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Sometimes you just have to vent your spleen......I will explain.

Over the years, those who are familiar with me here over the fence in
wrecked gardens know that when I am outraged or moved emotionally by
something, I'll most likely post it here. Usually it has to do with
horticultural things. I have discovered over the years that most of us
gardeners are benevolent creatures of various levels of stewardship
towards growing things. We're nurturers and growers and usually
optimists, because we plant seeds, and trees. We sit on cold, snowy
winter evenings (and days) and pore over catalogs and slobber over the
newest tomato or perennial or blooming shrub. We push the envelopes
with zones and plant figs and crape myrtles or magnolia's or lust and
long for those tulips and hosta's that to some living in the more
tropical climates think are just fabrications listening to us up
northerly wax happily about (yes, Zhanataya, I speak of you wherever you
are in the Southwest now happily growing cacti and other desert
things......)

I've anguished over things lost, like my lower neighbor cutting down
three incredible Forsythia's to the ground that were over a hundred
years old. But I'd captured their magnificence in early spring before
his farmer's mindset persuaded him to go out and cut them severely to
the ground. They're coming back, but they won't bloom for another two
years...........and they'll have the last laugh even when he's gone to
his own rest, and hopefully his surviving children will see the beauty
of the old roots as they will have thrown healthier shoots that will be
loaded with even more bright yellow lanterns and they will never cut it
again. I wrote of those shrubs that his wife's family and ancestors had
planted well over 100 years ago when they first laid claim to the land
and made it theirs and their family and kinfolk. I have great grand
daughters of those bushes, and when I leave Fairy Holler, I will take a
cutting with me to remind me of something that I hold sacred in it's
simplicity and tenacity. It endures when we've all gone back to the
soil ourselves. (you always see lilacs and Forsythia's and old
fashioned three flowered narcissus growing where old homesteads used to be).

So why do I want to "vent my spleen" again? Well, to put it simply, yet
another action against something that I grew to love and respect has now
been take away and gotten rid of for whatever reasoning. Miz Mary whom
I've spoken of many times in the past ten years on this newsgroup has
always had a magnificent old iron and thick slat park bench that she
always painted white every Spring. It sat in the special prominent
place of honor of her side yard before you got to the old farm house she
was raised in. Her grandmother and daddy lived in this house. She has
life rights, meaning she can live there as long as she's alive, and as
she would have told you quickly, she had no need of it once she was
gone..........

Over the eleven years I grew to love and respect Miz Mary, I learned she
was the epitome of what you all would know in the phrase of "Southern
Lady". She was hospitality and charm, and quite the character. If you
drove up the dead end road which was named Niles Road for her daddy,
she'd have come out of her cluttered house, maneuvered through the
clutter of her piled up front porch that she'd tell you immediately she
was enclosing and cleaning off one day, to tell you that once, Niles
Road was known far and wide as Mockingbird Lane because of all the
mockingbirds. (they're back now). Much to your chagrin, she'd talk your
ears off, and if you COULD get a word in edgewise, you soon found
yourself hearing her trademark response to your feeble efforts to
respond of her "Like I was SAYING........." Her energetic and generous
character taught me that Spinsters weren't always the stereotype they
were thought to be. She'd quickly put you in your place if you called
her a Spinster (and I did, just to get her fire up) and she'd tell you
that she had dated many men, thank you very much, and had almost married
.....insert names of local men through her lifetime of the 72 years thus
far here, and all of them had married and passed on!!

Her observations of people was astounding, her knowledge of incredible
trivia was also astounding. Despite her incredible and ever mounting
clutter of her porch and home with the trails that kept her from cooking
in her own kitchen, she'd whip up awesome things to take to community
meetings outside on her summer tables underneath the trees. Always
scrumptious and never ceasing to amaze. She'd use me as a
co-conspirator to bake her cornbread for her cornbread salad.....and
reward me with leftovers, and a dessert of fresh ripe peaches with sour
cream and dark brown sugar whipped and lavished on mismatched colorful
plates or bowls she'd find at little shoppes she frequented from all
around. Bric and brac was everywhere, and when my granddaughters
visited, she'd appear with little gifts for each girl (there are four of
them) and crayons and books, dolls, silly little things, bottles of
bubbles, all manner of little things. For the boys in my family, she'd
give little trucks and cars and things that fascinated them. And always
there was the open door of balls and toys in her yard, encouraging the
children who had their bicycles (one year my grand daughter brought her
bike as I have a perfect driveway and road to ride upon safely)to visit
and sit and drink lemonade with her and munch cookies and listen to
stories about people they hadn't a clue who were......this was Miz Mary.
To the 100th power.

