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Blue Cedar tree is dying
If there anything I can do to save this beautiful tree?
It had been planted by previous owners right in front of the kitchen window and they grow up to 30 to 40 feet so we had to move it. We carefully transplanted it last autumn. The branches closest to the ground have slowly turned dry-looking, then brown. We have lopped them off in the hope that the tree may use all its energy to keep the top going. But now I see that the very tip at the top is brown and the brownness appears to be moving down that spike. It's nine months since we move the tree into its new position. If it's dying it's a very slow death. When I removed one of the lower branches recently I clearly saw that the inner wood was moist. So it's been taking moisture in, for sure. Thanks, Eddy. |
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Blue Cedar tree is dying
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:45:08 +0100, Charlie Pridham
wrote and included this (or some of this): In article , says... If there anything I can do to save this beautiful tree? It had been planted by previous owners right in front of the kitchen window and they grow up to 30 to 40 feet so we had to move it. We carefully transplanted it last autumn. The branches closest to the ground have slowly turned dry-looking, then brown. We have lopped them off in the hope that the tree may use all its energy to keep the top going. But now I see that the very tip at the top is brown and the brownness appears to be moving down that spike. It's nine months since we move the tree into its new position. If it's dying it's a very slow death. When I removed one of the lower branches recently I clearly saw that the inner wood was moist. So it's been taking moisture in, for sure. Water it lots and spray the remaining foliage with water several times a day, its drying out to quickly and has yet to re establish its root system, sadly you may already be too late. I moved a 8' standard variegated holly some years back to make way for a conservatory. A tree-man from a local garden centre brought some new trees and had a look at the holly. He advised frequent drenches around the root ball with Miracle-Grow plus plenty of water.. The holly lost most of its leaves and really sulked for about 2 years, but 4 years later is flourishing. -- ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°² |
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Blue Cedar tree is dying
Charlie Pridham wrote:
Water it lots and spray the remaining foliage with water several times a day, its drying out to quickly and has yet to re establish its root system, sadly you may already be too late. Thanks, Charlie! I should have thought of spraying it with water. Instead I've been going past it and noticing the "lovely" smell of pine it is giving off . . . as it is drying out. I didn't think that spraying it with water would help. E |
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Blue Cedar tree is dying
®óñ© © ²°±°-°² wrote:
I moved a 8' standard variegated holly some years back to make way for a conservatory. A tree-man from a local garden centre brought some new trees and had a look at the holly. He advised frequent drenches around the root ball with Miracle-Grow plus plenty of water.. The holly lost most of its leaves and really sulked for about 2 years, but 4 years later is flourishing. Thanks, Ron, I'll get to work with Miracle-Grow as well. E. |
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Blue cedars notoriously do not survive being moved once established. Don't waste too much time/money on it, you aren't very likely to succeed.
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Blue Cedar tree is dying
Ron, I have only one product labelled "Miracle Gro" in the shed at the
moment . . . but it is "Miracle Gro Lawn Food" - mainly nitrogen. Online I see there are a number of different "Miracle Gro" products. You probably mean the general all-purpose one? http://www.plantmenow.co.uk/acatalog...lant-food.html Eddy. |
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Blue Cedar tree is dying
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:27:45 +0100, Eddy
wrote and included this (or some of this): Ron, I have only one product labelled "Miracle Gro" in the shed at the moment . . . but it is "Miracle Gro Lawn Food" - mainly nitrogen. Online I see there are a number of different "Miracle Gro" products. You probably mean the general all-purpose one? http://www.plantmenow.co.uk/acatalog...lant-food.html That's it.. All-purpose. -- ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°² |
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2 pics of dying Blue Cedar:
You probably mean the general all-purpose one?
