wrote in message
ups.com...
.. They are also
poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to
factory farming.


???????????????????

Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies,
can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the
public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the
pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds?

Thank you

Mike
70 and going strong :-))


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www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 16:18:55 -0000, "'Mike'" wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
. They are also
poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to
factory farming.


???????????????????

Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies,
can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the
public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the
pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds?


Some are living longer, some arent. Many are dying far too early.
Cancers, CJD, Dementia etc.

Just because you're alright Jack, doesnt mean it's alright.


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***************************
"Think occasionally of the suffering of which you
spare yourself the sight."
- Albert Schweitzer

Check out Animal Aid’s brand new one-minute video.
This powerful film, containing shocking images,
just begs to be seen by as many people as possible.
Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends
and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2






The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing

1.I was forced to as a child.
2.People who make soap are only after your money.
3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter.
4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else.
5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best.
6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped.
7.None of my friends wash.
8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer.
9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier.
10.I can't spare the time .

On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:34:25 +0000, Geoff wrote:

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 16:18:55 -0000, "'Mike'" wrote:

wrote in message
roups.com...
. They are also
poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to
factory farming.


???????????????????

Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies,
can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the
public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the
pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds?


Some are living longer, some arent. Many are dying far too early.
Cancers, CJD, Dementia etc.

Doesn't stuff like that kill vegans?

Just because you're alright Jack, doesnt mean it's alright.

dh@. wrote in message ...
Some are living longer, some arent. Many are dying far too early.
Cancers, CJD, Dementia etc.

Doesn't stuff like that kill vegans?


no they die of boring diets :-((

Mike

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.................................................. .........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com

On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:16:58 -0500, dh@. wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:34:25 +0000, Geoff wrote:

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 16:18:55 -0000, "'Mike'" wrote:

wrote in message
groups.com...
. They are also
poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to
factory farming.


???????????????????

Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies,
can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the
public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the
pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds?


Some are living longer, some arent. Many are dying far too early.
Cancers, CJD, Dementia etc.

Doesn't stuff like that kill vegans?

Only if they turned vegan too late.


--


***************************
"Think occasionally of the suffering of which you
spare yourself the sight."
- Albert Schweitzer

Check out Animal Aid’s brand new one-minute video.
This powerful film, containing shocking images,
just begs to be seen by as many people as possible.
Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends
and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2






The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing

1.I was forced to as a child.
2.People who make soap are only after your money.
3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter.
4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else.
5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best.
6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped.
7.None of my friends wash.
8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer.
9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier.
10.I can't spare the time .

On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:55:13 +0000, Geoff wrote:

On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:16:58 -0500, dh@. wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:34:25 +0000, Geoff wrote:

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 16:18:55 -0000, "'Mike'" wrote:

wrote in message
egroups.com...
. They are also
poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to
factory farming.


???????????????????

Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies,
can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the
public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the
pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds?


Some are living longer, some arent. Many are dying far too early.
Cancers, CJD, Dementia etc.

Doesn't stuff like that kill vegans?

Only if they turned vegan too late.

LOL. Good one.

dh@. wrote in message ...
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:55:13 +0000, Geoff wrote:

On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:16:58 -0500, dh@. wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:34:25 +0000, Geoff wrote:

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 16:18:55 -0000, "'Mike'" wrote:

wrote in message
legroups.com...
. They are also
poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to
factory farming.


???????????????????

Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that
veggies,
can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning
the
public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof,
the
pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension
funds?


Some are living longer, some arent. Many are dying far too early.
Cancers, CJD, Dementia etc.

Doesn't stuff like that kill vegans?

Only if they turned vegan too late.

LOL. Good one.

not really, given that there has only been 160 odd deaths nvCJD has been the
vegetarian scare story that just failed to happen
Wonder when they will publish the figures for those who have died from nut
allergy in the same period

Jim Webster

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:30:53 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote:


dh@. wrote in message ...
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:55:13 +0000, Geoff wrote:

On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:16:58 -0500, dh@. wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:34:25 +0000, Geoff wrote:

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 16:18:55 -0000, "'Mike'" wrote:

wrote in message
glegroups.com...
. They are also
poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to
factory farming.


???????????????????

Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that
veggies,
can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning
the
public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof,
the
pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension
funds?


Some are living longer, some arent. Many are dying far too early.
Cancers, CJD, Dementia etc.

Doesn't stuff like that kill vegans?

Only if they turned vegan too late.

LOL. Good one.

not really, given that there has only been 160 odd deaths nvCJD has been the
vegetarian scare story that just failed to happen
Wonder when they will publish the figures for those who have died from nut
allergy in the same period

Jim Webster
__________________________________________________ _______
.. . .

Peanut allergies account for 50 to 100 deaths in the United States each year.
Some youngsters must eat at a peanut-free cafeteria table or even in an
isolated room. Some airlines have stopped serving peanuts to safeguard people
allergic to even a whiff of the nut.

Peanut allergies have been rising in recent decades. No one is sure why, but a
new study found that baby creams or lotions containing peanut oil may lead to
peanut allergies.

