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A hole full of Frogs
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I have an old septic tank in the garden (just moved in) which is partly filled in, but I need to put some more stuff in to fill it totally. When I lifted the cover though, I found it full of frogs (about 15 of them). I'm not really wanting to cause them much distress, but I do need to fill in this hole, do you think they will just get the message when I start emptying wheelbarrows full of dirt down the hole and find a new space? |
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A hole full of Frogs
In article , alanroy writes: | | I have an old septic tank in the garden (just moved in) which is partly | filled in, but I need to put some more stuff in to fill it totally. When | I lifted the cover though, I found it full of frogs (about 15 of them). | I'm not really wanting to cause them much distress, but I do need to | fill in this hole, do you think they will just get the message when I | start emptying wheelbarrows full of dirt down the hole and find a new | space? Yes. Frogs are more intelligent than trolls, and can take hints. You should do it in the summer, as they may be hibernating at the bottom in the winter. Assuming that (a) they can get out and (b) there is somewhere for them to go. But there is a question of whether you need to fill it in completely; if it is on safety grounds, either a solid cover or filling it mostly full with rubble is fine. You might be able to turn it into a bog garden, and there are some lovely plants that will grow only in very wet conditions. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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A hole full of Frogs
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:44:43 +0100, alanroy
wrote and included this (or some of this): Hello, I have an old septic tank in the garden (just moved in) Don't yer kecks get awful dirty? -- ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°³ |
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A hole full of Frogs
alanroy writes
Hello, I have an old septic tank in the garden (just moved in) which is partly filled in, but I need to put some more stuff in to fill it totally. When I lifted the cover though, I found it full of frogs (about 15 of them). I'm not really wanting to cause them much distress, but I do need to fill in this hole, do you think they will just get the message when I start emptying wheelbarrows full of dirt down the hole and find a new space? Take them out and put them into an area of damp undergrowth. At this time of year they're active on land hunting prey, so although they'll have problems finding somewhere new to hide up, it's not as if you're obliterating their entire habitat. If you just tip wheelbarrows of soil in you'll risk burying some of them. -- Kay |
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A hole full of Frogs
"K" wrote in message ... alanroy writes Hello, I have an old septic tank in the garden (just moved in) which is partly filled in, but I need to put some more stuff in to fill it totally. When I lifted the cover though, I found it full of frogs (about 15 of them). I'm not really wanting to cause them much distress, but I do need to fill in this hole, do you think they will just get the message when I start emptying wheelbarrows full of dirt down the hole and find a new space? Take them out and put them into an area of damp undergrowth. At this time of year they're active on land hunting prey, so although they'll have problems finding somewhere new to hide up, it's not as if you're obliterating their entire habitat. They will however head back to the place they were hatched to breed next year so it might be nice to leave a small pond there for them if that's possible? -- Chris. West Cork. Ireland Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you fight with your neighbor.It makes you shoot at your landlord and it makes you miss him." - Irish Proverb |
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A hole full of Frogs
"Cerumen" wrote in message ... "K" wrote in message ... alanroy writes Hello, I have an old septic tank in the garden (just moved in) which is partly filled in, but I need to put some more stuff in to fill it totally. When I lifted the cover though, I found it full of frogs (about 15 of them). I'm not really wanting to cause them much distress, but I do need to fill in this hole, do you think they will just get the message when I start emptying wheelbarrows full of dirt down the hole and find a new space? Take them out and put them into an area of damp undergrowth. At this time of year they're active on land hunting prey, so although they'll have problems finding somewhere new to hide up, it's not as if you're obliterating their entire habitat. They will however head back to the place they were hatched to breed next year so it might be nice to leave a small pond there for them if that's possible? -- Chris. West Cork. Ireland Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you fight with your neighbor.It makes you shoot at your landlord and it makes you miss him." - Irish Proverb Create them a nice home in your garden, and you are a long way towards a good, non toxic, biological control system for slugs. John |
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A hole full of Frogs
"John T" wrote in message ... Create them a nice home in your garden, and you are a long way towards a good, non toxic, biological control system for slugs. John I thought that was toads ... we have frogs. And slugs. Mary |
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Thanks for all your suggestions, I may seek a second opinion as to whether or not I have to totally fill the hole.
I have a second old hole, with a much better manhole, and was told that was safe to leave, and perhaps I could coax them out of one into the other - failing that I'll leave them where they are and try not to jump up and down on hole 1! This new garden has the worlds largest slugs in it, so there is plenty to feed on ... |
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A hole full of Frogs
"Mary Fisher" wrote in message t... "John T" wrote in message ... Create them a nice home in your garden, and you are a long way towards a good, non toxic, biological control system for slugs. John I thought that was toads ... we have frogs. And slugs. Mary We have frogs, toads, salamanders, thrushes, blackbirds - and slugs and snails. David. |
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A hole full of Frogs
On 20/8/07 19:11, in article ,
"Cerumen" wrote: "K" wrote in message ... alanroy writes Hello, I have an old septic tank in the garden (just moved in) which is partly filled in, but I need to put some more stuff in to fill it totally. When I lifted the cover though, I found it full of frogs (about 15 of them). I'm not really wanting to cause them much distress, but I do need to fill in this hole, do you think they will just get the message when I start emptying wheelbarrows full of dirt down the hole and find a new space? Take them out and put them into an area of damp undergrowth. At this time of year they're active on land hunting prey, so although they'll have problems finding somewhere new to hide up, it's not as if you're obliterating their entire habitat. They will however head back to the place they were hatched to breed next year so it might be nice to leave a small pond there for them if that's possible? I must agree with this. Frogs are losing habitat and are in need of thoughtful and considerate gardeners to help them. If the OP can manage to leave a pond in which they can breed he, or she will be doing wildlife a great favour. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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