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Nick Maclaren wrote:
Both of my daughters did the second world war, including references to the Holocaust. They were lucky then, Nick, in the person who was their teacher. There are some schools where a teacher may declare in the staff room that he or she is about to teach about the world wars and the Holocaust, etc., WITHOUT getting black looks from fellow teachers. I'll leave it to you to consider what kind of schools they are and where those schools might be situated. But I will give you a clue: they are highly unlikely to be state schools in large urban areas! Eddy. |
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In article , Eddy writes: | | They were lucky then, Nick, in the person who was their teacher. Look at my Email address :-) | There are some schools where a teacher may declare in the staff room | that he or she is about to teach about the world wars and the Holocaust, | etc., WITHOUT getting black looks from fellow teachers. I'll leave it | to you to consider what kind of schools they are and where those schools | might be situated. But I will give you a clue: they are highly unlikely | to be state schools in large urban areas! The Cambridge area and, I believe, much of Scotland, are exceptions. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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writes In article , Eddy writes: | | They were lucky then, Nick, in the person who was their teacher. Look at my Email address :-) | There are some schools where a teacher may declare in the staff room | that he or she is about to teach about the world wars and the Holocaust, | etc., WITHOUT getting black looks from fellow teachers. I'll leave it | to you to consider what kind of schools they are and where those schools | might be situated. But I will give you a clue: they are highly unlikely | to be state schools in large urban areas! The Cambridge area and, I believe, much of Scotland, are exceptions. I have difficulty understanding why 1) being about to teach about the world wars and the Holocaust should be so noteworthy as to be worthy of being declared in the staff room. 2) why doing so should be the occasion of being the recipient of black looks. Regards, Nick Maclaren. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
I have difficulty understanding why 1) being about to teach about the world wars and the Holocaust should be so noteworthy as to be worthy of being declared in the staff room. 2) why doing so should be the occasion of being the recipient of black looks. It's because "anything to do with guns and war and killing" is simply wrong, Stewart! Guns, and war, and killing is thought to equate to patriotism, nationalism, jingoism - and these things too equate to each other and are also thought to be just as wrong! I believe the attitude stems from fashion, ignorance, fear, and irresponsibility. Eddy. |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:59:24 +0000, Eddy wrote
(in article ): Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote: I have difficulty understanding why 1) being about to teach about the world wars and the Holocaust should be so noteworthy as to be worthy of being declared in the staff room. 2) why doing so should be the occasion of being the recipient of black looks. It's because "anything to do with guns and war and killing" is simply wrong, Stewart! Guns, and war, and killing is thought to equate to patriotism, nationalism, jingoism - and these things too equate to each other and are also thought to be just as wrong! I believe the attitude stems from fashion, ignorance, fear, and irresponsibility. Eddy. I should point out that as I understand it (check with the BBC if you don't believe me) in England, teaching children about the Holocaust is _/compulsory/, and it is not banned elsewhere in the UK. -- Sally in Shropshire, UK Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church with conservation churchyard: http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:29:25 +0000, Sacha wrote
(in article ) : On 13/1/08 14:19, in article , "Sally Thompson" wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:59:24 +0000, Eddy wrote (in article ): Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote: I have difficulty understanding why 1) being about to teach about the world wars and the Holocaust should be so noteworthy as to be worthy of being declared in the staff room. 2) why doing so should be the occasion of being the recipient of black looks. It's because "anything to do with guns and war and killing" is simply wrong, Stewart! Guns, and war, and killing is thought to equate to patriotism, nationalism, jingoism - and these things too equate to each other and are also thought to be just as wrong! I believe the attitude stems from fashion, ignorance, fear, and irresponsibility. Eddy. I should point out that as I understand it (check with the BBC if you don't believe me) in England, teaching children about the Holocaust is _/compulsory/, and it is not banned elsewhere in the UK. BUT didn't I read somewhere just recently that there is now talk of banning such teaching because it is offensive to Muslims? NO!! his is just one of the many web sites talking about this particular urban myth: http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/holocaust.asp I had to look it up recently because of yet another email chain letter, this time on this particular subject. [Aside: why do people who would not dream of sending a snail mail chain letter think it's OK when it's on email? And why do they never ever look things up first to see if they are true? Rant over g] -- Sally in Shropshire, UK http://www.freerice.com/index.php Give free rice to hungry people by playing a simple word game |
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On 13/1/08 14:41, in article ,
"Martin" wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:29:25 +0000, Sacha wrote: On 13/1/08 14:19, in article , "Sally Thompson" wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:59:24 +0000, Eddy wrote (in article ): Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote: I have difficulty understanding why 1) being about to teach about the world wars and the Holocaust should be so noteworthy as to be worthy of being declared in the staff room. 2) why doing so should be the occasion of being the recipient of black looks. It's because "anything to do with guns and war and killing" is simply wrong, Stewart! Guns, and war, and killing is thought to equate to patriotism, nationalism, jingoism - and these things too equate to each other and are also thought to be just as wrong! I believe the attitude stems from fashion, ignorance, fear, and irresponsibility. Eddy. I should point out that as I understand it (check with the BBC if you don't believe me) in England, teaching children about the Holocaust is _/compulsory/, and it is not banned elsewhere in the UK. BUT didn't I read somewhere just recently that there is now talk of banning such teaching because it is offensive to Muslims? What one reads in the papers and reality are often very different. In what way is the holocaust offensive to Muslims, other than that some of them are being treated as untermenschen by those who didn't learn from recent history? This is what The Times Online has to say: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1600686.ece -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... What one reads in the papers and reality are often very different. Too true. The press reported that Cunard's Queen Victoria was rife with the Norvirus Bug. Wrong. I was on Queen Victoria with all the Family for the Canaries Maiden over Christmas and the New Year. We were laughing at the reports Yes it was on board. But rife? Never. Mike -- www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:59:24 GMT, Eddy wrote: Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote: I have difficulty understanding why 1) being about to teach about the world wars and the Holocaust should be so noteworthy as to be worthy of being declared in the staff room. 2) why doing so should be the occasion of being the recipient of black looks. It's because "anything to do with guns and war and killing" is simply wrong, Stewart! Guns, and war, and killing is thought to equate to patriotism, nationalism, jingoism - and these things too equate to each other and are also thought to be just as wrong! I believe the attitude stems from fashion, ignorance, fear, and irresponsibility. It was patriotism, nationalism, jingoism which led to the totally unnecessary deaths of millions in WW1. -- Martin Were you / Are you / Would you be a Conscientious Objector? Kind regards Mike -- www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly |
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