has
certainly influenced me in deciding whose comments to read, and whose
to ignore.
I felt I had to make this comment just so silence is not assimilated to
support for one or other equally unimpressive party.
FWIW

Cat(h)

You are quite right - I apologise for offending you.

You did not offend me, so no apology is required. This is usenet,
after all. However, my experience of URG is that it is an
exceptionally mature and really good newsgroup, with focussed
contributors generous with sharing their experience and expertise,
little feeding of trolls and practically no entertainment of the
occasional headcase who inevitably cross-posts or passes through.
Bickering in which regular contributors resort to calling each-other
names or commenting disparagingly on one-another's appearance (!!!!!)
just doesn't fit with what I expect from this newsgroup. Hence my
comment. I shall say no more on the topic.

Cat(h)

Cat(h) wrote:
You did not offend me, so no apology is required. This is usenet,
after all. However, my experience of URG is that it is an
exceptionally mature and really good newsgroup, with focussed
contributors generous with sharing their experience and expertise,
little feeding of trolls and practically no entertainment of the
occasional headcase who inevitably cross-posts or passes through.
Bickering in which regular contributors resort to calling each-other
names or commenting disparagingly on one-another's appearance (!!!!!)
just doesn't fit with what I expect from this newsgroup. Hence my
comment. I shall say no more on the topic.

It is good to read fair post and encouraging too. I have now washed my
hair, cleaned my clothes and brushed my teeth. Honest I did.

http://cjoint.com/?mnpPpxQyA8

"Cat(h)" wrote in message

This is usenet,
after all. However, my experience of URG is that it is an
exceptionally mature and really good newsgroup, with focussed
contributors generous with sharing their experience and expertise,
little feeding of trolls and practically no entertainment of the
occasional headcase who inevitably cross-posts or passes through.

Yes it IS usenet and we are all used to trolls. However, what does
one do when the headcases become one of the "regular contributors"
and that headcase gives bad advice or is mixes in trolling along with
some garden advice?

I've pondering this long and hard and I've decided to just killfile
but I do have some sympathy for those new to gardening who, through
lack of any reasoned/unreasoned response to that poor advice, may take
the info onboard and act upon it.

On 13/12/06 23:13, in article
, "Farm1"
please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:

snip

I've pondering this long and hard and I've decided to just killfile
but I do have some sympathy for those new to gardening who, through
lack of any reasoned/unreasoned response to that poor advice, may take
the info onboard and act upon it.

And that is *precisely* why a very few of us have taken issue with the
perpetrator. IMO, more should have done so. As I said some weeks ago,
urg's reputation for excellence has been dragged in the mire by this one
fool and as a consequence, we have lost the contributions of some excellent
and knowledgeable posters. It's very clear that the group has suffered as a
result. It is not the place it was, most certainly and it shows.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

Sacha writes

It's very clear that the group has suffered as a
result. It is not the place it was, most certainly and it shows.

While we all accept the very great contribution made by Dave Poole, and
by Janet's knowledge, I'm sure you wouldn't want to dismiss the
contributions made by people like Charlie, Bob Hobden, Rupert, Stuart
Hinsley, Martin Brown and the very many contributors who are expert in
their own field.
--
Kay

"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message
...
"Cat(h)" wrote in message

This is usenet,
after all. However, my experience of URG is that it is an
exceptionally mature and really good newsgroup, with focussed
contributors generous with sharing their experience and expertise,
little feeding of trolls and practically no entertainment of the
occasional headcase who inevitably cross-posts or passes through.

Yes it IS usenet and we are all used to trolls. However, what does
one do when the headcases become one of the "regular contributors"
and that headcase gives bad advice or is mixes in trolling along with
some garden advice?

I've pondering this long and hard and I've decided to just killfile
but I do have some sympathy for those new to gardening who, through
lack of any reasoned/unreasoned response to that poor advice, may take
the info onboard and act upon it.

We covered this ground in a previous thread? and never reached a
satisfactory conclusion. If the regulars killfiled "the nuisance" then there
would be no one around to defend innocent new posters against bad advice or
threats. I think Mike Adams also covered the point "Why should newbies
believe me or you rather than someone else.
Perhaps the best solution is to just ignore a certain poster and never make
a direct reply.