That she had this iron park bench with the thick slats underneath the
shade of two 75 year old trees that her daddy planted with her mama, and
you could sit and visit and just look across the miles to the majesty of
English Mountain and the slice of blue that was Douglas Lake. Watch the
trees and see hawks or turkey vultures circling overhead. The stretch
of "Thunder Road" or as some knew it, old Highway 25-70 below to the
south could be seen through the window of trees and you could see
vehicles, and despite that there were more and more signs on the
pastures beyond to the south that the farmlands were being sold and
subdivided, the stars are still visible underneath her sky up here. You
might see more lights across the road where you know it lies a mile away
at the end of Wine Road, but you know you're in an island of peace and
tranquility where deer, coyote, foxes, possoms, raccoon, woodchucks,
chipmunks, flying squirrel, gray squirrel, a huge wide assortment of
birds from yellow finches, blue cranes, hawks,turkey vultures, gray
eagles, Mountain bluebirds or Indigos, hummingbirds, from the tiniest to
the largest reside here and around here. It's called a green belt. At
least 16 acres that doesn't get taxed the same because it lays fallow.

Well, since Miz Mary experienced her many little heart attacks and then
the strokes that wound her up in the nursing home five miles away, her
family have been methodically coming up and cleaning out her home. It
needed it, but lately, I've been seeing a disturbing practice. Miz Mary
will never come home. I grieved this year that she wasn't brought up
here on Easter to see her beautiful dogwoods and azalea's and tulips and
candytuft and phlox all blooming at the same time. Nor see her little
dogwood she'd planted in the gnarled up roots of the 80 year old maple
beside the driveway we share that wraps around the back of her house.
It bloomed for the first time this year before the hard freeze nipped
the blossoms and leaves. And it's a perfectly shaped tree as
well.......Her family have not only been throwing away the stuff she
accumulated, but doing radical cleaning.

I spoke of coming home a few weeks ago and couldn't figure out what was
different, and realized someone had completely cut down her six year old
pussy willow tree that she'd had planted a bit too close to the
foundation. Over a foot thick, I knew it WAS too close to the
foundation but this year, it was glorious and I took cuttings of it
before it "disappeared" and they are now all rooted...........I'll pot
them soon.

Today I discovered much to my anguish that her beloved park bench was
simply gone. And after leaving a message on her brother in law's
machine at his house down the road, I had my grieving spell and went
about doing aimless stuff for about an hour. I got over it but was
still raw about it, and when I told the old man (when I went and picked
him up from the truck stop to bring him home for the weekend) about it,
and his blowing it off to family doing what they want to, I noticed in
the headlights of the van as I circled and prepared to drive backwards
down the driveway as I always do.

Something was missing. And it was huge. I stopped once again at the
boulder that Miz Mary and I have sat and talked many, many times, that I
had bought a reflector to shove into close by so you don't HIT that
boulder as you negotiate the curve to come back to my abode, and stopped
dead. The brights were on, and as my sentence trailed off I figured it
out immediately..........ALL of her beloved (and mine too) pink Acacia
trees were GONE. Every one. Cut to the ground. They were woolly
twigged pink Acacia's, members of the pink Locust family and had
suffered like everything else had with the hard freeze. But underneath
the brown and crispy leaves, I had seen new growth of leaves AND buds.
But now they were all cut down and even the clump of prickly pears that
I'd planted underneath my mailbox that used to sit in the middle of what
was then the growing colony of Acacia's. They had colonized the sides
working themselves eastwards towards me, and I was actually
contemplating removal of the cactus when I realized I'd left a few when
Miz Mary had offered to put up three mailboxes for the three of us up on
this ridge and hilltop. When she had them put next to the asphalt road
for the conveniences of the mail carrier (this is how generous she
always was), she asked me to leave a few cacti to colonize around the
base of the Acacia. She liked the idea of the thorns of the locust, the
huge pink pea like flowers that drove the bees insane with delight, and
my prickly pears in yellow blousey blooms. It's all gone now. Just
scraped clean and mowed to almost bare soil. clipped short.

