On 20 Mar 2007 03:20:56 -0700, "Dave Hill"
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On 19 Mar, 23:12, "Alan Holmes" wrote:
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On 19 Mar, 20:44, "p. pleater" wrote:
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Then there is the problme of getting a gun in the first place, and
how do
you get a licence to be able to use it?

Drowning is very quick and reliable, it takes ten seconds to die.

I think you'll find it takes 2 to 3 mins to drown them, from what I
remember from my youth when it was legal to drown kittens.

And you still haven't told me how to get a gun and a licence?

For killing squirrel and other similar vermin you only need a low
powered air rifle for which you don't need a licence or permission from
the police. There is a maximum muzzle velocity set for unlicensed guns.
There's a choice of two calibres......0.22 and 0.175 (I think it is).
Yellow pages will tell you your nearest gun stockist who all sell good
used models and who all offer advice to newbies.
An important point to remember is that it is illegal for your fired
pellet to cross your property border.

p.pleater.

Item from DEFRA publication on pest control
http://www.defra.gov.uk/rds/publicat...cal/TAN_09.pdf
reads
Once set, traps should be inspected at least once a
day. Captured squirrels should be removed
outdoors and then humanely dispatched.

I always check mine at least twice a day.

They can

be run into a sack and killed by a sharp blow to the
head.

Have ouy EVER tried to open a trap whilst the sqirrel is inside it, squirels
have knives for claws and I would not want to be anywhere near one without
armour on, they are EXTREEMLY dangerous.

Alternatively, they may be shot whilst in the

cage, using a suitable weapon. Shooting should
only be undertaken by an experienced, competent
person.

Which lets me out, I did learn how to shoot people whilst in the navy, but
that was along time ago, and I would not wish to make any animal suffer
unneccessarily, but trying to shot the animal whilst it was running up and
down a trap, about 2 feet long will not result in a quick death, it is not
going to stand still whilst you make some attempt to shoot it.

Care must be taken to avoid the risk of

ricochet and traps should be placed on soft ground
to reduce this hazard. Trapped squirrels should not
be drowned as this is considered to be inhumane.

But very quick, and was the recomended method of killing them until the do
good nutters got to hear about it, and they have no experience of dealing
with vermin.

Squirrels are protected from ill-treatment by the Wild
Mammals (Protection) Act 1996.

Drowning is quick and easy.

I have to ask again, have you ever had any experience of dispatching
squirrels?

Alan



David Hill
Abacus Nurseries

Since you are so insistent.
Yes,
I have always shot them. without the aid of traps

David Hill
Abacus Nurseries

Not very clever advertising the fact you are cruel to animals, and
where you live in the same post!

Prat.
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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:50:25 GMT, "graham" wrote:


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And clearly you have never had to deal with one in a trap so the point
about
letting them out into a sake to batter them to death is fiction.

Alan

For the squeamish, one could put the cage in a large box into which is
attached a hosepipe from your car exhaust. There is a species of ground
squirrel on tthe Prairies that are a pest to farmers as their burrows are a
hazard to cattle. Farmers can use some nasty poisons but some attach a pipe
to the exhaust of their tractor and gas them.
Graham


Actually that's an urban myth, and it doesn't work anyway!
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They do make excelent paté

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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:50:25 GMT, "graham" wrote:


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And clearly you have never had to deal with one in a trap so the point
about
letting them out into a sake to batter them to death is fiction.

Alan

For the squeamish, one could put the cage in a large box into which is
attached a hosepipe from your car exhaust. There is a species of ground
squirrel on tthe Prairies that are a pest to farmers as their burrows are
a
hazard to cattle. Farmers can use some nasty poisons but some attach a
pipe
to the exhaust of their tractor and gas them.
Graham


Actually that's an urban myth, and it doesn't work anyway!

Worth a try though?



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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:50:25 GMT, "graham" wrote:


"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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And clearly you have never had to deal with one in a trap so the point
about
letting them out into a sake to batter them to death is fiction.

