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Help - Squirrels ate my garden
Kill 'em, only real solution. They are legally classed as vermin, like
rats, mice etc. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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Help - Squirrels ate my garden
Dave Liquorice writes
Kill 'em, only real solution. They are legally classed as vermin, like rats, mice etc. Can you give me a reference to that? -- Kay |
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On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:38:50 +0000, K wrote:
Kill 'em, only real solution. They are legally classed as vermin, like rats, mice etc. Can you give me a reference to that? Wildlife and Country Side Act 1981, Part 1, Section 14 together with Schedule 9 of said Act. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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Help - Squirrels ate my garden
Dave Liquorice writes
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:38:50 +0000, K wrote: Kill 'em, only real solution. They are legally classed as vermin, like rats, mice etc. Can you give me a reference to that? Wildlife and Country Side Act 1981, Part 1, Section 14 together with Schedule 9 of said Act. Am I looking at the right bit? Part 1 Section 14 says a person is guilty of an offence if they release or allow to escape into the wild an animal not normally resident in the UK or which is included in Schedule 9, Part 1. Schedule 9 Part 1 includes grey squirrel. But I can't find anything which legally classes grey squirrel as vermin. Nor anything in here which links grey squirrels with the brown rat or with mice. -- Kay |
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:20:32 +0000, K wrote:
But I can't find anything which legally classes grey squirrel as vermin. I asked if there was a legal definition of Vermin, it appears that there isn't in UK law. However this bit of Hansard from 2003 indicates that it is accepted the grey squirrels are "vermin". begin 8 Oct 2003 : Column WA60 Vermin Lord Selsdon asked Her Majesty's Government: Which mammals and other animals are classified as "vermin".[HL4559] Lord Whitty: There is no definition of the term "vermin" in UK law. In such a situation the Oxford Dictionary definition should be applied. The Oxford Dictionary defines "vermin" as "Animals of a noxious or objectionable kind. Originally applied to reptiles, stealthy, or slinky animals, and various wild beasts; now, excluding in US and Australia, almost entirely restricted to those animals or birds which prey upon preserved game . . ." The Small Ground Vermin Traps Order 1958 and the various Spring Traps Approval Orders, refer to "small ground vermin". Neither the orders nor the Pests Act 1954, under which they are made, define this term or provide an exclusive list of species. However, the following animals are listed under various orders: moles, grey squirrels, rabbits, mink, stoats, weasels, rabbits, rats, and mice. Traps approved under the Spring Traps Approval Order 1995 do not apply to small ground vermin listed in Schedules 5 and 6 to the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981. This means that red squirrels, dormice, water voles, shrews, hedgehogs, polecats and a number of other species are excluded. http://www.publications.parliament.u...o031008/text/3 1008w02.htm I guess stoats and weasels are in the "vermin" list because they take game birds/chicks/eggs. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:20:32 +0000, K wrote:
But I can't find anything which legally classes grey squirrel as vermin. Is there a legal definition of vermin? -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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Help - Squirrels ate my garden
Dave Liquorice writes
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:20:32 +0000, K wrote: But I can't find anything which legally classes grey squirrel as vermin. Is there a legal definition of vermin? Someone earlier in the thread said " They are legally classed as vermin, like rats, mice etc." .... er, wait a minute - wasn't that you? ;-) -- Kay |
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:49:09 +0000, K wrote:
Someone earlier in the thread said " They are legally classed as vermin, like rats, mice etc." .... er, wait a minute - wasn't that you? ;-) Well spotted but at least we have all learnt something. The statemnet should have read "They are classed as vermin, like rats, mice etc.". I am rather surprised that there is, apparently, no legal definition of vermin but then leaving it open means that the dictionary definition applies. What could be "vermin" in one place and/or situation may not be "vermin" in another. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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