To say I'm devastated is an understatement. That the man I am married
to never figured out why I was so distraught and upset was saddening.
His rationalizing that the people had "farmer mentality" wasn't correct.
His statements that they didn't know they were Acacia's nor did they
care only proved he didn't know WHY I was so upset. My pleas to just not
speak anymore of it fell on unsympathetic ears, so I dropped it on the
ground and went off and wept.

It was because the beauty was gone, and so was her beloved park bench.
And this was two things in one day that was very unsettling. And so,
I've posted the pictures I took last fall of that peace and quiet place
she'd provided to anyone who wanted to sit and just experience it. and
I've added pictures of last years bounty and last hurrah of her pink
Locusts that she herself had planted..........Sometimes it makes me
wonder......but the gardener in me still drives on. And I will be
vigilant in watching for shoots of the trees coming up from the roots
that lie below the soil and will lift them over and over again and pot
them up in hopes of saving one or two to have for my own, be damned, and
I will plant them at my own gates and hope they tromp down towards the
WEST towards the edge of the pastures.

I only hope that when I come home one day and discover the old family
homestead farmhouse has been bulldozed like I suspect they will, they'll
not cut down the remaining sister sugar maple tree with the perfect
little white dogwood underneath her. I hope they realize underneath the
boughs of this young maple, lies Miz Mary's sweet cocker spaniel, Hero,
whom she lovingly tucked in his blanket, planted a huge swath of bright
daylilies over him and then put up her old mailbox to mark his grave.
Birds have built a nest inside it, and the daylilies struggle with the
reality that they're underneath a maple tree, but the leaves shade her
little dog she loved dearly like a child, and I know. I know soon
they'll probably cut the front maple tree down that is now quite dead
from being struck so many times by lightening last year after she left.

Thanks for letting me vent my spleen. The next post will be of sticky
pots and frustration container gardens..........

madgardener, up on the ridge, back in Fairy Holler, overlooking English
Mountain in Eastern Tennessee, zone 7, Sunset zone 36
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Ah {{{{{maddie}}}}

I understand.
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The world is full of vandals! Some
friends of mine had a wonderful garden, full of all kinds of lovely plants
up the sides of the drive and when they drove past it a few months after
selling, they saw all these half-dead shrubs in piles waiting to be
burned..... If only they'd known, they'd have taken them out themselves
and moved them to their new home.


Similar story with a house we once lived in. The frontage of the property
was just thin uneven concrete. So I broke it up and got a load of topsoil
over the area. I planted a small bamboo to hide the wheelie bin, lots of
Spring bulbs, small shrubs and perennials. Not a large garden but it was
bursting with flowers. After a few years it was a little bit of paradise.

A few years after we sold the property we were out walking the dogs and
decided to have a stroll past the property. Wish we hadn't! The entire front
garden was full of rubble, timber, old kitchen units and rubbish 5 feet
high! It had been used as a skip by the latest owner while doing building
work inside. There was nothing left of the flowers or shrubs. Obviously not
a garden lover!

Norman Digger.


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Sacha wrote:
On 21/4/07 08:13, in article , "madgardener"
wrote:

Sometimes you just have to vent your spleen......I will explain.

snip

I'm so sorry, Maddie. What a horrible thing to happen to someone and
somethings that meant so much to you. The world is full of vandals! Some
friends of mine had a wonderful garden, full of all kinds of lovely plants
up the sides of the drive and when they drove past it a few months after
selling, they saw all these half-dead shrubs in piles waiting to be
burned..... If only they'd known, they'd have taken them out themselves
and moved them to their new home.
Would it help you if you planted something in your own garden in special
memory of your friend - put a seat there and think of her?