http://www.plantmenow.co.uk/acatalog...lant-food.html That's it.. All-purpose. Thanks, Ron. Here are two pics of the poor tree. http://s246.photobucket.com/albums/g...yingcedar1.jpg http://s246.photobucket.com/albums/g...yingcedar1.jpg Any further thoughts from anybody on how to rescue this tree with intensive care will be much appreciated. Eddy. |
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Blue Cedar tree is dying
echinosum wrote:
Blue cedars notoriously do not survive being moved once established. Don't waste too much time/money on it, you aren't very likely to succeed. Oh, dear. I can only hope that I have named the tree wrongly! Do you agree it is a Blue Cedar. See email below for links to two pics. I am wondering whether I am giving it the wrong name because I feel sure I read somewhere that they are very adaptable. Eddy. |
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2 pics of dying Blue Cedar:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:03:51 +0100, Eddy
wrote and included this (or some of this): You probably mean the general all-purpose one? http://www.plantmenow.co.uk/acatalog...lant-food.html That's it.. All-purpose. Thanks, Ron. Here are two pics of the poor tree. http://s246.photobucket.com/albums/g...yingcedar1.jpg http://s246.photobucket.com/albums/g...yingcedar1.jpg Any further thoughts from anybody on how to rescue this tree with intensive care will be much appreciated. It does seem to be in competition for water with the nearby trees/shrubbery. Keep watered, and mist overhead frequently. -- ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°² |
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Despite what was said above, I thought it was generally recommended not to heavily feed suffering plants, unless it was lack of nutrients they were suffering from. Rather wait for them to recover before then giving them a good feed. Doesn't look like it has been short of nutrients, it's got a long leader. It is looking very dry where you have put it. All the rain we have had this year and there is yellow dry-looking grass around it. These plants grow in places of high rainfall naturally. |
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Blue Cedar tree is dying
On 9 Jun, 14:10, Eddy wrote:
If there anything I can do to save this beautiful tree? * It had been planted by previous owners right in front of the kitchen window and they grow up to 30 to 40 feet so we had to move it. *We carefully transplanted it last autumn. *The branches closest to the ground have slowly turned dry-looking, then brown. *We have lopped them off in the hope that the tree may use all its energy to keep the top going. *But now I see that the very tip at the top is brown and the brownness appears to be moving down that spike. *It's nine months since we move the tree into its new position. *If it's dying it's a very slow death. *When I removed one of the lower branches recently I clearly saw that the inner wood was moist. *So it's been taking moisture in, for sure. * Thanks, Eddy. Charlie's right, it's probably too late to save it. In the hope of saving somebody else's tree, something like this really needs time to prepare the rootball before moving it, that is at least a growing season. Allow a good diameter of rootball but bear in mind the practicalities of moving this sort of weight (make it as big as you can move), dig a deep trench all round it, cutting through any roots. Replace that soil with a good friable compost /soil mix - lots of small fibrous roots will regenerate into that during the growing season. When you come to move the tree you'll lift it with all of that fibrous root and you'll stand a chance of success following the advice Charlie's already given. Use Google to find about moving mature trees, you'll come up with some spectacular stuff about moving *really big* trees. |
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Blue Cedar tree is dying
In article 41690f6b-06f2-46a1-a383-
, says... On 9 Jun, 14:10, Eddy wrote: If there anything I can do to save this beautiful tree? * It had been planted by previous owners right in front of the kitchen window and they grow up to 30 to 40 feet so we had to move it. *We carefully transplanted it last autumn. *The branches closest to the ground have slowly turned dry-looking, then brown. *We have lopped them off in the hope that the tree may use all its energy to keep the top going. *But now I see that the very tip at the top is brown and the brownness appears to be moving down that spike. *It's nine months since we move the tree into its new position. *If it's dying it's a very slow death. *When I removed one of the lower branches recently I clearly saw that the inner wood was moist. *So it's been taking moisture in, for sure. * Thanks, Eddy. Charlie's right, it's probably too late to save it. In the hope of saving somebody else's tree, something like this really needs time to prepare the rootball before moving it, that is at least a growing season. Allow a good diameter of rootball but bear in mind the practicalities of moving this sort of weight (make it as big as you can move), dig a deep trench all round it, cutting through any roots. Replace that soil with a good friable compost /soil mix - lots of small fibrous roots will regenerate into that during the growing season. When you come to move the tree you'll lift it with all of that fibrous root and you'll stand a chance of success following the advice Charlie's already given. Use Google to find about moving mature trees, you'll come up with some spectacular stuff about moving *really big* trees. I think there is also some stuff you can spray the tree with that helps prevent water loss (like the stuff they use on Christmas trees) but no use in this case as the damage has been done. -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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Blue Cedar tree is dying
Rod wrote:
Charlie's right, it's probably too late to save it. In the hope of saving somebody else's tree, something like this really needs time to prepare the rootball before moving it, that is at least a growing season. Allow a good diameter of rootball but bear in mind the practicalities of moving this sort of weight (make it as big as you can move), dig a deep trench all round it, cutting through any roots. Replace that soil with a good friable compost /soil mix - lots of small fibrous roots will regenerate into that during the growing season. When you come to move the tree you'll lift it with all of that fibrous root and you'll stand a chance of success following the advice Charlie's already given. Use Google to find about moving mature trees, you'll come up with some spectacular stuff about moving *really big* trees. Thanks, Rod. I think one of the contributing factors to this beautiful tree's demise was that it had been planted right against a decking wall almost, which meant that about half of its roots travelled under the decking. So only half "the pie", to to speak, of its root system could be dug out. The other half, under the decking, were simply inaccessible and had to be sliced through. Transplanting it was still worthwhile though, just in case it survived. It couldn't be left right in front of the kitchen window. I think what hurts is that right through winter it looked OK. It's only since this spring that the fact of there having been absolutely no new growth, plus slow browning of the lower branches, began to emerge. Anyway, it's now getting loads of TLC, and I'll keep you posted. Eddy. |
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