Alan

For the squeamish, one could put the cage in a large box into which is
attached a hosepipe from your car exhaust. There is a species of ground
squirrel on tthe Prairies that are a pest to farmers as their burrows are
a
hazard to cattle. Farmers can use some nasty poisons but some attach a
pipe
to the exhaust of their tractor and gas them.
Graham


Actually that's an urban myth, and it doesn't work anyway!


Then you should speak to my friend who DOES use the method - and it DOES
work.


Worth a try though?

Of course!
Graham

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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:50:25 GMT, "graham" wrote:


"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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And clearly you have never had to deal with one in a trap so the
point
about
letting them out into a sake to batter them to death is fiction.

Alan

For the squeamish, one could put the cage in a large box into which is
attached a hosepipe from your car exhaust. There is a species of ground
squirrel on tthe Prairies that are a pest to farmers as their burrows
are a
hazard to cattle. Farmers can use some nasty poisons but some attach a
pipe
to the exhaust of their tractor and gas them.
Graham


Actually that's an urban myth, and it doesn't work anyway!


Then you should speak to my friend who DOES use the method - and it DOES
work.


Worth a try though?

Of course!
Graham

I've long wanted to try squirrel stew but have no ready supply. Pleased to
say we get very few around here.

I did, however, read a medical article about diet and CJD, in which it was
reported that two sufferers of the disease in the US had been keen
squirrel-meat eaters. Probably safest therefore not to eat the guts or
brains!

Duncan

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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:50:25 GMT, "graham" wrote:


"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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And clearly you have never had to deal with one in a trap so the
point about
letting them out into a sake to batter them to death is fiction.

Alan

For the squeamish, one could put the cage in a large box into which
is attached a hosepipe from your car exhaust. There is a species
of ground squirrel on tthe Prairies that are a pest to farmers as
their burrows are a
hazard to cattle. Farmers can use some nasty poisons but some
attach a pipe
to the exhaust of their tractor and gas them.
Graham


Actually that's an urban myth, and it doesn't work anyway!


Then you should speak to my friend who DOES use the method - and it
DOES work.


Worth a try though?

Of course!

Years ago, when I used to do a bit of ratting with terriers, we used to
use an old chainsaw (without the bar or chain) running a very rich 2 stroke
mix to drive rats out of their burrows. It used to work ok then.

Tom

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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:50:25 GMT, "graham" wrote:


"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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And clearly you have never had to deal with one in a trap so the
point
about
letting them out into a sake to batter them to death is fiction.

Alan

For the squeamish, one could put the cage in a large box into which is
attached a hosepipe from your car exhaust. There is a species of ground
squirrel on tthe Prairies that are a pest to farmers as their burrows
are a
hazard to cattle. Farmers can use some nasty poisons but some attach a
pipe
to the exhaust of their tractor and gas them.
Graham


Actually that's an urban myth, and it doesn't work anyway!


Then you should speak to my friend who DOES use the method - and it DOES
work.

Out of interest, how long does it take to kill them usiong this method?

Alan

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"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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And clearly you have never had to deal with one in a trap so the
point
about
letting them out into a sake to batter them to death is fiction.

Alan

For the squeamish, one could put the cage in a large box into which is
attached a hosepipe from your car exhaust. There is a species of
ground
squirrel on tthe Prairies that are a pest to farmers as their burrows
are a
hazard to cattle. Farmers can use some nasty poisons but some attach a
pipe
to the exhaust of their tractor and gas them.
Graham


Actually that's an urban myth, and it doesn't work anyway!


Then you should speak to my friend who DOES use the method - and it DOES
work.

Out of interest, how long does it take to kill them usiong this method?

Damned if I know but not that long.
Graham

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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:50:25 GMT, "graham" wrote:


"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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And clearly you have never had to deal with one in a trap so the
point
about
letting them out into a sake to batter them to death is fiction.

