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"John McMillan" wrote You'll not be very welcome here if you don't want to start an argument. The whole point of this newsgroup is to propagate vile and rancorous arguments. The "gardening" bit in the title is simply a screen. http://www.mindspring.com/~mfpatton/sketch.htm Jenny "~)) |
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"John McMillan" wrote You'll not be very welcome here if you don't want to start an argument. The whole point of this newsgroup is to propagate vile and rancorous arguments. The "gardening" bit in the title is simply a screen. I'm sorry you feel that way John, I personally don't find it so at all except for one or two people and in all walks of life you find a few of those sort that think it funny to cause trouble and be nasty, it's just another form of vandalism. The recent spat totally missed me, as I'm not that interested in Rosemary, that was until someone gave me a "heads up" to what was going on, I was just looking at the threads that interested me as usual, in a world of my own. :-). If you find some people annoying just ignore them, delete their posts, or "Killfile" them. This Ng is about UK gardening the vast majority of the time and even the arguments are about gardening usually, we have a lot of very knowledgeable gardeners posting here, both professional and experienced old codgers, who simply like to help others over their problems etc., chat over the fence, and yes, engage in friendly argument occasionally. Just like an allotment site actually. :-) -- Regards Bob H 17mls W. of London.UK |
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In message , JennyC
writes "John McMillan" wrote You'll not be very welcome here if you don't want to start an argument. The whole point of this newsgroup is to propagate vile and rancorous arguments. The "gardening" bit in the title is simply a screen. http://www.mindspring.com/~mfpatton/sketch.htm Jenny "~)) Brilliant:))) -- June Hughes |
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"John McMillan" wrote in message ... In article , "Cerumen" wrote: "BoyPete" wrote in message ... I've lurked for ages, just posting occasionally. I do hope my pond orientated posts don't annoy. My garden is about 20ft square, nearly half is pond now. Most people here seem to be 'real' gardeners, something I'd love to be if I had the room! I dream of retiring to a large old house with half an acre..........yeah.....dream on. In the past, I've grown carrots, Swede, peas, runner beans, lettuce etc, but until recently, especially sweet corn......great picked and straight on the BBQ :) Now, I only have pots :( Something which bugs me, is the use of the Latin names for plants. I realise that if you are really into gardening, these things are important, but to the likes of me........an interested wannabe, they are meaningless. It would be nice if folk could call plants by their 'common' name perhaps with the Latin in brackets? What do you think? Thanks for a great friendly group. :) Yes both latin and common names would be best but the latin names do serve a purpose in that they positively identify what is being referred to whereas common names can mislead. One good example is swede and turnip, which are transposed by some people in different parts of the world. I'm not about to start an argument about which is which but with the latin names there can be no argument. You'll not be very welcome here if you don't want to start an argument. The whole point of this newsgroup is to propagate vile and rancorous arguments. The "gardening" bit in the title is simply a screen. There is only one answer to this post and that is:- !PLONK! |
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:30:13 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
wrote: "John McMillan" wrote in message ... In article , "Cerumen" wrote: "BoyPete" wrote in message ... I've lurked for ages, just posting occasionally. I do hope my pond orientated posts don't annoy. My garden is about 20ft square, nearly half is pond now. Most people here seem to be 'real' gardeners, something I'd love to be if I had the room! I dream of retiring to a large old house with half an acre..........yeah.....dream on. In the past, I've grown carrots, Swede, peas, runner beans, lettuce etc, but until recently, especially sweet corn......great picked and straight on the BBQ :) Now, I only have pots :( Something which bugs me, is the use of the Latin names for plants. I realise that if you are really into gardening, these things are important, but to the likes of me........an interested wannabe, they are meaningless. It would be nice if folk could call plants by their 'common' name perhaps with the Latin in brackets? What do you think? Thanks for a great friendly group. :) Yes both latin and common names would be best but the latin names do serve a purpose in that they positively identify what is being referred to whereas common names can mislead. One good example is swede and turnip, which are transposed by some people in different parts of the world. I'm not about to start an argument about which is which but with the latin names there can be no