In article , Malcolm
wrote:

In article , Stan The Man
writes

Don't go for an electric chainsaw

Why not?

Only because the cable is an additional hazard when there are already
plenty enough potential hazards to contend with. The risk of
electrocution is the least of it imho. A far greater risk is that the
cable could catch somewhere and drag the chainsaw out of alignment, or
that it could be tripped over while using the saw - even when following
cable management guidelines. It is also an irritant (as is a Hoover
cable) and any stress that can be avoided when sawing is A Good Thing.

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
"BoyPete" writes:
Malcolm wrote:

BIG snip

Having watched aborealists at work at close quarters outside my
home, I have to say that every thing you say seems to be correct.
Apart from it being common sense of course.

I have never seen one wear a helmet and no protective trousers when
cutting below chest height. Where did you see that bizarre behaviour?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

The team from my local council, trimming trees outside my house.
Bizarre??
--
ßôyþëtë
London, UK

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Chris Potts writes:
|
| Lidl had a small electric chain saw in the special offers about a week
| ago, and there was one left in my local Lidl yesterday. I think they
| were £40. I have a small electric Black and Decker which has proved
| very reliable and is quiet, unlike the two stroke I had before which was
| VERY noisy.

The money for the chainsaw isn't the issue. While even the best
bowsaw is cheaper, the difference between 20 and 40 quid is neither
here nor there. The 5 day course and full protective kit costs FAR
more than that!

Whenever this has come up before, all of the professionals have
confirmed the bowsawyers' claims that using a bowsaw is much safer
and no more effort and time for small amounts of cutting down and
up. While there ARE circumstances when using a chainsaw is safe
without either the full kit (including a kevlar 'overall') or proper
training, damn few people will know when that is so without training.
And a 5 day course isn't justified unless you do a LOT of such work
or are particularly interested.

In this context, it would be useful to know how much such work the
OP is planning to do, in terms of number and size of trees removed,
tons of wood or whatever, per annum.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Gosh sorry! I did not realise that he was wanting to chain saw on a
commercial scale. I thought he might, like me, just need a chain saw to
prune the occasional branch and then to log those branches for his wood
burning stove, and if that was the case then the one from Lidl might
have been perfect. It certainly was not my intention to add other than
sweetness and light to the discussion.


I will shut up.

All the best,


Chris Potts

In article ,
"BoyPete" writes:
|
| Having watched aborealists at work at close quarters outside my
| home, I have to say that every thing you say seems to be correct.
| Apart from it being common sense of course.
|
| I have never seen one wear a helmet and no protective trousers when
| cutting below chest height. Where did you see that bizarre behaviour?
|
| The team from my local council, trimming trees outside my house.
| Bizarre??

If they were using chainsaws with no protective trousers, the council
could be in dead trouble in the event of an accident. And I find it
more than just bizarre that they need chainsaws to trim trees at below
chest height. Which council specialises in such short, fat trees?
I must visit it, out of curiosity!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article ,
Chris Potts writes:
|
| Gosh sorry! I did not realise that he was wanting to chain saw on a
| commercial scale. I thought he might, like me, just need a chain saw to
| prune the occasional branch and then to log those branches for his wood
| burning stove, and if that was the case then the one from Lidl might
| have been perfect. It certainly was not my intention to add other than
| sweetness and light to the discussion.

According to what I have heard, it is precisely the people who do what
you do that have the highest risk of killing themselves using chainsaws.
The problem is, as I said, that VERY few people can judge when they can
using a chainsaw without the protective kit safely without training.

What do you have against a bowsaw? Seriously. What you describe is
precisely when a bowsaw is most suitable.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article ,
Stan The Man writes:
|
| Take a look at Silky polesaws too -- infinitely better than using a
| chainsaw (or any saw) on a ladder.

Indeed. The most common cause of serious injury and death around the
home is falling off a ladder!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article , Nick Maclaren
wrote:

In article ,
Chris Potts writes:
|
| Gosh sorry! I did not realise that he was wanting to chain saw on a
| commercial scale. I thought he might, like me, just need a chain saw to
| prune the occasional branch and then to log those branches for his wood
| burning stove, and if that was the case then the one from Lidl might
| have been perfect. It certainly was not my intention to add other than
| sweetness and light to the discussion.

According to what I have heard, it is precisely the people who do what
you do that have the highest risk of killing themselves using chainsaws.
The problem is, as I said, that VERY few people can judge when they can
using a chainsaw without the protective kit safely without training.

What do you have against a bowsaw? Seriously. What you describe is
precisely when a bowsaw is most suitable.

Take a look at Silky polesaws too -- infinitely better than using a
chainsaw (or any saw) on a ladder.

In article , Nick Maclaren
wrote:

In article ,
Stan The Man writes:
|
| Take a look at Silky polesaws too -- infinitely better than using a
| chainsaw (or any saw) on a ladder.

Indeed. The most common cause of serious injury and death around the
home is falling off a ladder!

And in the workplace - hence the 2005 Work at Height Regulations.

"Stan The Man" wrote in message
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In article , Nick Maclaren
wrote:

In article ,
Stan The Man writes:
|
| Take a look at Silky polesaws too -- infinitely better than using a
| chainsaw (or any saw) on a ladder.

Indeed. The most common cause of serious injury and death around the
home is falling off a ladder!

And in the workplace - hence the 2005 Work at Height Regulations.

Gosh I really started something here! We've just bought a lovely little
Tanaka which was reommended by Broadback. Thaks for the Stihl warning and
don't worry, we'll be very careful!
http://www.worldofpower.co.uk/acatal...KATCS3401.html

In article ,
"sally H" writes:
|
| Gosh I really started something here! We've just bought a lovely little
| Tanaka which was reommended by Broadback. Thaks for the Stihl warning and
| don't worry, we'll be very careful!
| http://www.worldofpower.co.uk/acatal...KATCS3401.html

I very strongly recommend lashing out another 5-20 quid on a bowsaw.
I recommend a good quality 30" one, such as Sandvik, which will cost
you under 15 quid. For example:

http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/gardening-tools/
sandvik-bahco-10-30-51-bowsaw-30in.asp

You will find it quicker for cutting small quantities, and it is vastly
safer if you want to use it in a place where you are not properly
braced or have to saw at an awkward angle.

You can leave it to your grandchildren in your will, too - even if you
use it daily :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article , sally H
wrote:

"Stan The Man" wrote in message
...
In article , Nick Maclaren
wrote:

In article ,
Stan The Man writes:
|
| Take a look at Silky polesaws too -- infinitely better than using a
| chainsaw (or any saw) on a ladder.

Indeed. The most common cause of serious injury and death around the
home is falling off a ladder!

And in the workplace - hence the 2005 Work at Height Regulations.

Gosh I really started something here! We've just bought a lovely little
Tanaka which was reommended by Broadback. Thaks for the Stihl warning and
don't worry, we'll be very careful!
http://www.worldofpower.co.uk/acatal...KATCS3401.html

I hope you didn't buy that one - as a top-handled machine they should
have refused to sell it to anyone but a professional user. It's
designed for use one-handed by tree surgeons high in a tree where space
and movement may be restricted.