You're reading my mind. Today I did a little bit of skull duggery
meself, I walked around her yard (what is left, sadly, it
looks...........SCRAPED) and I saw her pile of her collected old glass
bricks. You know the ones. She'd find these at consignment shoppes and
Goodwill stores for a quarter. She had about six or seven. She had
something in mind for them, and I saw them like she did, so I nicked
them. they were assigned to a bag of rubbish.....I had my own canvas
bag and there you go. They're hidden in plain view in my own gardens,
and I will assign them to their rightful places later on. insensitive
bastages! thanks for the comfort!!
maddie


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On 21/4/07 21:17, in article ,
"madgardener" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
On 21/4/07 08:13, in article
, "madgardener"
wrote:

Sometimes you just have to vent your spleen......I will explain.

snip

I'm so sorry, Maddie. What a horrible thing to happen to someone and
somethings that meant so much to you. The world is full of vandals! Some
friends of mine had a wonderful garden, full of all kinds of lovely plants
up the sides of the drive and when they drove past it a few months after
selling, they saw all these half-dead shrubs in piles waiting to be
burned..... If only they'd known, they'd have taken them out themselves
and moved them to their new home.
Would it help you if you planted something in your own garden in special
memory of your friend - put a seat there and think of her?

You're reading my mind. Today I did a little bit of skull duggery
meself, I walked around her yard (what is left, sadly, it
looks...........SCRAPED) and I saw her pile of her collected old glass
bricks. You know the ones. She'd find these at consignment shoppes and
Goodwill stores for a quarter. She had about six or seven. She had
something in mind for them, and I saw them like she did, so I nicked
them. they were assigned to a bag of rubbish.....I had my own canvas
bag and there you go. They're hidden in plain view in my own gardens,
and I will assign them to their rightful places later on. insensitive
bastages! thanks for the comfort!!
maddie


You're on your way! ;-) I hope it will help you to construct something
that makes your friend's garden part of yours. I'd like to email you
something that might help a little bit so if I may, I'll do that.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)

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"madgardener" wrote after..
Sacha replied to

, "madgardener"

Sometimes you just have to vent your spleen......I will explain.

snip

I'm so sorry, Maddie. What a horrible thing to happen to someone and
somethings that meant so much to you. The world is full of vandals!
Some
friends of mine had a wonderful garden, full of all kinds of lovely
plants
up the sides of the drive and when they drove past it a few months after
selling, they saw all these half-dead shrubs in piles waiting to be
burned..... If only they'd known, they'd have taken them out themselves
and moved them to their new home.
Would it help you if you planted something in your own garden in special
memory of your friend - put a seat there and think of her?

You're reading my mind. Today I did a little bit of skull duggery meself,
I walked around her yard (what is left, sadly, it looks...........SCRAPED)
and I saw her pile of her collected old glass bricks. You know the ones.
She'd find these at consignment shoppes and Goodwill stores for a quarter.
She had about six or seven. She had something in mind for them, and I saw
them like she did, so I nicked them. they were assigned to a bag of
rubbish.....I had my own canvas bag and there you go. They're hidden in
plain view in my own gardens, and I will assign them to their rightful
places later on. insensitive bastages! thanks for the comfort!!
maddie


It's just blind ignorance Maddie, feel sorry for them, they are missing so
much in life.
Seems the world is overfull with ignorant self-centred people these days.

--
Regards
Bob H
17mls W. of London.UK


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Well, this sucks. I've heard you talk about your buddy for many
years. Stinking people. I don't know what to say. Where I live we
are losing more and more and more habitat and open field corridors by
the second as they build concrete toll roads nobody drives on.

I wish I could vent my spleen. It's eating all my blood platelets, I
have cirrhosis even though I haven't had anything to drink in near
three decades and I garden laying down as I threatened several years
ago!

