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On 9 Mar, 17:20, Anne Jackson wrote:
Strange, then, that I've had rhubarb growing in a compost bin for over
four years now....you _do_ talk the most incredible rubbish sometimes!


I don't really need nor deserve that kind of treatment Anne, I really
don't. I haven't done nor say anything to you to justify this. So easy
on the language and especially the attitude.


You made a very misleading statement, Helene! I was pointing this out,
in my usual succinct manner....

What do you find strange? You've had your rhubarb growing in your
compost bin? I have potatoes, oinions, tons of cascading nasturtiums
growing from my composts and a comfrey which has been in there for
well over 4 years.


What have I said above which would suggests you cannot grow things
from your compost area? No, I haven't.


But you did!! You said "Compost? In a pot? You can't grow rhubarb in
a pot - the roots are very strong and need lots of depth. Compost alone
will not feed your plant enough. It will not survive."

COMPOST ALONE WILL NOT FEED YOUR PLANT ENOUGH. IT WILL NOT SURVIVE.

I didn't invent this....YOU said it!

Growing rhubarb in a pot for several years you would not have the best
harvest from your rhubarb and it's not a good advice. It has massive
roots and you'd end up killing the plant, let alone cracking your pot!.


Helene, away and teach your granny to suck eggs... I wasn't argueing
about the POT, I was taking issue with your statement about the COMPOST!

Easy on the language please or I won't read you any more.


I don't want to read you anymore, but there are some in this newsgroup who
waste their time following up your articles, so, as I read most other
contributors, I'm stuck with reading your rubbish!

Just go away, please!

Alan


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On 9 Mar, 20:27, "Alan Holmes" wrote:
I don't want to read you anymore, but there are some in this newsgroup who
waste their time following up your articles, so, as I read most other
contributors, I'm stuck with reading your rubbish!


Could you point out to us what you have contributed to this gardening
forum, say in the last 5 months?

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"La Puce" wrote in message
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On 9 Mar, 20:27, "Alan Holmes" wrote:
I don't want to read you anymore, but there are some in this newsgroup
who
waste their time following up your articles, so, as I read most other
contributors, I'm stuck with reading your rubbish!


Could you point out to us what you have contributed to this gardening
forum, say in the last 5 months?


Alan has consistently warned members of the group about your serious
problems.
You post bad advice and promulgate myth which is very dangerous.


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"La Puce" wrote in message
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On 9 Mar, 20:27, "Alan Holmes" wrote:
I don't want to read you anymore, but there are some in this newsgroup
who
waste their time following up your articles, so, as I read most other
contributors, I'm stuck with reading your rubbish!


Could you point out to us what you have contributed to this gardening
forum, say in the last 5 months?


A lot more than you!

What the hell am I doing responding to this idiot?

I'll try to better in future, I promise!

Alan


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On 10 Mar, 00:30, Anne Jackson wrote:
Surely it is better to offer no advice at all, than to tell someone
something which is, at best, misleading?


I think you're confusing 'misleading' with one own experience. You
said rhubarb can grow in a pot because you have one growing on your
compost heap. There's a difference. I ddin't criticise you for it, but
it's obvious you are not understanding the difference.

My experiences are only there to be shared, not to be scrutinised word
for word. When you go down the thread, you end up reading more or less
what I have said in the first place. Why is that I cannot say what I
think even though it's the same thing you, and others, are going to
say?

No-one that I know is an expert with knowledge of _everything_ to do
with gardening. The people with the most knowledge tend to be the
most modest.


If everybody was as modest as you think they are or should be, there
wouldn't be a gardening forum to start with. This place is to share
and give advice. I don't feel I give professional advice, I feel that
I give my experiences based on the way I grow food stuff. I don't post
in thread for machinery, nursery grown flowers nor glass houses
because I don't have experiences in them.

I live in the UK, not in Australia. I live in Greater Manchester, not
in Scotland. I think we should all bear in mind where we are and
therefore the different ways of growing things.



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On 10 Mar, 10:43, Anne Jackson wrote:
I did NOT say that rhubarb would grow in a pot, although someone
else did! I said that there was enough sustenance in compose,
to enable rhubarb to grow in it...your powers of comprehension
leave much to be desired!


Ok. I'm sorry. I'll leave it at that.


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On 10 Mar, 10:57, "La Puce" wrote:
On 10 Mar, 10:43, Anne Jackson wrote:

I did NOT say that rhubarb would grow in a pot, although someone
else did! I said that there was enough sustenance in compose,
to enable rhubarb to grow in it...your powers of comprehension
leave much to be desired!


Ok. I'm sorry. I'll leave it at that.


I think that if one was to print off all the postings to URG in the
last 10 days between them there would be enough Bull Shit to grow
Rhubarb or anything else in pots for years to come with enough over
foe a good size garden.
David Hill
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On 10 Mar, 12:48, "Dave Hill" wrote:
I think that if one was to print off all the postings to URG in the
last 10 days between them there would be enough Bull Shit to grow
Rhubarb or anything else in pots for years to come with enough over
foe a good size garden.


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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:48:17 +0000, Dave Hill wrote
(in article .com):

On 10 Mar, 10:57, "La Puce" wrote:
On 10 Mar, 10:43, Anne Jackson wrote:

I did NOT say that rhubarb would grow in a pot, although someone
else did! I said that there was enough sustenance in compose,
to enable rhubarb to grow in it...your powers of comprehension
leave much to be desired!


Ok. I'm sorry. I'll leave it at that.


