I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

Any ideas?
--
Kay

On 20/8/08 20:53, in article , "K"
wrote:

I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

Any ideas?

Not from experience but:
Cultivation
Quinces grow and fruit readily in Southern England and succeeds as far north
as Yorkshire with a sunny sheltered site. Almost any soil is suitable (a
deep moist fertile loam is ideal), but shelter and sun are important; very
alkaline soils usually cause chlorosis. Trees do tolerate quite deep shade
but are unlikely to crop there.
http://www.agroforestry.co.uk/ansample.html
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

Sacha writes
On 20/8/08 20:53, in article , "K"
wrote:

I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

Any ideas?

Not from experience but:
Cultivation
Quinces grow and fruit readily in Southern England and succeeds as far north
as Yorkshire with a sunny sheltered site. Almost any soil is suitable (a
deep moist fertile loam is ideal), but shelter and sun are important; very
alkaline soils usually cause chlorosis. Trees do tolerate quite deep shade
but are unlikely to crop there.
http://www.agroforestry.co.uk/ansample.html

Thanks, but I'd already seen that site, hence my concern!
--
Kay

In article ,
says...
Sacha writes
On 20/8/08 20:53, in article , "K"
wrote:

I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

Any ideas?

Not from experience but:
Cultivation
Quinces grow and fruit readily in Southern England and succeeds as far north
as Yorkshire with a sunny sheltered site. Almost any soil is suitable (a
deep moist fertile loam is ideal), but shelter and sun are important; very
alkaline soils usually cause chlorosis. Trees do tolerate quite deep shade
but are unlikely to crop there.
http://www.agroforestry.co.uk/ansample.html

Thanks, but I'd already seen that site, hence my concern!

They are very unforgiving of dry roots, I had a lovely one that grew and
fruited well in a northly aspect, but it was on a raised bed and when I
realised that the down pipes from the house gutters entered the pipe on
one side but no water came ot the other I decided to clear the pipe of
soil and roots, the down pipes now work but the tree has been a mess ever
since! loses leaves seldom fruits and is due to come out - shame
If they like you they are a very pretty small tree and a good polinator
for any other pears you may have, I would say give it ago :~)
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

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Charlie Pridham writes:
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| They are very unforgiving of dry roots, ...

And are not good at growing new roots quickly. My mother had one
with the same problem - and she was living in a water meadow, on
nearly pure silt, with the soil surface about 1' above the water
table. The normal summer fluctuation caused the same problems that
you have.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Charlie Pridham writes

They are very unforgiving of dry roots,

I can cope with that. Water is no problem in my garden ;-)

I had a lovely one that grew and
fruited well in a northly aspect, but it was on a raised bed and when I
realised that the down pipes from the house gutters entered the pipe on
one side but no water came ot the other I decided to clear the pipe of
soil and roots, the down pipes now work but the tree has been a mess ever
since! loses leaves seldom fruits and is due to come out - shame
If they like you they are a very pretty small tree and a good polinator
for any other pears you may have, I would say give it ago :~)

Trouble is, it could be 5 years before it fruits, and that's a long time
if I have to give up after that. I've only got a small garden! But I
realise that the same local geography that makes it a frost hollow also
means the garden is relatively sheltered, so once the season gets going,
it's relatively warm. But there's quite a few trees around so it's not
exactly a sun trap.

--
Kay

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Trouble is, it could be 5 years before it fruits, and that's a long time
if I have to give up after that. I've only got a small garden! But I
realise that the same local geography that makes it a frost hollow also
means the garden is relatively sheltered, so once the season gets going,
it's relatively warm. But there's quite a few trees around so it's not
exactly a sun trap.

OTOH, a friend's quince (Cydonia) fruited the year after she put it in,
and a couple of years on, it yields a couple of sacks of fruit.

Mind you, it isn't far from the septic tank soakaway...

--
Rusty
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On 21/8/08 11:19, in article , "K"
wrote:

Sacha writes
On 20/8/08 20:53, in article , "K"
wrote:

I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

Any ideas?

Not from experience but:
Cultivation
Quinces grow and fruit readily in Southern England and succeeds as far north
as Yorkshire with a sunny sheltered site. Almost any soil is suitable (a
deep moist fertile loam is ideal), but shelter and sun are important; very
alkaline soils usually cause chlorosis. Trees do tolerate quite deep shade
but are unlikely to crop there.
http://www.agroforestry.co.uk/ansample.html

Thanks, but I'd already seen that site, hence my concern!