Babies whose rashes or eczema were soothed by such creams were more likely
to become allergic to peanuts than those whose creams did not include peanut
oil, said Dr. Gideon Lack of St. Mary's Hospital at Imperial College in London.
.. . .

http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/condi...ut.allergy.ap/
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"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
ups.com...
. They are also
poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to
factory farming.


???????????????????

Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies,
can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the
public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the
pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds?

Thank you

Mike
70 and going strong :-))


hate to say it Mike but you are asking them to justify a deeply held
religious belief, and they find it difficult to do, especially when you look
at their evidence and it doesn't stand up

Jim Webster

Dear Jim: I certainly agree with your statement. Let's ask these
people like Geoff, just who and what they are, what gives them the
right to tear apart whole industries to satisfy their own predilections
to destroy the livelihoods of those who provide them the very
necessities of life?

Burkie
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Webster wrote:
"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
ups.com...
. They are also
poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to
factory farming.


???????????????????

Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies,
can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the
public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the
pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds?

Thank you

Mike
70 and going strong :-))


hate to say it Mike but you are asking them to justify a deeply held
religious belief, and they find it difficult to do, especially when you look
at their evidence and it doesn't stand up

Jim Webster

"Burkie" wrote in message
oups.com...
Dear Jim: I certainly agree with your statement. Let's ask these
people like Geoff, just who and what they are, what gives them the
right to tear apart whole industries to satisfy their own predilections
to destroy the livelihoods of those who provide them the very
necessities of life?

Burkie

waste of time, as pete is either a troll, who just says it to wind you up,
or a crank in which case he doesn't care anyway

more sense to look at the figures, more and more people in the world are
consuming more meat every year
but with the way that grain is going in bioethanol, and the way that oil
prices are going up, a lot of people in the apparently prosperous west are
suddenly going to discover that the vegetarian protein sources and more
interesting vegetables they are used to are going to become awfully
expensive.
I wonder how many will be keen on being vegetarian when their only
vegetables are those that grow seasonally in England

the petes of this world are going to discover that they can ignore reality
for as long as they like, but reality will not ignore them

The coarse fisherman could well eat better than they do in the next few
years ;-)

Jim Webster

On 7 Jan 2007 22:49:07 -0800, "Burkie" wrote:

Dear Jim: I certainly agree with your statement. Let's ask these
people like Geoff, just who and what they are, what gives them the
right to tear apart whole industries to satisfy their own predilections
to destroy the livelihoods of those who provide them the very
necessities of life?

Burkie

The right to protect myself, my family, friends and the planet is
written in my conscience. Just as it's your choice to do the opposite.


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Jim Webster wrote:
"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
ups.com...
. They are also
poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to
factory farming.


???????????????????

Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies,
can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the
public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the
pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds?

Thank you

Mike
70 and going strong :-))


hate to say it Mike but you are asking them to justify a deeply held
religious belief, and they find it difficult to do, especially when you look
at their evidence and it doesn't stand up

Jim Webster

--


***************************
"Think occasionally of the suffering of which you
spare yourself the sight."
- Albert Schweitzer

Check out Animal Aid’s brand new one-minute video.
This powerful film, containing shocking images,
just begs to be seen by as many people as possible.
Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends
and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2






The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing

1.I was forced to as a child.
2.People who make soap are only after your money.
3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter.
4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else.
5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best.
6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped.
7.None of my friends wash.
8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer.
9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier.
10.I can't spare the time .

'Mike' wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
. They are also
poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to
factory farming.


???????????????????

Have you seen some of the videos?

Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies,
can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the
public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the
pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds?

People live longer not because but in spite of meat they consume. We
see more and more frequent bans of meat imports due to health risks.
Some people stopped eating meat to protect their health while others
out of concern for the cruel treatment of animals.

wrote in message
oups.com...
'Mike' wrote:
Some people stopped eating meat to protect their health while others
out of concern for the cruel treatment of animals.


"SOME"

I am so glad you put that in. And how many, or what % of the population
would that be? 2%? 5%? even 10%? (which I doubt) which still leaves a huge
majority not on your wavelength :-))

Mike


--
.................................................. .........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 18:25:48 -0000, "'Mike'" wrote:

wrote in message
roups.com...
'Mike' wrote:
Some people stopped eating meat to protect their health while others
out of concern for the cruel treatment of animals.


"SOME"

I am so glad you put that in. And how many, or what % of the population
would that be? 2%? 5%? even 10%? (which I doubt) which still leaves a huge
majority not on your wavelength :-))

I hope you don't think the silent majority support animal abuse? As
the pro hunt loons found out, the silent majority counts for a lot.
--


***************************
"Think occasionally of the suffering of which you
spare yourself the sight."
- Albert Schweitzer

Check out Animal Aid’s brand new one-minute video.
This powerful film, containing shocking images,
just begs to be seen by as many people as possible.
Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends
and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2






The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing

1.I was forced to as a child.
2.People who make soap are only after your money.
3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter.
4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else.
5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best.
6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped.
7.None of my friends wash.
8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer.
9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier.
10.I can't spare the time .