Be glad to be who you are, those people are missing the entirety of
life's offerings.

said with love and sadness,
Veet


On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 03:13:13 -0400, madgardener
wrote:

Sometimes you just have to vent your spleen......I will explain.

Over the years, those who are familiar with me here over the fence in
wrecked gardens know that when I am outraged or moved emotionally by
something, I'll most likely post it here. Usually it has to do with
horticultural things. I have discovered over the years that most of us
gardeners are benevolent creatures of various levels of stewardship
towards growing things. We're nurturers and growers and usually
optimists, because we plant seeds, and trees. We sit on cold, snowy
winter evenings (and days) and pore over catalogs and slobber over the
newest tomato or perennial or blooming shrub. We push the envelopes
with zones and plant figs and crape myrtles or magnolia's or lust and
long for those tulips and hosta's that to some living in the more
tropical climates think are just fabrications listening to us up
northerly wax happily about (yes, Zhanataya, I speak of you wherever you
are in the Southwest now happily growing cacti and other desert
things......)

I've anguished over things lost, like my lower neighbor cutting down
three incredible Forsythia's to the ground that were over a hundred
years old. But I'd captured their magnificence in early spring before
his farmer's mindset persuaded him to go out and cut them severely to
the ground. They're coming back, but they won't bloom for another two
years...........and they'll have the last laugh even when he's gone to
his own rest, and hopefully his surviving children will see the beauty
of the old roots as they will have thrown healthier shoots that will be
loaded with even more bright yellow lanterns and they will never cut it
again. I wrote of those shrubs that his wife's family and ancestors had
planted well over 100 years ago when they first laid claim to the land
and made it theirs and their family and kinfolk. I have great grand
daughters of those bushes, and when I leave Fairy Holler, I will take a
cutting with me to remind me of something that I hold sacred in it's
simplicity and tenacity. It endures when we've all gone back to the
soil ourselves. (you always see lilacs and Forsythia's and old
fashioned three flowered narcissus growing where old homesteads used to be).

So why do I want to "vent my spleen" again? Well, to put it simply, yet
another action against something that I grew to love and respect has now
been take away and gotten rid of for whatever reasoning. Miz Mary whom
I've spoken of many times in the past ten years on this newsgroup has
always had a magnificent old iron and thick slat park bench that she
always painted white every Spring. It sat in the special prominent
place of honor of her side yard before you got to the old farm house she
was raised in. Her grandmother and daddy lived in this house. She has
life rights, meaning she can live there as long as she's alive, and as
she would have told you quickly, she had no need of it once she was
gone..........

Over the eleven years I grew to love and respect Miz Mary, I learned she
was the epitome of what you all would know in the phrase of "Southern
Lady". She was hospitality and charm, and quite the character. If you
drove up the dead end road which was named Niles Road for her daddy,
she'd have come out of her cluttered house, maneuvered through the
clutter of her piled up front porch that she'd tell you immediately she
was enclosing and cleaning off one day, to tell you that once, Niles
Road was known far and wide as Mockingbird Lane because of all the
mockingbirds. (they're back now). Much to your chagrin, she'd talk your
ears off, and if you COULD get a word in edgewise, you soon found
yourself hearing her trademark response to your feeble efforts to
respond of her "Like I was SAYING........." Her energetic and generous
character taught me that Spinsters weren't always the stereotype they
were thought to be. She'd quickly put you in your place if you called
her a Spinster (and I did, just to get her fire up) and she'd tell you
that she had dated many men, thank you very much, and had almost married
....insert names of local men through her lifetime of the 72 years thus
far here, and all of them had married and passed on!!