Sorry not to help more but from the replies of others it sounds as if it's
worth a try for you.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

Sacha writes
On 21/8/08 11:19, in article , "K"
wrote:

Sacha writes
On 20/8/08 20:53, in article , "K"
wrote:

I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

Any ideas?

Not from experience but:
Cultivation
Quinces grow and fruit readily in Southern England and succeeds as far north
as Yorkshire with a sunny sheltered site. Almost any soil is suitable (a
deep moist fertile loam is ideal), but shelter and sun are important; very
alkaline soils usually cause chlorosis. Trees do tolerate quite deep shade
but are unlikely to crop there.
http://www.agroforestry.co.uk/ansample.html

Thanks, but I'd already seen that site, hence my concern!

Sorry not to help more but from the replies of others it sounds as if it's
worth a try for you.

Sorry, I didn't mean to be a curmudgeon
--
Kay

"K" wrote in message
...

Sorry, I didn't mean to be a curmudgeon
--
Kay

Not at all, I've been interested because I've thought about growing one but
our garden is much smaller than yours. Instead I grew a medlar, this year
there will be more and better fruits than the last two years but still only
about seven or eight - and we're running out of time faster than you :-)

Mary

On 21/8/08 15:36, in article , "K"
wrote:

Sacha writes
On 21/8/08 11:19, in article , "K"
wrote:

Sacha writes
On 20/8/08 20:53, in article , "K"
wrote:

I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

Any ideas?

Not from experience but:
Cultivation
Quinces grow and fruit readily in Southern England and succeeds as far
north
as Yorkshire with a sunny sheltered site. Almost any soil is suitable (a
deep moist fertile loam is ideal), but shelter and sun are important; very
alkaline soils usually cause chlorosis. Trees do tolerate quite deep shade
but are unlikely to crop there.
http://www.agroforestry.co.uk/ansample.html

Thanks, but I'd already seen that site, hence my concern!

Sorry not to help more but from the replies of others it sounds as if it's
worth a try for you.

Sorry, I didn't mean to be a curmudgeon

?? I didn't think you were, truly. The written word is fraught with the
potential for misunderstanding....... ;-) If I'd paused for thought I'd
have realised you'd have done your research.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

"K" wrote in message
...
I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

Any ideas?
--
Kay

My parents grew Quince quite successfully only a few miles away from you. We
used to harvest the fruit very late in the year for Quince jelly. I've no
idea which form they grew but it was a relatively small bushy shrub.

In article ,
"Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)" writes:
| "K" wrote in message
| ...
|
| I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
| me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
| pocket.
|
| My parents grew Quince quite successfully only a few miles away from you. We
| used to harvest the fruit very late in the year for Quince jelly. I've no
| idea which form they grew but it was a relatively small bushy shrub.

That's Japanese quince (Chaenomeles) not true quince (Cydonia).

Given that it is decorative, tough and edible, it is always worth
growing, but it isn't as good as the true quince for most cooking
purposes. It makes a very good jelly, and pickle (for those who
like pickles with bite), and can be used in pies etc.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...

In article ,
"Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)" writes:
| "K" wrote in message
| ...
|
| I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit
for
| me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight
frost
| pocket.
|
| My parents grew Quince quite successfully only a few miles away from
you. We
| used to harvest the fruit very late in the year for Quince jelly. I've
no
| idea which form they grew but it was a relatively small bushy shrub.

That's Japanese quince (Chaenomeles) not true quince (Cydonia).

Given that it is decorative, tough and edible, it is always worth
growing, but it isn't as good as the true quince for most cooking
purposes. It makes a very good jelly, and pickle (for those who
like pickles with bite), and can be used in pies etc.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

I have a quince tree (Cydonia, "Vranja" variety) growing in North Yorks
(Thirkleby), on heavy wet clay soil in a bit of a hole (sheltered but a bit
too shaded by surrounding trees). It is about 7ft high and I planted it last
summer. The flowers were quite showy, and it has about 8 developing fruit -
so I'd say it would definitely be worth a try. I actually also have a
Chaenomeles near it, which is leafy but not flowering but it has been moved
about a bit in the last couple of years so I haven't given up on it yet.

Duncan

On 20/8/08 22:50, in article , "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)"
wrote:


"K" wrote in message
...
I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

Any ideas?
--
Kay

My parents grew Quince quite successfully only a few miles away from you. We
used to harvest the fruit very late in the year for Quince jelly. I've no
idea which form they grew but it was a relatively small bushy shrub.


That sounds like Chaenomeles japonica. The real quince is Cydonia oblonga
and the fruits are huge and pear shaped. Placed in a bowl in a room they
will perfume it beautifully. And an old Cydonia tree is a thing of beauty,
IMO.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon