On 7/2/07 23:56, in article
, "Farm1"
please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:

"Sacha" wrote in message

Just a word of warning to those who haven't had a tetanus jab
lately.
Please keep up to date! Those working with sharp implements and/or
delving
into the soil need them. My husband tried to separate two of our
dogs
having a fight last Friday and got bitten on his left hand.

Aaah the joys of dog ownership! I know it well. I find a foot
covered with a strong leather boot put between their chests with a
hefty sideways motion often works well. I learned long ago that hands
and dog's fangs don't make a good combo in this situation.

It's damned Jack Russells and a wire haired Dachshund that's the problem!
One Jackie and Oscar the whd, are tussling it out for who's leader of the
pack - or who is second in the pack. Oscar is entire, the JRs aren't but it
seems to make no difference to the JRs in terms of sheer bloody mindedness.
Love them both as I do, I will never have two together again!
They *love* people, even if they bark like demons and mostly, they love each
other but occasionally these furious outbursts happen over the classic "who
goes first through the door?"!
snip

Poor man. I hope he's beginning to feel better Sacha.

Thanks so much. Slowly mending and I hope the overnight hospital stay is
going to do the trick.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)

"Sacha" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:
"Sacha" wrote in message

Just a word of warning to those who haven't had a tetanus jab
lately.
Please keep up to date! Those working with sharp implements
and/or
delving
into the soil need them. My husband tried to separate two of our
dogs
having a fight last Friday and got bitten on his left hand.

Aaah the joys of dog ownership! I know it well. I find a foot
covered with a strong leather boot put between their chests with a
hefty sideways motion often works well. I learned long ago that
hands
and dog's fangs don't make a good combo in this situation.

It's damned Jack Russells

Snap! I have 2 Jack Russells and a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel .

I say it's the sublime to the rididulous - the sublime breed varies
given the circumstances - sometimes it's the JRs and sometimes the
King Chuck.

and a wire haired Dachshund that's the problem!
One Jackie and Oscar the whd, are tussling it out for who's leader
of the
pack - or who is second in the pack. Oscar is entire, the JRs
aren't but it
seems to make no difference to the JRs in terms of sheer bloody
mindedness.

I know exactly what you mean about JRs! In our case one of our JRs is
entire and the other isn't. My boy, (Bertrand Rusell Jack Russell -
aka Bertie) has been neutered and is a lovely wee man but he simply
won't let my husband's entire JR (just plain old Max - he's a thick
boofhead but a very good looking dog who has been called on to do his
duty in producing litters for neighbours) dominate him.

Sometimes Bertie just stands there and shakes with his head averted as
Max growls whilst guarding the food bowl or a human's feet or whatever
it is he's trying to be dominant about and sometimes Bertie will just
finally have enough and just go for him. But the problem is always
started by Max.

Love them both as I do, I will never have two together again!

I think that half the fun of JRs is having 2 together and we've not
really had any problems before till Max. But then we do live n a farm
and they go off hunting rabbits and things together and have a lovely
time. And we never really had a problem with them till the CKC
arrived. Max treats the CKC as being "his" bitch and Bertie is not
allowed to go near him. (But if the CKC starts rogering Bertie then
somehow Max sees that as being Bertie's fault and goes for Bertie).

They *love* people, even if they bark like demons and mostly, they
love each
other but occasionally these furious outbursts happen over the
classic "who
goes first through the door?"!

LOL. I can just picture it! The same thing happens here on a daily
basis. Like living in a 3 ring circus. But wouldn't life be quiet and
dull without the little brutes?

snip

Poor man. I hope he's beginning to feel better Sacha.

Thanks so much. Slowly mending and I hope the overnight hospital
stay is
going to do the trick.

I hope it does too. But there is also another dimension to this. I
always think an overnight stay in hospital is good for a man in any
circumstances. It knocks them off thier perch a bit and they stop
acting like Jack Russells for a short while (at least it's done so
with my husband who has recently retired and is still recovering from
the luxury of having 2,000 staff and thinks that I'll put up with his
attempts at managerial antics) ;-P

On 8/2/07 01:58, in article
, "Farm1"
please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:

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Snap! I have 2 Jack Russells and a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel .

I say it's the sublime to the rididulous - the sublime breed varies
given the circumstances - sometimes it's the JRs and sometimes the
King Chuck.

One of my daughters has a KC bitch - sweet little dog but she can certainly
stand her ground with 'the boys'!

and a wire haired Dachshund that's the problem!
One Jackie and Oscar the whd, are tussling it out for who's leader
of the
pack - or who is second in the pack. Oscar is entire, the JRs
aren't but it
seems to make no difference to the JRs in terms of sheer bloody
mindedness.

I know exactly what you mean about JRs! In our case one of our JRs is
entire and the other isn't. My boy, (Bertrand Rusell Jack Russell -
aka Bertie) has been neutered and is a lovely wee man but he simply
won't let my husband's entire JR (just plain old Max - he's a thick
boofhead but a very good looking dog who has been called on to do his
duty in producing litters for neighbours) dominate him.

Sometimes Bertie just stands there and shakes with his head averted as
Max growls whilst guarding the food bowl or a human's feet or whatever
it is he's trying to be dominant about and sometimes Bertie will just
finally have enough and just go for him. But the problem is always
started by Max.

Our JRs are called Russell & Bromley and they're litter brothers. Russell
is the biggest wuss in terms of overall timidity about things and people new
and strange but he's also the one that starts most, if not all, of the
fights. The only time Oscar (the dachie) growls at the others is if they
threaten his food and that isn't often an option as he could easily
substitute for a hoover at mealtimes!

Love them both as I do, I will never have two together again!

I think that half the fun of JRs is having 2 together and we've not
really had any problems before till Max. But then we do live n a farm
and they go off hunting rabbits and things together and have a lovely
time. And we never really had a problem with them till the CKC
arrived. Max treats the CKC as being "his" bitch and Bertie is not
allowed to go near him. (But if the CKC starts rogering Bertie then
somehow Max sees that as being Bertie's fault and goes for Bertie).

All this sounds very familiar, too. Our two go rabbiting together and
always make me think of small boys who have a tear in their shorts and their
socks falling down and their shirt collars all over the place! They're very
popular here if they catch a rabbit or three, because rabbits and young
plants are not a good combination.
snip
Thanks so much. Slowly mending and I hope the overnight hospital
stay is
going to do the trick.

I hope it does too. But there is also another dimension to this. I
always think an overnight stay in hospital is good for a man in any
circumstances. It knocks them off thier perch a bit and they stop
acting like Jack Russells for a short while (at least it's done so
with my husband who has recently retired and is still recovering from
the luxury of having 2,000 staff and thinks that I'll put up with his
attempts at managerial antics) ;-P

Oh that isn't Ray. He's very quiet and unassuming in his way but at the
same time has quite a commanding presence. It's hard to explain but his
perch is secure. ;-)
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)

"Sacha" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:

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Snap! I have 2 Jack Russells and a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel
..

I say it's the sublime to the rididulous - the sublime breed
varies
given the circumstances - sometimes it's the JRs and sometimes the
King Chuck.

One of my daughters has a KC bitch - sweet little dog but she can
certainly
stand her ground with 'the boys'!

For some reason, that comment made me think of how the girls can stand
there ground with the boys here too.

Our JRs are called Russell & Bromley and they're litter brothers.

I like those names! (And I do know that firm. We named out first
litter brothers in a similar way - they were Bert and Ernie - Bertie
was Betrand Russsell Jack Russell and Ernie was Ernie Dingo Jack
Russell - Ernie Dingo being a lovele Aboriginal man who is an actor.
People always though they were named after the Muppets. Ernie
unfortunately died from snakebite but he got 4 or 5 before that last
one got him)

Russell
is the biggest wuss in terms of overall timidity about things and
people new
and strange but he's also the one that starts most, if not all, of
the
fights.

Sound a bit like Bert, but he will take a lot before he finally goes
for Max.

The only time Oscar (the dachie) growls at the others is if they
threaten his food and that isn't often an option as he could easily
substitute for a hoover at mealtimes!

