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"Tomorite"
I always feed my tomatoes and invariably buy Tomorite - which always
appears to be more expensive than alternatives. I'd be interested in other's views of the alternatives B&Q own etc - or is it even feasible to make up your own from basic materials? |
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In article , judith
writes I always feed my tomatoes and invariably buy Tomorite - which always appears to be more expensive than alternatives. I'd be interested in other's views of the alternatives B&Q own etc - Expensive tat when compared to the real thing. or is it even feasible to make up your own from basic materials? Indeed it is. Sunshine, water and lashings of compost, works wonders for plants it does and is mostly free. -- steve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features |
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"steve auvache" wrote in message ... In article , judith writes I always feed my tomatoes and invariably buy Tomorite - which always appears to be more expensive than alternatives. I'd be interested in other's views of the alternatives B&Q own etc - Expensive tat when compared to the real thing. The "Real Thing" being? or is it even feasible to make up your own from basic materials? Indeed it is. Sunshine, water and lashings of compost, works wonders for plants it does and is mostly free. Compost........Usually available after prolonged garden debris removal and worm infestation, bugs and aeration. For those that don't have such a fine facility then Tomorite works fine. By early Feb I should have around 4 cubic metres of rotted cuttings, horse shyte and other waste ready to dig in........until then.....Tomoriting the tom's is happening. |
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In article , R
writes "steve auvache" wrote in message ... In article , judith writes I always feed my tomatoes and invariably buy Tomorite - which always appears to be more expensive than alternatives. I'd be interested in other's views of the alternatives B&Q own etc - Expensive tat when compared to the real thing. The "Real Thing" being? Compost... You seem to have answered your own question. I appreciate that the new vegetable gardener working without the benefit of the free gifts of nature from previous seasons may have little or no access to this wonder stuff and thus be tempted to supplement what the plant is perfectly well equipped to remove from the soil with equally perfectly good chemicals from a box. I can even understand them succumbing to temptation and actually using these chemicals from a box and wondering at the miraculous effects they achieve, in the short term. However, continuing to tread such a path is dangerous and may lead to reliance upon chemicals in a box which is A Bad Thing. Much better they concentrate their time, money and effort improving their basic growing medium in ways which benefit not just a single crop in the here and now but anything which may follow for a number of years to come and the immediately adjacent environment as a bonus. Chemicals work, I have no argument to offer against this but they only do a single, limited and expensive job. When considered in the longer term compost works better. I recommend the benefits of it over any short term gains purchased from other sources. Of course, having used the chemicals properly and thus gained the short term benefits from them, if they then compost the box the chemicals came in then it is a different matter entirely. It is war out there and while Chemical Warfare is fine when used against the enemy it is intolerable to use it on those you are trying to protect, only the very best is good enough for them. -- steve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features |
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"judith" wrote in message
... I always feed my tomatoes and invariably buy Tomorite - which always appears to be more expensive than alternatives. I'd be interested in other's views of the alternatives B&Q own etc - or is it even feasible to make up your own from basic materials? You do not say how well your tomatoes fare on Tomerite. It is regarded as a well balanced tomato feed and one which I always used to very good effect. It's a bit like making a curry. I put my faith in an expert and use sauce from a jar rather than spend hours doing my own mix and probably failing. Basic materials cost quite a lot and they degrade over time. Regards, Emrys Davies. Regards, Emrys Davies. |
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"Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "judith" wrote in message ... I always feed my tomatoes and invariably buy Tomorite - which always appears to be more expensive than alternatives. I'd be interested in other's views of the alternatives B&Q own etc - or is it even feasible to make up your own from basic materials? You do not say how well your tomatoes fare on Tomerite. It is regarded as a well balanced tomato feed and one which I always used to very good effect. It's a bit like making a curry. I put my faith in an expert and use sauce from a jar rather than spend hours doing my own mix and probably failing. Basic materials cost quite a lot and they degrade over time. Regards, Emrys Davies. Regards, Emrys Davies. Sauce from a jar, huh? And you expect us to take your gardening advice seriously?! ;-) |
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louisxiv wrote:
"Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "judith" wrote in message ... I always feed my tomatoes and invariably buy Tomorite - which always appears to be more expensive than alternatives. I'd be interested in other's views of the alternatives B&Q own etc - or is it even feasible to make up your own from basic materials? You do not say how well your tomatoes fare on Tomerite. It is regarded as a well balanced tomato feed and one which I always used to very good effect. It's a bit like making a curry. I put my faith in an expert and use sauce from a jar rather than spend hours doing my own mix and probably failing. Basic materials cost quite a lot and they degrade over time. Regards, Emrys Davies. Regards, Emrys Davies. Sauce from a jar, huh? And you expect us to take your gardening advice seriously?! ;-) Most of my sauce comes out of a bottle!! ;-) |
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"judith" wrote in message ... I always feed my tomatoes and invariably buy Tomorite - which always appears to be more expensive than alternatives. I've never used it and my tomatoes always taste fine. I'd be interested in other's views of the alternatives B&Q own etc - or is it even feasible to make up your own from basic materials? |
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judith wrote:
I always feed my tomatoes and invariably buy Tomorite - which always appears to be more expensive than alternatives. I'd be interested in other's views of the alternatives B&Q own etc - or is it even feasible to make up your own from basic materials? Tomorite is inorganic isn't it ? You may as well buy your tomatoes in the Supermarket. Choose the very best heritage varieties and grow them organically. Mine grow on organic soil in good heart, and are fed liquid seaweed extract.The result is a tomato without equal. |
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:20:55 +0100, Sam wrote and
included this (or some of this): Tomorite is inorganic isn't it ? You may as well buy your tomatoes in the Supermarket. Choose the very best heritage varieties and grow them organically. Mine grow on organic soil in good heart, and are fed liquid seaweed extract.The result is a tomato without equal. Mine grow in greenhouse soil (well-sterilised) then liberally laced with 6X. (Concentrated natural fertiliser, 3 bags in an 8x10' greenhouse) I wash in a bit more 6X when fruiting starts to set and I water in All-Purpose Miracle-Gro once or twice a week. I'm well happy with the yields and especially with the taste. (11 varieties, 18 plants in total) The cucumbers love it, too (I've picked about 30 from 3 plants so far) -- ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°³ |