argument. You'll not be very welcome here if you don't want to start an argument. The whole point of this newsgroup is to propagate vile and rancorous arguments. The "gardening" bit in the title is simply a screen. There is only one answer to this post and that is:- !PLONK! !PLIP! Every trip? -- Disclaimer Pete has taken all reasonable care to ensure that pages published by him were accurate on the date of publication or last modification. Other pages which may be linked or which Pete may have published are in a personal capacity. Pete takes no responsibility for the consequences of error or for any loss or damage suffered by users of any of the information published on any of these pages, and such information does not form any basis of a contract with readers or users of it. It is in the nature of Usenet & Web sites, that much of the information is experimental or constantly changing, that information published may be for test purposes only, may be out of date, or may be the personal opinion of the author. Readers should verify information gained from the Web/Usenet with the appropriate authorities before relying on it. Should you no longer wish to read this material or content, please use your newsreaders kill filter. |
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"Anne Jackson" wrote Only one problem there, that I can see..._my_ 'common name' for a plant might not be the same as _yours_! Common names tend to vary, depending on which part of the country you're in. AnneJ Nah - don wannabee common do yer :~)) Jenny |
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In article , Sacha
writes A bit like the presant pronunsiation of Beaconsfield, which is a place where they had a beacon, but the 'posh' people call it beckons-field as in someone trying to get your attention, but I always refer to it as a place where there was a beacon! Ray, who is an Essex man, says much the same about people pronouncing Theydon Bois with 'bois' as in French, whereas the locals calls it Theydon Boys! Living near 'Bekonsfield' I gave up years ago saying it as though a beacon :) We also have Chesham Bois and as Sacha says everyone pronounces it Boys! However there's going to be a Time team programme on Bois House in the next month and maybe we'll learn what we should call it from that! -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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On 28/2/07 11:29, in article , "Janet Tweedy"
wrote: In article , Sacha writes A bit like the presant pronunsiation of Beaconsfield, which is a place where they had a beacon, but the 'posh' people call it beckons-field as in someone trying to get your attention, but I always refer to it as a place where there was a beacon! Ray, who is an Essex man, says much the same about people pronouncing Theydon Bois with 'bois' as in French, whereas the locals calls it Theydon Boys! Living near 'Bekonsfield' I gave up years ago saying it as though a beacon :) We also have Chesham Bois and as Sacha says everyone pronounces it Boys! However there's going to be a Time team programme on Bois House in the next month and maybe we'll learn what we should call it from that! I think there's no doubt it was once pronounced in the French fashion but, like many place names and surnames has become anglicised over time. I nearly said *******ised but... ;-) I committed a huge social solecism by pronouncing Belvoir Castle in the French fashion to someone associated with the place - coming from the CIs how was I to know it's pronounced Beevor?! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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Janet Tweedy wrote:
Living near 'Bekonsfield' I gave up years ago saying it as though a beacon :) We also have Chesham Bois and as Sacha says everyone pronounces it Boys! However there's going to be a Time team programme on Bois House in the next month and maybe we'll learn what we should call it from that! Depending upon who you talk to, St Austell in Cornwall, is Snozzle, Sun-Ozzle or Sane-Ossle. I play safe and say "Sun-Ostel" and it's never caused a raised eyebrow. Likewise Launceston, which seems to divide its time between being Laansten and Lawnston. Not being related to or well-acquainted with Denzil Penworthy, I'm never quite sure what to say. There's a bit of a division here in Devon as well. Totnes is variously Totnus (said quickly with no emphasis) or more commonly Tot- Ness. I'm assured by a pal who is from an old Tonesian family that Totnus is used by true local and that Tot-Ness is used by outsiders. |
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In article .com, "Dave Poole" writes: | | Depending upon who you talk to, St Austell in Cornwall, is Snozzle, | Sun-Ozzle or Sane-Ossle. I play safe and say "Sun-Ostel" and it's | never caused a raised eyebrow. Likewise Launceston, which seems to | divide its time between being Laansten and Lawnston. Not being | related to or well-acquainted with Denzil Penworthy, I'm never quite | sure what to say. I used to use Sen-(t)Ossle, with the 't' very soft indeed, but that was a LONG time back. And, of course, Mowzell for Mousehole. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Sacha wrote in
