In article , Nick Maclaren
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The size depends a lot on the pruning, and perhaps variety. They
aren't big trees like Bramleys, and most can be pruned into 6'x6'x8'.
But I am no expert.



I am worried that pruning is a "no, no" in plums?
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

On 16 Nov, 17:55, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article , Nick Maclaren
writes



The size depends a lot on the pruning, and perhaps variety. They
aren't big trees like Bramleys, and most can be pruned into 6'x6'x8'.
But I am no expert.

I am worried that pruning is a "no, no" in plums?
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraphhttp://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Heavy pruning cuts are to be avoided - lets in 'silver leaf fungus. I
killed a lovely ornamental cherry that way (many years ago when I
didn't know any better). Light cuts should be ok especially if done in
early summer. Have you considered fan-training for a more compact tree?

In article ,
says...
In article , Nick Maclaren
writes


The size depends a lot on the pruning, and perhaps variety. They
aren't big trees like Bramleys, and most can be pruned into 6'x6'x8'.
But I am no expert.



I am worried that pruning is a "no, no" in plums?

I think you just have to be more careful timing wise with regard to
silver leaf disease.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

In article , Charlie
Pridham writes

I am worried that pruning is a "no, no" in plums?

I think you just have to be more careful timing wise with regard to
silver leaf disease.


Oh right - thank you.
I'm going to plant it in a HUGE ex tree tub. That way it can do what it
likes
What about loganberries? Do they need any special treatment, I was
considering them as the same as raspberries.

Janet
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

In article ,
Janet Tweedy writes:
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| What about loganberries? Do they need any special treatment, I was
| considering them as the same as raspberries.

Blackberries are a better analogue - the pruning and thinning are
slightly different from raspberries. Otherwise, yes.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article , Nick Maclaren
writes

In article ,
Janet Tweedy writes:
|
| What about loganberries? Do they need any special treatment, I was
| considering them as the same as raspberries.

Blackberries are a better analogue - the pruning and thinning are
slightly different from raspberries. Otherwise, yes.

Thanks Nick, they are replacing blackberries. I gave up trying to
control a Bedford Giant and Himalayan wotsit as it was easier and just
as good to visit the local pick your own farm. This was I get my path
back

--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

In article ,
says...
In article , Nick Maclaren
writes

In article ,
Janet Tweedy writes:
|
| What about loganberries? Do they need any special treatment, I was
| considering them as the same as raspberries.

Blackberries are a better analogue - the pruning and thinning are
slightly different from raspberries. Otherwise, yes.

Thanks Nick, they are replacing blackberries. I gave up trying to
control a Bedford Giant and Himalayan wotsit as it was easier and just
as good to visit the local pick your own farm. This was I get my path
back


They are a menace! We have Oregon thornless which crops hugely despite
our hard pruning it every year, I know you are not supposed to but it is
the only way of getting in the fruit cage!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

In article ,
Charlie Pridham writes:
|
| | What about loganberries? Do they need any special treatment, I was
| | considering them as the same as raspberries.
|
| Blackberries are a better analogue - the pruning and thinning are
| slightly different from raspberries. Otherwise, yes.
|
| Thanks Nick, they are replacing blackberries. I gave up trying to
| control a Bedford Giant and Himalayan wotsit as it was easier and just
| as good to visit the local pick your own farm. This was I get my path
| back
|
| They are a menace! We have Oregon thornless which crops hugely despite
| our hard pruning it every year, I know you are not supposed to but it is
| the only way of getting in the fruit cage!

As you may remember, I get very ****ed off with the gardening books
that describe pruning assuming that you have a multi-acre garden, and
ignore problems such as the one you mention. What I often need to
know is how I can prune something without harming it, not how I should
prune it in some alternative universe. I had to invent the trick of
treating Clematis alpina as herbaceous from scratch - none of the books
even had a hint!

I recommend the use of a machete for pruning the more vigorous Rubus
species and varieties.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article , Charlie
Pridham writes

They are a menace! We have Oregon thornless which crops hugely despite
our hard pruning it every year, I know you are not supposed to but it is
the only way of getting in the fruit cage!


Every year I resolve to make the new growth into serpentine growths on
the wire but time and season's go past and I never actually get there
before they are too stiff to manoeuvre
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk