On Feb 2, 9:55 pm, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
In article " writes:

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would this heavy snow
| finish them off? They have been there several years and are quite
| hardy but the snow this year has been heavier.

No. If they are C. coum or C. hederifolium, they are very hardy
provided that they stay fairly dry. They can't stand waterlogging.
You may lose some corms, but I doubt you will lose many.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick, as is well known, my gardening knowledge is slight and that's
why I read urg so I don't know what type they are. I have some really
big ones which I bought singly and a lot of small ones. Thanks so
much for the advice.

Judith

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On Feb 2, 9:55 pm, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
In article
ps.com,"judith.le...@g
ooglemail.com" writes:

|
would this heavy snow
| finish them off? They have been there several years and are quite
| hardy but the snow this year has been heavier.

No. If they are C. coum or C. hederifolium, they are very hardy
provided that they stay fairly dry. They can't stand waterlogging.
You may lose some corms, but I doubt you will lose many.


Nick, as is well known, my gardening knowledge is slight and that's
why I read urg so I don't know what type they are. I have some really
big ones which I bought singly and a lot of small ones. Thanks so
much for the advice.

If they were in the UK, the round leaves and flowering in spring (ie
now) = coum, slightly more angular leaves and flowering in autumn =
hederifolium (which means 'ivy leaved'. But there's probably a wider
variety in France as there are several other species which are not that
much more tender.

I think they can stand short periods of waterlogging - mine are at the
far end of the garden which takes several hours to drain after heavy
rain. They aren't ever under water, but the path a couple of foot away
is. They're shallowly planted, in leaf litter under a mature whitebeam
so they aren't soggy for prolonged periods.
--
Kay

In article ,
K writes:
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| I think they can stand short periods of waterlogging - mine are at the
| far end of the garden which takes several hours to drain after heavy
| rain. They aren't ever under water, but the path a couple of foot away
| is. They're shallowly planted, in leaf litter under a mature whitebeam
| so they aren't soggy for prolonged periods.

I am pretty sure that is the key, as with many plants. Being under
water for a few days doesn't worry most plants, but being damaged
and then remaining wet gives fungi and bacteria an opportunity to
start rotting the plants.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

K wrote:


Some people reckon it can be hard to get them going again from dry, but
this applies to corms that you buy - if you're simply digging up from
one area of the garden and replanting them the same day, I couldn't
imagine they'd actually notice, so dormant seem the time to go.

Yes, but they won't BE dry if you dig them up and replant them on the
same day. :-)

I usually move mine just as they are coming into growth so I can split
them etc and see which, if any have had their day. The weather is of no
consequence in terms of the plants themselves as they are, of course,
hardy. But, naturally, you will need to be able to work the soil.

In article ,
Jane writes:
| K wrote:
|
| Some people reckon it can be hard to get them going again from dry, but
| this applies to corms that you buy - if you're simply digging up from
| one area of the garden and replanting them the same day, I couldn't
| imagine they'd actually notice, so dormant seem the time to go.
|
| Yes, but they won't BE dry if you dig them up and replant them on the
| same day. :-)

We haven't had a really dry summer spell in a decade, but there have
been some periods here where the soil near the surface has been
chemically waterless.

| I usually move mine just as they are coming into growth so I can split
| them etc and see which, if any have had their day. The weather is of no
| consequence in terms of the plants themselves as they are, of course,
| hardy. But, naturally, you will need to be able to work the soil.

They are only moderately hardy, so moving them during a genuinely
cold spell is a bad idea. But, if the soil isn't frozen, it isn't a
genuinely cold spell :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article ,
Jane writes:
| K wrote:
|
| Some people reckon it can be hard to get them going again from dry, but
| this applies to corms that you buy - if you're simply digging up from
| one area of the garden and replanting them the same day, I couldn't
| imagine they'd actually notice, so dormant seem the time to go.
|
| Yes, but they won't BE dry if you dig them up and replant them on the
| same day. :-)

That was the point I was trying to make. Dig them up and replant them
the same day, no probs. Dig them up in spring, put them aside and
replant them in autumn when you have the new bed prepared - you may have
problems.
--
Kay

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Jane writes:


| I usually move mine just as they are coming into growth so I can split
| them etc and see which, if any have had their day. The weather is of no
| consequence in terms of the plants themselves as they are, of course,
| hardy. But, naturally, you will need to be able to work the soil.

They are only moderately hardy, so moving them during a genuinely
cold spell is a bad idea. But, if the soil isn't frozen, it isn't a
genuinely cold spell :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Which is basically what I said. Not very well, perhaps. :-)