Alan

For the squeamish, one could put the cage in a large box into which is
attached a hosepipe from your car exhaust. There is a species of ground
squirrel on tthe Prairies that are a pest to farmers as their burrows
are a
hazard to cattle. Farmers can use some nasty poisons but some attach a
pipe
to the exhaust of their tractor and gas them.
Graham


Actually that's an urban myth, and it doesn't work anyway!


Then you should speak to my friend who DOES use the method - and it DOES
work.


Worth a try though?

Of course!
Graham

I've long wanted to try squirrel stew but have no ready supply. Pleased to
say we get very few around here.

I did, however, read a medical article about diet and CJD, in which it was
reported that two sufferers of the disease in the US had been keen
squirrel-meat eaters.

That's justice for you!


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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:50:25 GMT, "graham" wrote:


"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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And clearly you have never had to deal with one in a trap so the point
about
letting them out into a sake to batter them to death is fiction.

Alan

For the squeamish, one could put the cage in a large box into which is
attached a hosepipe from your car exhaust. There is a species of ground
squirrel on tthe Prairies that are a pest to farmers as their burrows are
a
hazard to cattle. Farmers can use some nasty poisons but some attach a
pipe
to the exhaust of their tractor and gas them.
Graham


Actually that's an urban myth, and it doesn't work anyway!


Then you should speak to my friend who DOES use the method - and it DOES
work.

Bullshit. Tell us how he *supposedly* does this?
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Hi,

what about enhancing the flavour of your squirrel stew with some alkaine, ionized water, generated by a
water ionizer.

It might be just the right tool to get rid of the "I don t know what this is " wild flavour of squirrell meat.

Alex

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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:50:25 GMT, "graham" wrote:


"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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And clearly you have never had to deal with one in a trap so the
point
about
letting them out into a sake to batter them to death is fiction.

Alan

For the squeamish, one could put the cage in a large box into which is
attached a hosepipe from your car exhaust. There is a species of ground
squirrel on tthe Prairies that are a pest to farmers as their burrows
are a
hazard to cattle. Farmers can use some nasty poisons but some attach a
pipe
to the exhaust of their tractor and gas them.
Graham


Actually that's an urban myth, and it doesn't work anyway!


Then you should speak to my friend who DOES use the method - and it DOES
work.

I know a petrol driven vehicle works well for rats in the hen house, but
does a diesel powered tractor work too? When we recently were going to use
this old method which my parents had used on our poultry farm, someone told
us to make sure it was a petrol driven vehicle. I now wonder why.

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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:50:25 GMT, "graham" wrote:


"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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And clearly you have never had to deal with one in a trap so the
point
about
letting them out into a sake to batter them to death is fiction.

Alan

For the squeamish, one could put the cage in a large box into which is
attached a hosepipe from your car exhaust. There is a species of
ground
squirrel on tthe Prairies that are a pest to farmers as their burrows
are a
hazard to cattle. Farmers can use some nasty poisons but some attach a
pipe
to the exhaust of their tractor and gas them.
Graham


Actually that's an urban myth, and it doesn't work anyway!


Then you should speak to my friend who DOES use the method - and it DOES
work.

I know a petrol driven vehicle works well for rats in the hen house, but
does a diesel powered tractor work too? When we recently were going to
use this old method which my parents had used on our poultry farm, someone
told us to make sure it was a petrol driven vehicle. I now wonder why.
It's the carbon monoxide!! Both engines produce it.
Graham

In message .com, Dave
Hill writes

For professional use, you can buy a variety of "humane" squirrel traps
from websites. Peanuts are a good bait. Place the whole trap in water
and drown squirrel as above.

If you did follow the above advice to drown the squirrel you could be
in deep sh**. it's an illegal way of killing. You have to use a humane
method, such as shooting,


I got the idea from a ministry or FC pamphlet.

Can you give a URL or reference for the existence of any controls on how
people kill vermin, other than general cruelty-to-animals law?

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