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I always feed my tomatoes and invariably buy Tomorite - which always appears to be more expensive than alternatives. The exact same question came up on another forum. So I posted the following :- I have just visited my local Homebase and recorded the figures from all their fertilisers for sale. the columns below are, manufacturer, product, NPK ratio, and cost in £ per kilo of active ingredient. I have added the N, P and K together to give a total of active ingredients. The results are := Plant feed JAB --------- Sulphate of Potash 1.3kg --- 0,0,48 ------ 3.67 JAB ----------Growmore - 4kg ------------ 7,7,7 ------- 4.75 Bayer --------Phostrogen - 1.25kg ------- 14,10,27 ---- 5.47 Bayer ------- Phostrogen - 2kg ---------- 14,10,27 ----- 5.87 Miraclegrow - all purpose - 2kg ----------- 24,8,16 ------ 6.24 Miraclegrow - all purpose - 1kg ----------- 24,8,16 ------ 7.27 JAB --------- Blood, fish and bone - 4kg -- 5,5,6.5 ------ 7.56 JAB --------- Sulphate of ammonia - 1kg -- 21,0,0 ----- 10.90 Westland ---- liquid - 2 litre -------------- 5,2.5,10 ---- 11.40 JAB ----------Bone meal - 4kg ------------ 3.5,7,0 ----- 11.88 Bio --------- Top rose - liquid - 1 litre ---- 5,6,12 ------ 13.00 Miraclegrow - slow release - 1 kg ----------18,9,11 ----- 13.13 Homebase --- tomato feed - liquid - 2 litre -3.9,2.6,7.7 -- 17.57 Levington --- Tomorite - liquid - l litre ----- 4,4.5,8 ------ 21.15 Miraclegrow - slow release tablets 165 g ---10,11,18 ----- 62.00 Miraclegrow - liquid feed - 0.57 litre ------ 12,4,8 -------- 73.03 Lawn feed - virtually all nitrogen. Miraclegrow - lawn feed - liquid - 2 litre - 36,6,6 --- 8.32 Miraclegrow - lawn feed - liquid - 1 litre - 36,6,6 --- 10.40 Evergreen --- lawn feed - liquid - 1 litre - 24,0,0 --- 24.96 Evergreen --- lawn feed - spray - 100 cc 27,0,1 --- 213.93 You can pay anything from about £5 per kilo to over £200 per kilo. The choice is yours. Be aware that the NPK values differ. Some like the Sulphate of Potash are very specialised being pure potassium. You need to get the balance right for your purpose. The absolute NPK figures tell you how much the active ingredients cost you. But the balance between them tells you in what way they will help your plants to grow. There is probably no difference in cost betweeb N,P and K as chemicals, so the difference in price will be due to marketing. The answer to your question as why Tomerite (mine was £3.49) is so expensive, is that it is a liquid. You are mostly paying for water. Phostrogen is a quarter of the price, and just as good. |
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:20:23 GMT, "Peter Sutton"
wrote: I always feed my tomatoes and invariably buy Tomorite - which always appears to be more expensive than alternatives. The exact same question came up on another forum. So I posted the following :- I have just visited my local Homebase and recorded the figures from all their fertilisers for sale. the columns below are, manufacturer, product, NPK ratio, and cost in £ per kilo of active ingredient. I have added the N, P and K together to give a total of active ingredients. The results are := Plant feed JAB --------- Sulphate of Potash 1.3kg --- 0,0,48 ------ 3.67 JAB ----------Growmore - 4kg ------------ 7,7,7 ------- 4.75 Bayer --------Phostrogen - 1.25kg ------- 14,10,27 ---- 5.47 Bayer ------- Phostrogen - 2kg ---------- 14,10,27 ----- 5.87 Miraclegrow - all purpose - 2kg ----------- 24,8,16 ------ 6.24 Miraclegrow - all purpose - 1kg ----------- 24,8,16 ------ 7.27 JAB --------- Blood, fish and bone - 4kg -- 5,5,6.5 ------ 7.56 JAB --------- Sulphate of ammonia - 1kg -- 21,0,0 ----- 10.90 Westland ---- liquid - 2 litre -------------- 5,2.5,10 ---- 11.40 JAB ----------Bone meal - 4kg ------------ 3.5,7,0 ----- 11.88 Bio --------- Top rose - liquid - 1 litre ---- 5,6,12 ------ 13.00 Miraclegrow - slow release - 1 kg ----------18,9,11 ----- 13.13 Homebase --- tomato feed - liquid - 2 litre -3.9,2.6,7.7 -- 17.57 Levington --- Tomorite - liquid - l litre ----- 4,4.5,8 ------ 21.15 Miraclegrow - slow release tablets 165 g ---10,11,18 ----- 62.00 Miraclegrow - liquid feed - 0.57 litre ------ 12,4,8 -------- 73.03 Lawn feed - virtually all nitrogen. Miraclegrow - lawn feed - liquid - 2 litre - 36,6,6 --- 8.32 Miraclegrow - lawn feed - liquid - 1 litre - 36,6,6 --- 10.40 Evergreen --- lawn feed - liquid - 1 litre - 24,0,0 --- 24.96 Evergreen --- lawn feed - spray - 100 cc 27,0,1 --- 213.93 You can pay anything from about £5 per kilo to over £200 per kilo. The choice is yours. Be aware that the NPK values differ. Some like the Sulphate of Potash are very specialised being pure potassium. You need to get the balance right for your purpose. The absolute NPK figures tell you how much the active ingredients cost you. But the balance between them tells you in what way they will help your plants to grow. There is probably no difference in cost betweeb N,P and K as chemicals, so the difference in price will be due to marketing. The answer to your question as why Tomerite (mine was £3.49) is so expensive, is that it is a liquid. You are mostly paying for water. Phostrogen is a quarter of the price, and just as good. That is excellent - well done sir - just what I wanted |