Our Cav is like that. He dances like a circus dog when he thinks
there is some leftovers that he'll get to eat. Best dishlicker in the
business. His bowl looks like it's just come from the cupboard and
been sanitised clean and the other dog's bowls are too once he's done
his duty and done the housework on them - The JRs wander off leaving
all sorts fo tidbits but 2 seconds of the dishlicker and they look
pristine again.

All this sounds very familiar, too. Our two go rabbiting together
and
always make me think of small boys who have a tear in their shorts
and their
socks falling down and their shirt collars all over the place!
They're very
popular here if they catch a rabbit or three, because rabbits and
young
plants are not a good combination.

Sounds familair to me and that description is spot on! The smiley
faces when they come back looking fat and dirty!
snip
Thanks so much. Slowly mending and I hope the overnight
hospital
stay is
going to do the trick.

I hope it does too. But there is also another dimension to this.
I
always think an overnight stay in hospital is good for a man in
any
circumstances. It knocks them off thier perch a bit and they stop
acting like Jack Russells for a short while (at least it's done so
with my husband who has recently retired and is still recovering
from
the luxury of having 2,000 staff and thinks that I'll put up with
his
attempts at managerial antics) ;-P

Oh that isn't Ray. He's very quiet and unassuming in his way but at
the
same time has quite a commanding presence. It's hard to explain but
his
perch is secure. ;-)

Snap! You could be describing my husband.

Just wait till he gets home and then observe, keeping in mind what I
said about JRs. It's a chastening experieince I found for a fit and
healthy and very independent and self sufficent man to suddenly find
himself in a strange place and being bossed by people who know better
than him. My man finally seemed to recognise that he did have some
vulnerabilities - about time.

In article , Sacha
writes

Oscar is entire, the JRs aren't but it
seems to make no difference to the JRs in terms of sheer bloody mindedness.
Love them both as I do, I will never have two together again!


People who don't own dogs often make the assumption that smaller dogs
are less hassle but generally the bigger dogs don't have the 'Terrier'
mentality of taking and maintaining a dislike for another dog They can
be feisty little beggars even Yorkshire terriers!
Bigger dogs don't seem to be so keen to start a fight nor to take
umbrage but I hope they settle down for your sake Sacha!

Best wishes to Ray for a continued improvement, antibiotics can often
make you feel lousy and trips to the hospital are often more infectious
than the primary disease

Janet

--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

On 12/2/07 11:49, in article , "Janet Tweedy"
wrote:

In article , Sacha
writes

Oscar is entire, the JRs aren't but it
seems to make no difference to the JRs in terms of sheer bloody mindedness.
Love them both as I do, I will never have two together again!


People who don't own dogs often make the assumption that smaller dogs
are less hassle but generally the bigger dogs don't have the 'Terrier'
mentality of taking and maintaining a dislike for another dog They can
be feisty little beggars even Yorkshire terriers!
Bigger dogs don't seem to be so keen to start a fight nor to take
umbrage but I hope they settle down for your sake Sacha!

So do I because they're absolute demons when they get the mood on them! It
seems that the one who is definitely bottom of the pack is always ready to
start a fight when the whim takes him, while Oscar and Bromley are
reasonably peaceable. But no, small does not mean easier! My son's
Alsatian is huge and is the biggest wuss known to man. If you talk even
slightly sternly to him, he flees to his bed and if you bend down to tickle
his tummy while he's lying down he's known for what we politely call his
'stress incontinence'. ;-)
As one dachie breeder said to me, they're not small dogs, they're big dogs
with short legs!

Best wishes to Ray for a continued improvement, antibiotics can often
make you feel lousy and trips to the hospital are often more infectious
than the primary disease

Thank you, Janet. His check up this am went well and they don't want to see
him again unless something untowards happens. He still has to do the hand
exercises, get a final check with his GP and stay away from work for a week.
At lest I know now that retirement will never, as I thought, figure in Ray's
plans. He's deathly bored with no work to do! His greeting on my return
home last night of "It's so good to have you home" was just slightly tinted
by the remark a few seconds later of "It's really boring here on my own"!!
;-)

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)