Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Sacha writes:
I'm still trying to ID this plant. I think my last try got lost as
I foolishly forgot to attach the url until Anne reminded me.
Trouble is, I can't remember where we took this.
http://i17.tinypic.com/6ozvn2t.jpg

This annoys me. I have seen that flower form before, but didn't
like the plant, and can't remember what it was. This is a much
nicer plant.

My best bet is one of the Caprifoliaceae, either Leycesteria or
a close relative. I have tried to find a picture of L. crocothyrsos
in flower on the Web, and failed dismally, but suspect it is not
that.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

For an image see he
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/125269/

I wondered if it could be a member of the Acanthaceae.

--
Jeff
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On 25/11/07 16:35, in article ,
"Jeff Layman" wrote:

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Sacha writes:
I'm still trying to ID this plant. I think my last try got lost as
I foolishly forgot to attach the url until Anne reminded me.
Trouble is, I can't remember where we took this.
http://i17.tinypic.com/6ozvn2t.jpg

This annoys me. I have seen that flower form before, but didn't
like the plant, and can't remember what it was. This is a much
nicer plant.

My best bet is one of the Caprifoliaceae, either Leycesteria or
a close relative. I have tried to find a picture of L. crocothyrsos
in flower on the Web, and failed dismally, but suspect it is not
that.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

For an image see he
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/125269/

I wondered if it could be a member of the Acanthaceae.

Don't think that's it, Jeff. I've emailed David Poole to see if he can id
it.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

In article ,
"Jeff Layman" writes:
|
| My best bet is one of the Caprifoliaceae, either Leycesteria or
| a close relative. I have tried to find a picture of L. crocothyrsos
| in flower on the Web, and failed dismally, but suspect it is not
| that.
|
| For an image see he
| http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/125269/

I fount that! It looks to me as if it is in berry, not flower!

| I wondered if it could be a member of the Acanthaceae.

Could be.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
"Jeff Layman" writes:

My best bet is one of the Caprifoliaceae, either Leycesteria or
a close relative. I have tried to find a picture of L.
crocothyrsos in flower on the Web, and failed dismally, but
suspect it is not that.

For an image see he
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/125269/

I fount that! It looks to me as if it is in berry, not flower!

Yes, I know what you mean. How about this?
http://www.mygarden.me.uk/june2005.htm

I have one 2 years old from seed, but it hasn't flowered yet. Unfortunately,
it is a lot less hardy than its better-known relative. I tried a 60 cm
(one-year old) plant outside near to a large formosana I've had for 7 years.
It was well-protected by other trees and shrubs, but didn't survive last
year's (mild) winter. Maybe it was too small.

--
Jeff
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On 26/11/07 10:16, in article ,
"Jeff Layman" wrote:

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
"Jeff Layman" writes:

My best bet is one of the Caprifoliaceae, either Leycesteria or
a close relative. I have tried to find a picture of L.
crocothyrsos in flower on the Web, and failed dismally, but
suspect it is not that.

For an image see he
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/125269/

I fount that! It looks to me as if it is in berry, not flower!

Yes, I know what you mean. How about this?
http://www.mygarden.me.uk/june2005.htm

No, that's not what we saw. If you look again at my pic of it, you'll see
that the formation of the flowering head is very tight and the leaves look
more leathery. Leycesteria leaves are quite lightweight.

I have one 2 years old from seed, but it hasn't flowered yet. Unfortunately,
it is a lot less hardy than its better-known relative. I tried a 60 cm
(one-year old) plant outside near to a large formosana I've had for 7 years.
It was well-protected by other trees and shrubs, but didn't survive last
year's (mild) winter. Maybe it was too small.
I wonder if it can be grown as an indoor plant if kept near a window in
plenty of light?

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
"Jeff Layman" writes:

My best bet is one of the Caprifoliaceae, either Leycesteria or
a close relative. I have tried to find a picture of L.
crocothyrsos in flower on the Web, and failed dismally, but
suspect it is not that.

For an image see he
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/125269/

I fount that! It looks to me as if it is in berry, not flower!

Yes, I know what you mean. How about this?
http://www.mygarden.me.uk/june2005.htm

No, that's not what we saw. If you look again at my pic of it,
you'll see that the formation of the flowering head is very tight and
the leaves look more leathery. Leycesteria leaves are quite
lightweight.

The pic was just to show Nick. I agree that it looks nothing like your
plant.


I have one 2 years old from seed, but it hasn't flowered yet.
Unfortunately, it is a lot less hardy than its better-known
relative. I tried a 60 cm (one-year old) plant outside near to a
large formosana I've had for 7 years. It was well-protected by other
trees and shrubs, but didn't survive last year's (mild) winter.
Maybe it was too small.

I wonder if it can be grown as an indoor plant if kept near a window
in plenty of light?

Possibly, but it is totally uninteresting out of flower (I am afraid that it
doesn't look that interesting in flower according to the pic...). And I
have several better alternatives for the premium space! It seems to survive
in a just frost-free greenhouse without problem.

--
Jeff
(cut "thetape" to reply)

In article ,
"Jeff Layman" writes:
|
| I fount that! It looks to me as if it is in berry, not flower!
|
| Yes, I know what you mean. How about this?
| http://www.mygarden.me.uk/june2005.htm

Thanks. Not that, then :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 25 Nov, 16:35, "Jeff Layman" wrote:
I wondered if it could be a member of the Acanthaceae.

I've id the galium aparine as ground cover. The wall and the sticky
willy reminds me not of the Med nor the Carraibes, but more like the
UK ...

I'm not at all familiar with this plant, so I really can't help in
this instance. My first instinct is to suggest it may indeed be a
member of the Acanthaceae on account of the pronounced bracts, but
then the tubular, saccate flowers are very typical of members of the
Bignoniaceae. The leaves and their distribution along the stems
suggest Caprifoliaceae so its a bit of a mystery. I'll pass the pic
on to an acquaintance in Portugal and see if he can throw any light on
its identity.

On 27/11/07 22:37, in article
, "Dave
Poole" wrote:

I'm not at all familiar with this plant, so I really can't help in
this instance. My first instinct is to suggest it may indeed be a
member of the Acanthaceae on account of the pronounced bracts, but
then the tubular, saccate flowers are very typical of members of the
Bignoniaceae. The leaves and their distribution along the stems
suggest Caprifoliaceae so its a bit of a mystery. I'll pass the pic
on to an acquaintance in Portugal and see if he can throw any light on
its identity.


I'll try emailing the garden in Nevis though I'm not over-optimistic.
Thanks, David.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'