I think that if one was to print off all the postings to URG in the
last 10 days between them there would be enough Bull Shit to grow
Rhubarb or anything else in pots for years to come with enough over
foe a good size garden.



gRather like the comment from someone in another group referring to
*adopting a scientific tone of voice while talking bullshit*. I thought it
a lovely phrase and kept it (apologies to dorayme who won't be on this NG for
quoting without permission).




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In message .com, Dave
Hill writes
On 10 Mar, 10:57, "La Puce" wrote:
On 10 Mar, 10:43, Anne Jackson wrote:

I did NOT say that rhubarb would grow in a pot, although someone
else did! I said that there was enough sustenance in compose,
to enable rhubarb to grow in it...your powers of comprehension
leave much to be desired!


Ok. I'm sorry. I'll leave it at that.


I think that if one was to print off all the postings to URG in the
last 10 days between them there would be enough Bull Shit to grow
Rhubarb or anything else in pots for years to come with enough over
foe a good size garden.
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries

Yes. I had rhubarb over our drainage pit in Hatfield Heath and it
grew like mad. When I came here, 22 years ago, there was a small patch
of rhubarb, which gave a reasonable crop every year. When I had been
here a couple of years it died. I still can't believe it. I have no
idea why that happened. No-one had done anything to it and it had
obviously been there for many years. Strangely, the peony next to it
died also. Neither has been replaced.
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:30:32 +0000, Anne Jackson wrote
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snip

Surely it is better to offer no advice at all, than to tell someone
something which is, at best, misleading?

No-one that I know is an expert with knowledge of _everything_ to do
with gardening. The people with the most knowledge tend to be the
most modest.



What wise words, Anne! Whilst I understand that someone may wish to offer
advice from their own experience although it is advice contrary to the
received wisdom of experts, I have never understood why someone should be so
eager to give a response to just about everything that they rush to Google,
phone and email their friends, etc, just to be able to answer practically
every query. It seems to imply a pathetic eagerness. I have seen exactly
the same pattern on other groups in the past.





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On 10 Mar, 10:08, Sally Thompson
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What wise words, Anne! Whilst I understand that someone may wish to offer
advice from their own experience although it is advice contrary to the
received wisdom of experts,


So who are those experts on rhubarb here exactly? Anne? Fran? Your
good self? How can you tell an experts from an amateur? If you look at
Mike's posts, he is an amateur but with years of experience. Why then
is he being labelled as 'not a gardener'. What makes a gardener but
someone who gardens. And enjoy gardening with a passion.

I have never understood why someone should be so
eager to give a response to just about everything that they rush to Google,
phone and email their friends, etc, just to be able to answer practically
every query. It seems to imply a pathetic eagerness. I have seen exactly
the same pattern on other groups in the past.


There's no rush to Google but visibly you know what you are talking
about. As for ringing friends and emailing them, I don't even need to
do this - they're there, around me at home and at work. And what is it
of your business if one does this? Sacha is forever ringing around,
emailing, asking her husband .... You are quite bias when it comes to
your 'opinions' or perhaps you just don't think.

When it's about to identifying a plant, then it is indeed a rush to
find out. This is called interest, this is called enjoyment of finding
out. It's fascinating. You learn so much as you go along - sometimes
you get totally diverted. It's part of the learning process Sally.
Perhaps not everybody like you just runs a b&b and enjoy a bit of
gardening and leave it at that. Others are eager to know, to share, to
read others and if there's something to find out, you bet we're going
to find out!! We all have our passion - plants happen to be one of
mine. I also love food, but I don't post in the food forum. I love the
countryside, but I don't post in a specific forum to this. I just post
here and in one other gardening forum (a french one), a literature
forum (another french one) and in a forum of a town I used to live in.
I lurk in others but don't post.

Now if you have something to say to me Sally, just say it and let it
then be. I have no agro with you whatesoever. But do stop pocking at
me. It's like having a draft at the back of my neck. It's getting very
annoying now. Ta.


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Sally Thompson writes

Whilst I understand that someone may wish to offer
advice from their own experience although it is advice contrary to the
received wisdom of experts,

Snip

The strength of this group is that people give advice from their own
experience - that enables us, as a group, to push forward our knowledge
beyond the limits of book advice. So if person A quotes the book advice
'this plant needs a damp spot in the shade' and person B says 'I'm
growing it on sand in full sun', a discussion follows to find out what
it is about B's situation that allows the plant to grow somewhere where
the conventional advice says it shouldn't. If it wasn't for this sort
of discussion, we might as well all simply pull out our gardening books
and never talk to another gardener!


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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:30:32 +0000, K wrote
(in article ):

Sally Thompson writes

Whilst I understand that someone may wish to offer
advice from their own experience although it is advice contrary to the
received wisdom of experts,

Snip

The strength of this group is that people give advice from their own
experience - that enables us, as a group, to push forward our knowledge
beyond the limits of book advice. So if person A quotes the book advice
'this plant needs a damp spot in the shade' and person B says 'I'm
growing it on sand in full sun', a discussion follows to find out what
it is about B's situation that allows the plant to grow somewhere where
the conventional advice says it shouldn't. If it wasn't for this sort
of discussion, we might as well all simply pull out our gardening books
and never talk to another gardener!



Of course, Kay. I didn't mean to imply otherwise.



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Sally Thompson writes
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:30:32 +0000, K wrote
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Of course, Kay. I didn't mean to imply otherwise.

Oh, I wasn't trying to disagree with you, it was that your post
triggered a thought! :-)


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