Her observations of people was astounding, her knowledge of incredible
trivia was also astounding. Despite her incredible and ever mounting
clutter of her porch and home with the trails that kept her from cooking
in her own kitchen, she'd whip up awesome things to take to community
meetings outside on her summer tables underneath the trees. Always
scrumptious and never ceasing to amaze. She'd use me as a
co-conspirator to bake her cornbread for her cornbread salad.....and
reward me with leftovers, and a dessert of fresh ripe peaches with sour
cream and dark brown sugar whipped and lavished on mismatched colorful
plates or bowls she'd find at little shoppes she frequented from all
around. Bric and brac was everywhere, and when my granddaughters
visited, she'd appear with little gifts for each girl (there are four of
them) and crayons and books, dolls, silly little things, bottles of
bubbles, all manner of little things. For the boys in my family, she'd
give little trucks and cars and things that fascinated them. And always
there was the open door of balls and toys in her yard, encouraging the
children who had their bicycles (one year my grand daughter brought her
bike as I have a perfect driveway and road to ride upon safely)to visit
and sit and drink lemonade with her and munch cookies and listen to
stories about people they hadn't a clue who were......this was Miz Mary.
To the 100th power.

That she had this iron park bench with the thick slats underneath the
shade of two 75 year old trees that her daddy planted with her mama, and
you could sit and visit and just look across the miles to the majesty of
English Mountain and the slice of blue that was Douglas Lake. Watch the
trees and see hawks or turkey vultures circling overhead. The stretch
of "Thunder Road" or as some knew it, old Highway 25-70 below to the
south could be seen through the window of trees and you could see
vehicles, and despite that there were more and more signs on the
pastures beyond to the south that the farmlands were being sold and
subdivided, the stars are still visible underneath her sky up here. You
might see more lights across the road where you know it lies a mile away
at the end of Wine Road, but you know you're in an island of peace and
tranquility where deer, coyote, foxes, possoms, raccoon, woodchucks,
chipmunks, flying squirrel, gray squirrel, a huge wide assortment of
birds from yellow finches, blue cranes, hawks,turkey vultures, gray
eagles, Mountain bluebirds or Indigos, hummingbirds, from the tiniest to
the largest reside here and around here. It's called a green belt. At
least 16 acres that doesn't get taxed the same because it lays fallow.

Well, since Miz Mary experienced her many little heart attacks and then
the strokes that wound her up in the nursing home five miles away, her
family have been methodically coming up and cleaning out her home. It
needed it, but lately, I've been seeing a disturbing practice. Miz Mary
will never come home. I grieved this year that she wasn't brought up
here on Easter to see her beautiful dogwoods and azalea's and tulips and
candytuft and phlox all blooming at the same time. Nor see her little
dogwood she'd planted in the gnarled up roots of the 80 year old maple
beside the driveway we share that wraps around the back of her house.
It bloomed for the first time this year before the hard freeze nipped
the blossoms and leaves. And it's a perfectly shaped tree as
well.......Her family have not only been throwing away the stuff she
accumulated, but doing radical cleaning.

I spoke of coming home a few weeks ago and couldn't figure out what was
different, and realized someone had completely cut down her six year old
pussy willow tree that she'd had planted a bit too close to the
foundation. Over a foot thick, I knew it WAS too close to the
foundation but this year, it was glorious and I took cuttings of it
before it "disappeared" and they are now all rooted...........I'll pot
them soon.

Today I discovered much to my anguish that her beloved park bench was
simply gone. And after leaving a message on her brother in law's
machine at his house down the road, I had my grieving spell and went
about doing aimless stuff for about an hour. I got over it but was
still raw about it, and when I told the old man (when I went and picked
him up from the truck stop to bring him home for the weekend) about it,
and his blowing it off to family doing what they want to, I noticed in
the headlights of the van as I circled and prepared to drive backwards
down the driveway as I always do.

Something was missing. And it was huge. I stopped once again at the
boulder that Miz Mary and I have sat and talked many, many times, that I
had bought a reflector to shove into close by so you don't HIT that
boulder as you negotiate the curve to come back to my abode, and stopped
dead. The brights were on, and as my sentence trailed off I figured it
out immediately..........ALL of her beloved (and mine too) pink Acacia
trees were GONE. Every one. Cut to the ground. They were woolly
twigged pink Acacia's, members of the pink Locust family and had
suffered like everything else had with the hard freeze. But underneath
the brown and crispy leaves, I had seen new growth of leaves AND buds.
But now they were all cut down and even the clump of prickly pears that
I'd planted underneath my mailbox that used to sit in the middle of what
was then the growing colony of Acacia's. They had colonized the sides
working themselves eastwards towards me, and I was actually
contemplating removal of the cactus when I realized I'd left a few when
Miz Mary had offered to put up three mailboxes for the three of us up on
this ridge and hilltop. When she had them put next to the asphalt road
for the conveniences of the mail carrier (this is how generous she
always was), she asked me to leave a few cacti to colonize around the
base of the Acacia. She liked the idea of the thorns of the locust, the
huge pink pea like flowers that drove the bees insane with delight, and
my prickly pears in yellow blousey blooms. It's all gone now. Just
scraped clean and mowed to almost bare soil. clipped short.