. uk: On 28/2/07 14:19, in article , "Dave Poole" wrote: Janet Tweedy wrote: Living near 'Bekonsfield' I gave up years ago saying it as though a beacon :) We also have Chesham Bois and as Sacha says everyone pronounces it Boys! However there's going to be a Time team programme on Bois House in the next month and maybe we'll learn what we should call it from that! Depending upon who you talk to, St Austell in Cornwall, is Snozzle, Sun-Ozzle or Sane-Ossle. I play safe and say "Sun-Ostel" and it's never caused a raised eyebrow. Likewise Launceston, which seems to divide its time between being Laansten and Lawnston. Not being related to or well-acquainted with Denzil Penworthy, I'm never quite sure what to say. There's a bit of a division here in Devon as well. Totnes is variously Totnus (said quickly with no emphasis) or more commonly Tot- Ness. I'm assured by a pal who is from an old Tonesian family that Totnus is used by true local and that Tot-Ness is used by outsiders. And then there's Dittisham (Ditsum) and Topsham (Topsum). Near Brissle/Bristol there is Almsbury/Almondsbury, Coongsbury/Congresbury, Gloster/Gloucester, Sissiter/Cirencester. And that's without straying "over the bridge". Further afield, Annick/Alnwick is a traditional pitfall, and there's also Lester/Leicester (etc), of course. |
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"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 28/2/07 14:19, in article , "Dave Poole" wrote: Janet Tweedy wrote: Living near 'Bekonsfield' I gave up years ago saying it as though a beacon :) We also have Chesham Bois and as Sacha says everyone pronounces it Boys! However there's going to be a Time team programme on Bois House in the next month and maybe we'll learn what we should call it from that! Depending upon who you talk to, St Austell in Cornwall, is Snozzle, Sun-Ozzle or Sane-Ossle. I play safe and say "Sun-Ostel" and it's never caused a raised eyebrow. Likewise Launceston, which seems to divide its time between being Laansten and Lawnston. Not being related to or well-acquainted with Denzil Penworthy, I'm never quite sure what to say. There's a bit of a division here in Devon as well. Totnes is variously Totnus (said quickly with no emphasis) or more commonly Tot- Ness. I'm assured by a pal who is from an old Tonesian family that Totnus is used by true local and that Tot-Ness is used by outsiders. And then there's Dittisham (Ditsum) and Topsham (Topsum). Not to mention Woolfardisworthy (Woolsery) up Bideford way. |
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In message .com, Dave
Poole writes Janet Tweedy wrote: Living near 'Bekonsfield' I gave up years ago saying it as though a beacon :) We also have Chesham Bois and as Sacha says everyone pronounces it Boys! However there's going to be a Time team programme on Bois House in the next month and maybe we'll learn what we should call it from that! Depending upon who you talk to, St Austell in Cornwall, is Snozzle, Sun-Ozzle or Sane-Ossle. I play safe and say "Sun-Ostel" and it's never caused a raised eyebrow. Likewise Launceston, which seems to divide its time between being Laansten and Lawnston. Not being related to or well-acquainted with Denzil Penworthy, I'm never quite sure what to say. There's a bit of a division here in Devon as well. Totnes is variously Totnus (said quickly with no emphasis) or more commonly Tot- Ness. I'm assured by a pal who is from an old Tonesian family that Totnus is used by true local and that Tot-Ness is used by outsiders. Similarly, Wymondham in Norfolk is Windham and Wymondham in Leics is Wy-mond-ham.. -- June Hughes |
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"Tom Gardner" wrote in message 43.53... Sacha wrote in . uk: On 28/2/07 14:19, in article , "Dave Poole" wrote: Janet Tweedy wrote: Living near 'Bekonsfield' I gave up years ago saying it as though a beacon :) We also have Chesham Bois and as Sacha says everyone pronounces it Boys! However there's going to be a Time team programme on Bois House in the next month and maybe we'll learn what we should call it from that! Depending upon who you talk to, St Austell in Cornwall, is Snozzle, Sun-Ozzle or Sane-Ossle. I play safe and say "Sun-Ostel" and it's never caused a raised eyebrow. Likewise Launceston, which seems to divide its time between being Laansten and Lawnston. Not being related to or well-acquainted with Denzil Penworthy, I'm never quite sure what to say. There's a bit of a division here in Devon as well. Totnes is variously Totnus (said quickly with no emphasis) or more commonly Tot- Ness. I'm assured by a pal who is from an old Tonesian family that Totnus is used by true local and that Tot-Ness is used by outsiders. And then there's Dittisham (Ditsum) and Topsham (Topsum). Near Brissle/Bristol there is Almsbury/Almondsbury, Coongsbury/Congresbury, Gloster/Gloucester, Sissiter/Cirencester. And that's without straying "over the bridge". Further afield, Annick/Alnwick is a traditional pitfall, and there's also Lester/Leicester (etc), of course. How does one pronounce Nempnett Thrubwell, a village S of Bristol)? Graham |
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