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The few threads on here discussing the compared merits of various
possible presenters for Gardeners' World have set my mind awander...
Gardening programmes on telly used to be educational, now television
executives tend to put a higher premium on entertainment. And like it
or not, gardening, or at least the appearance of it, tends to attract
the punters. And, unashamedly, I am one of them.
Bearing in mind that the education on how to propagate, prune etc. can
be got on line, from experts and keen amateurs here or in books, what
is so wrong with providing entertainment to the masses through
gardening programmes?
I am quite a consumer of gardening and cookery programmes - mostly for
entertainment, though both give me ideas I often pursue (cookery
programmes more so than gardening ones, by the way). I am a keen
cook, and I am a fair weather gardener. And I love to be entertained
by a quality TV programme.
Say what you like about the shortcomings of the early series of Ground
Force (I hear the rumbles of "Anathema!!" building up amid the ranks
of those in urg who for some unexplainable reason do not believe in
instant gardens), the chemistry between the protagonists and their
individual personalities made for good telly watching.
Gardeners' World has always entertained me, because it was always well
produced, and again because of the personalities of the various
presenters (some good, some that I like less) - though I have not
watched too many of the more recent series - I tend to watch re-runs
on UK TV rather than real times series on the Beeb, generally
broadcast at times I am not watching.
Home Front in the garden was also good in the early days - though both
Llewelyn Bowen and Gavin have become fully paid up members of the
prima donna prat brigade since then.
I loved the series done about "A Year in Kew" - presented by Mr Tit
himself, but good television to me. And while I'm in confession mode,
I admit it - for all his over exposure, I still really like to watch a
gardening or nature programme presented by Alan Titchmarsh.
I used to love Helen Dillon on RTE, though haven't seen her in ages.
However, some of the very worse programmes used to fill up
broadcasting hours on such channels as UK TV Garden have to be among
the most bloody awful formats - like Garden ER (gasp!), Garden Rivals
(yuck!), Weed and Reap (I kid you not - this is a half way house
between house selling and gardening), Garden Invaders (yawnnn!) etc.

Anyway, I like Telly Gardening as entertainment if it is well done,
even if it is not remotely educational, and I need to come back here
to ask how to graft my leeks*.

Cat(h)
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Love your post, Cath, although I have no idea what you're talking about (no
telly but ***** to Mr Tit)!

What's this, though, about grafting leeks?

I've sown leeks for the first time ever because a grandson has grown them in
France and waxed lyrical about their form as they grew (he's an artist).

Never heard of grafting them though ...

Mary


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On May 27, 9:02 pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
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Love your post, Cath, although I have no idea what you're talking about (no
telly but ***** to Mr Tit)!

What's this, though, about grafting leeks?

I've sown leeks for the first time ever because a grandson has grown them in
France and waxed lyrical about their form as they grew (he's an artist).

Never heard of grafting them though ...

Mary


Nor me Mary, where is your grandson in France?

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On May 27, 9:02 pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
"Cat(h)" wrote in message

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Love your post, Cath, although I have no idea what you're talking about
(no
telly but ***** to Mr Tit)!

What's this, though, about grafting leeks?

I've sown leeks for the first time ever because a grandson has grown them
in
France and waxed lyrical about their form as they grew (he's an artist).

Never heard of grafting them though ...

Mary


Nor me Mary, where is your grandson in France?


At the moment he's not, he's in USA, waiting for his African girl friend to
get a visa to England.

His parents (our daughter) live about half an hour south of Limoges.

We've not been.

Mary


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On May 27, 9:02 pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
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Love your post, Cath, although I have no idea what you're talking about
(no
telly but ***** to Mr Tit)!


What's this, though, about grafting leeks?


I've sown leeks for the first time ever because a grandson has grown them
in
France and waxed lyrical about their form as they grew (he's an artist).


Never heard of grafting them though ...


Mary


Nor me Mary, where is your grandson in France?


At the moment he's not, he's in USA, waiting for his African girl friend to
get a visa to England.

His parents (our daughter) live about half an hour south of Limoges.

We've not been.

Mary


Your daughter is not far from me then Mary, any thoughts of coming to
visit her?

Judith


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Your daughter is not far from me then Mary, any thoughts of coming to
visit her?

Judith


We haven't been invited ... we weren't told that they were leaving Leeds.

In 1998 I was diagnosed with and had surgery and other treatment for breast
cancer. It's not uncommon, sadly, for friends and even close family members
to cut one off when that happens. Inexplicable but true :-( Even my mother
did ...

That daughter's daughter is living with us at present while she completes a
college course in Leeds. She had her 21st birthday recently, celebrating it
in Cheltenham, her boy friend's home. Her parents went to Cheltenham and
apparently came to Leeds to visit a brother but didn't come here ...

We've stopped losing sleep about it, life might be too short for both of us
(Spouse also has cancer) so we make the most of every day which brings
rewards. Those which don't aren't counted.

This really isn't the place to discuss such matters but I suspect that
people who cut themselves off from close family and friends with cancer
simply can't cope with it, they don't know what to say. Some of our other
children at least *said* that they didn't know what to say or that they
couldn't handle it, we were able to get over that. Silence is much more
difficult.

I think I'm saying that so that anyone reading this might understand that
even a silent hug of someone with bad news means an awful lot, even if
sympathy can't be expressed verbally.

Life is very sweet,

Mary


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Love your post, Cath, although I have no idea what you're talking about
(no telly but ***** to Mr Tit)!

What's this, though, about grafting leeks?

I've sown leeks for the first time ever because a grandson has grown them
in France and waxed lyrical about their form as they grew (he's an
artist).

Never heard of grafting them though ...

Mary

Tree Leeks ??? *

Derek
http://www.groworganic.com/item_SNV9..._Carentan.html
* did intend to write Bush but realised the double entendre just before
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"Cat(h)" wrote in message
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Love your post, Cath, although I have no idea what you're talking about
(no telly but ***** to Mr Tit)!

What's this, though, about grafting leeks?

I've sown leeks for the first time ever because a grandson has grown them
in France and waxed lyrical about their form as they grew (he's an
artist).

Never heard of grafting them though ...

Mary

Tree Leeks ??? *


Birch sap wine?

Mary

Derek
http://www.groworganic.com/item_SNV9..._Carentan.html
* did intend to write Bush but realised the double entendre just before
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On May 28, 12:07*pm, Martin wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:51:19 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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"Derek" wrote in message
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
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Love your post, Cath, although I have no idea what you're talking about
(no telly but ***** to Mr Tit)!


What's this, though, about grafting leeks?


I've sown leeks for the first time ever because a grandson has grown them
in France and waxed lyrical about their form as they grew (he's an
artist).


Never heard of grafting them though ...


Mary
Tree Leeks ??? *


Birch sap wine?


Latex?
--

Is this a further example of thread drift, and are we getting kinky?

Cat(h)


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On May 27, 9:02*pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
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Love your post, Cath, although I have no idea what you're talking about (no
telly but ***** to Mr Tit)!


Thanks... I think?

What's this, though, about grafting leeks?

I've sown leeks for the first time ever because a grandson has grown them in
France and waxed lyrical about their form as they grew (he's an artist).

Never heard of grafting them though ...

Mary


Sorry, that's a silly joke.
My father used to be a keen gardener, and one year he grew massive
leeks.
A particularly annoying and silly neighbour was oohing and aahing
about them, and he just told her that he had grafted them, deadpan.
She spread the news throughout the neighbourhood... giving a lot of
people a giggle or two.
I guess you had to be there :-)

Cat(h)


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