To say I'm devastated is an understatement. That the man I am married
to never figured out why I was so distraught and upset was saddening.
His rationalizing that the people had "farmer mentality" wasn't correct.
His statements that they didn't know they were Acacia's nor did they
care only proved he didn't know WHY I was so upset. My pleas to just not
speak anymore of it fell on unsympathetic ears, so I dropped it on the
ground and went off and wept.

It was because the beauty was gone, and so was her beloved park bench.
And this was two things in one day that was very unsettling. And so,
I've posted the pictures I took last fall of that peace and quiet place
she'd provided to anyone who wanted to sit and just experience it. and
I've added pictures of last years bounty and last hurrah of her pink
Locusts that she herself had planted..........Sometimes it makes me
wonder......but the gardener in me still drives on. And I will be
vigilant in watching for shoots of the trees coming up from the roots
that lie below the soil and will lift them over and over again and pot
them up in hopes of saving one or two to have for my own, be damned, and
I will plant them at my own gates and hope they tromp down towards the
WEST towards the edge of the pastures.

I only hope that when I come home one day and discover the old family
homestead farmhouse has been bulldozed like I suspect they will, they'll
not cut down the remaining sister sugar maple tree with the perfect
little white dogwood underneath her. I hope they realize underneath the
boughs of this young maple, lies Miz Mary's sweet cocker spaniel, Hero,
whom she lovingly tucked in his blanket, planted a huge swath of bright
daylilies over him and then put up her old mailbox to mark his grave.
Birds have built a nest inside it, and the daylilies struggle with the
reality that they're underneath a maple tree, but the leaves shade her
little dog she loved dearly like a child, and I know. I know soon
they'll probably cut the front maple tree down that is now quite dead
from being struck so many times by lightening last year after she left.

Thanks for letting me vent my spleen. The next post will be of sticky
pots and frustration container gardens..........

madgardener, up on the ridge, back in Fairy Holler, overlooking English
Mountain in Eastern Tennessee, zone 7, Sunset zone 36


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Be glad to be who you are, those people are missing the entirety of
life's offerings.

said with love and sadness,
Veet



"They paved paradise and put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique, and a swingin' hot spot
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot . . ."

(Big Yellow Taxi, Joni Mitchell)

- Bill
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In article ,
Jangchub wrote:

Be glad to be who you are, those people are missing the entirety of
life's offerings.

said with love and sadness,
Veet



"They paved paradise and put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique, and a swingin' hot spot
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot . . ."

(Big Yellow Taxi, Joni Mitchell)

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


Your letter almost made me cry: everyone has already said what I would
have, only much better ...

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On Apr 21, 3:13 am, madgardener wrote:
Sometimes you just have to vent your spleen......I will explain.


Oh, Maddie, what a terrible thing! Someone took down the trees?!?
Why? How sad. And the bench going missing, I sincerely hope it
wasn't vandalizement. Nothing is safe anymore. By the way, I will
have baby hemlocks for you this week? Is that okay? I'll bring them
down there.

dancing in my mind,
gloria in sunny hemlock hollow

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On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:51:42 -0700, William Rose
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In article ,
Jangchub wrote:

Be glad to be who you are, those people are missing the entirety of
life's offerings.

said with love and sadness,
Veet



"They paved paradise and put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique, and a swingin' hot spot
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot . . ."