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judith wrote:
The answer to your question as why Tomerite (mine was £3.49) is so expensive, is that it is a liquid. You are mostly paying for water. Phostrogen is a quarter of the price, and just as good. That is excellent - well done sir - just what I wanted Yes. Just stick to good ole Phostrogen. The only thing is that it tends to cause big leaves with Toms. I'd buy a bag of potash from the garden centre, and add a small pinch of that to the phostrogen, every 2 or 3 waterings. |
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My tomorite which I bought from the lotty store was 60p for two pints -
bargain! "Peter Sutton" wrote in message ... I always feed my tomatoes and invariably buy Tomorite - which always appears to be more expensive than alternatives. The exact same question came up on another forum. So I posted the following :- I have just visited my local Homebase and recorded the figures from all their fertilisers for sale. the columns below are, manufacturer, product, NPK ratio, and cost in £ per kilo of active ingredient. I have added the N, P and K together to give a total of active ingredients. The results are := Plant feed JAB --------- Sulphate of Potash 1.3kg --- 0,0,48 ------ 3.67 JAB ----------Growmore - 4kg ------------ 7,7,7 ------- 4.75 Bayer --------Phostrogen - 1.25kg ------- 14,10,27 ---- 5.47 Bayer ------- Phostrogen - 2kg ---------- 14,10,27 ----- 5.87 Miraclegrow - all purpose - 2kg ----------- 24,8,16 ------ 6.24 Miraclegrow - all purpose - 1kg ----------- 24,8,16 ------ 7.27 JAB --------- Blood, fish and bone - 4kg -- 5,5,6.5 ------ 7.56 JAB --------- Sulphate of ammonia - 1kg -- 21,0,0 ----- 10.90 Westland ---- liquid - 2 litre -------------- 5,2.5,10 ---- 11.40 JAB ----------Bone meal - 4kg ------------ 3.5,7,0 ----- 11.88 Bio --------- Top rose - liquid - 1 litre ---- 5,6,12 ------ 13.00 Miraclegrow - slow release - 1 kg ----------18,9,11 ----- 13.13 Homebase --- tomato feed - liquid - 2 litre -3.9,2.6,7.7 -- 17.57 Levington --- Tomorite - liquid - l litre ----- 4,4.5,8 ------ 21.15 Miraclegrow - slow release tablets 165 g ---10,11,18 ----- 62.00 Miraclegrow - liquid feed - 0.57 litre ------ 12,4,8 -------- 73.03 Lawn feed - virtually all nitrogen. Miraclegrow - lawn feed - liquid - 2 litre - 36,6,6 --- 8.32 Miraclegrow - lawn feed - liquid - 1 litre - 36,6,6 --- 10.40 Evergreen --- lawn feed - liquid - 1 litre - 24,0,0 --- 24.96 Evergreen --- lawn feed - spray - 100 cc 27,0,1 --- 213.93 You can pay anything from about £5 per kilo to over £200 per kilo. The choice is yours. Be aware that the NPK values differ. Some like the Sulphate of Potash are very specialised being pure potassium. You need to get the balance right for your purpose. The absolute NPK figures tell you how much the active ingredients cost you. But the balance between them tells you in what way they will help your plants to grow. There is probably no difference in cost betweeb N,P and K as chemicals, so the difference in price will be due to marketing. The answer to your question as why Tomerite (mine was £3.49) is so expensive, is that it is a liquid. You are mostly paying for water. Phostrogen is a quarter of the price, and just as good. |
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"judith" wrote in message ... I always feed my tomatoes and invariably buy Tomorite - which always appears to be more expensive than alternatives. I'd be interested in other's views of the alternatives B&Q own etc - or is it even feasible to make up your own from basic materials? very easy to make tomato fertiliser, it comes out the back of a horse, you age it and then spread it across the garden. Works well on my tomatos for me. rob |
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