(Big Yellow Taxi, Joni Mitchell)

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


In America you'll get food to eat
Won't have to run through the jungle
And scuff up your feet
You'll just sing about Jesus and drink wine all day
It's great to be an American

Ain't no lions or tigers ain't no mamba snake
Just the sweet watermelon and the buckwheat cake
Ev'rybody is as happy as a man can be
Climb aboard little wog sail away with me

Sail away sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay
Sail away-sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay

In America every man is free
To take care of his home and his family
You'll be as happy as a monkey in a monkey tree
You're all gonna be an American

Sail away sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay
Sail away-sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay

Randy Newman
Sail Away
Sail Away album, when they were called albums, about the great fat lie
lovely Americans told the African's on the slave ships as they landed
in Charleston Bay.

Poof.
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:51:42 -0700, William Rose
wrote:

In article ,
Jangchub wrote:

Be glad to be who you are, those people are missing the entirety of
life's offerings.

said with love and sadness,
Veet



"They paved paradise and put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique, and a swingin' hot spot
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot . . ."

(Big Yellow Taxi, Joni Mitchell)

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


In America you'll get food to eat
Won't have to run through the jungle
And scuff up your feet
You'll just sing about Jesus and drink wine all day
It's great to be an American

Ain't no lions or tigers ain't no mamba snake
Just the sweet watermelon and the buckwheat cake
Ev'rybody is as happy as a man can be
Climb aboard little wog sail away with me

Sail away sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay
Sail away-sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay

In America every man is free
To take care of his home and his family
You'll be as happy as a monkey in a monkey tree
You're all gonna be an American

Sail away sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay
Sail away-sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay

Randy Newman
Sail Away
Sail Away album, when they were called albums, about the great fat lie
lovely Americans told the African's on the slave ships as they landed
in Charleston Bay.

Poof.


I'm not sure that lies were needed when the newly enslaved were
enchained, starving, and packed in like sardines in the holds of the
tall ships that delivered them to the Americas.
To keep it in perspective though, remember that white people were
messin' over white people long before they got the chance to mess over
black people.
Strangely enough, when white people first met black people, they saw
each other's humanity first. Prejudice had to be learned (A People's
History of the United States - by Howard Zinn). This wasn't true of the
Spaniards and the Arowacs though. A gentle, loving people were butchered
in the hopes of finding riches.
You don't need a "time machine" to see that we already live in an age of
Eloids and Morlochs.

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)
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On Apr 21, 3:13 am, madgardener wrote:
Sometimes you just have to vent your spleen......I will explain.


Oh, Maddie, what a terrible thing! Someone took down the trees?!?
Why? How sad. And the bench going missing, I sincerely hope it
wasn't vandalizement. Nothing is safe anymore. By the way, I will
have baby hemlocks for you this week? Is that okay? I'll bring them
down there.

dancing in my mind,
gloria in sunny hemlock hollow


yeppers, bring em down but call me first, I'll be out gardening and
huntin' fer jobs................
maddie
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 16:56:56 -0700, William Rose
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I'm not sure that lies were needed when the newly enslaved were
enchained, starving, and packed in like sardines in the holds of the
tall ships that delivered them to the Americas.
To keep it in perspective though, remember that white people were
messin' over white people long before they got the chance to mess over
black people.
Strangely enough, when white people first met black people, they saw
each other's humanity first. Prejudice had to be learned (A People's
History of the United States - by Howard Zinn). This wasn't true of the
Spaniards and the Arowacs though. A gentle, loving people were butchered
in the hopes of finding riches.
You don't need a "time machine" to see that we already live in an age of
Eloids and Morlochs.

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


I now get these moments now and then which tells me the end of the
planet isn't far away. Maybe a thousand years and everything will be
dead from on thing or another.

The political clime at the moment in the United States, where I
reside, is hideous. I am a conscientious objector to the entire
current administrationl I hope the rest of the world realizes not all
American's are like the dummards in politics. I think when we retire,
it will be to Cancun, Mexico, Belize or Costa Rica.

What is the feeling about Americans these days in Europe?

Victoria
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