I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

Any ideas?
--
Kay

On 20/8/08 20:53, in article , "K"
wrote:

I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

Any ideas?

Not from experience but:
Cultivation
Quinces grow and fruit readily in Southern England and succeeds as far north
as Yorkshire with a sunny sheltered site. Almost any soil is suitable (a
deep moist fertile loam is ideal), but shelter and sun are important; very
alkaline soils usually cause chlorosis. Trees do tolerate quite deep shade
but are unlikely to crop there.
http://www.agroforestry.co.uk/ansample.html
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

"K" wrote in message
...
I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

Any ideas?
--
Kay

My parents grew Quince quite successfully only a few miles away from you. We
used to harvest the fruit very late in the year for Quince jelly. I've no
idea which form they grew but it was a relatively small bushy shrub.

In article ,
"Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)" writes:
| "K" wrote in message
| ...
|
| I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
| me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
| pocket.
|
| My parents grew Quince quite successfully only a few miles away from you. We
| used to harvest the fruit very late in the year for Quince jelly. I've no
| idea which form they grew but it was a relatively small bushy shrub.

That's Japanese quince (Chaenomeles) not true quince (Cydonia).

Given that it is decorative, tough and edible, it is always worth
growing, but it isn't as good as the true quince for most cooking
purposes. It makes a very good jelly, and pickle (for those who
like pickles with bite), and can be used in pies etc.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)" writes:
| "K" wrote in message
| ...
|
| I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit
for
| me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight
frost
| pocket.
|
| My parents grew Quince quite successfully only a few miles away from
you. We
| used to harvest the fruit very late in the year for Quince jelly. I've
no
| idea which form they grew but it was a relatively small bushy shrub.

That's Japanese quince (Chaenomeles) not true quince (Cydonia).

Given that it is decorative, tough and edible, it is always worth
growing, but it isn't as good as the true quince for most cooking
purposes. It makes a very good jelly, and pickle (for those who
like pickles with bite), and can be used in pies etc.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

I have a quince tree (Cydonia, "Vranja" variety) growing in North Yorks
(Thirkleby), on heavy wet clay soil in a bit of a hole (sheltered but a bit
too shaded by surrounding trees). It is about 7ft high and I planted it last
summer. The flowers were quite showy, and it has about 8 developing fruit -
so I'd say it would definitely be worth a try. I actually also have a
Chaenomeles near it, which is leafy but not flowering but it has been moved
about a bit in the last couple of years so I haven't given up on it yet.

Duncan

"K" wrote in message
...
I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

I live in Australia and we get savage frosts. We've had temps down to -9C
and it has had no impact on our quince at all. Our biggest problem with it
is pear and cherry tree slug.

On 20/8/08 22:50, in article , "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)"
wrote:


"K" wrote in message
...
I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

Any ideas?
--
Kay

My parents grew Quince quite successfully only a few miles away from you. We
used to harvest the fruit very late in the year for Quince jelly. I've no
idea which form they grew but it was a relatively small bushy shrub.


That sounds like Chaenomeles japonica. The real quince is Cydonia oblonga
and the fruits are huge and pear shaped. Placed in a bowl in a room they
will perfume it beautifully. And an old Cydonia tree is a thing of beauty,
IMO.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

On Aug 21, 12:03*am, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"K" wrote in message

...

I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

I live in Australia and we get savage frosts. *We've had temps down to -9C
and it has had no impact on our quince at all. *Our biggest problem with it
is pear and cherry tree slug.

Have you tried grease bands? We had to do this. The first year it
was marginally successful until I also used grease to seal the edges
of the bands to the tree.

Judith

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008, Sacha wrote:

My parents grew Quince quite successfully only a few miles away from you. We
used to harvest the fruit very late in the year for Quince jelly. I've no
idea which form they grew but it was a relatively small bushy shrub.


That sounds like Chaenomeles japonica. The real quince is Cydonia oblonga
and the fruits are huge and pear shaped. Placed in a bowl in a room they
will perfume it beautifully. And an old Cydonia tree is a thing of beauty,
IMO.


My neighbour here in France has a quince tree (cydonia) and last year
she gave me some from which I made quince jelly. And that was
beautifully perfumed.

David

--
David Rance
writing from Le Mesnil Villement, Calvados, France

On 21/8/08 10:14, in article ,
"David Rance" wrote:

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008, Sacha wrote:

My parents grew Quince quite successfully only a few miles away from you. We
used to harvest the fruit very late in the year for Quince jelly. I've no
idea which form they grew but it was a relatively small bushy shrub.


That sounds like Chaenomeles japonica. The real quince is Cydonia oblonga
and the fruits are huge and pear shaped. Placed in a bowl in a room they
will perfume it beautifully. And an old Cydonia tree is a thing of beauty,
IMO.


My neighbour here in France has a quince tree (cydonia) and last year
she gave me some from which I made quince jelly. And that was
beautifully perfumed.

David

A friend of mine had a very old one and he allowed me to cut some branches
off it, with fruit attached, to decorate a church's windowsills for a
wedding. The smell was, well.......Heavenly. ;-)

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

Sacha writes
On 20/8/08 20:53, in article , "K"
wrote:

I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

Any ideas?

Not from experience but:
Cultivation
Quinces grow and fruit readily in Southern England and succeeds as far north
as Yorkshire with a sunny sheltered site. Almost any soil is suitable (a
deep moist fertile loam is ideal), but shelter and sun are important; very
alkaline soils usually cause chlorosis. Trees do tolerate quite deep shade
but are unlikely to crop there.
http://www.agroforestry.co.uk/ansample.html

Thanks, but I'd already seen that site, hence my concern!
--
Kay

"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" writes

"K" wrote in message
...
I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.


My parents grew Quince quite successfully only a few miles away from you. We
used to harvest the fruit very late in the year for Quince jelly. I've no
idea which form they grew but it was a relatively small bushy shrub.

Was that quince =Cydonia = tree as opposed to Japanese quince =
chaenomeles =shrub? Probably yes, 'cos you're well aware of the
difference, but just checking.


--
Kay

On Aug 21, 12:03*am, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"K" wrote in message

...

I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

I live in Australia and we get savage frosts. *We've had temps down to -9C
and it has had no impact on our quince at all. *

I wasn't so much worried about the frost as the lack of a long hot
summer, which wouldn't be a problem with you!
--
Kay

In article ,
says...
Sacha writes
On 20/8/08 20:53, in article , "K"
wrote:

I'd like to grow a quince (Cydonia) but not sure whether it'd fruit for
me. I'm in Yorkshire, 400ft above sea level, on clay in a slight frost
pocket.

Any ideas?

Not from experience but:
Cultivation
Quinces grow and fruit readily in Southern England and succeeds as far north
as Yorkshire with a sunny sheltered site. Almost any soil is suitable (a
deep moist fertile loam is ideal), but shelter and sun are important; very
alkaline soils usually cause chlorosis. Trees do tolerate quite deep shade
but are unlikely to crop there.
http://www.agroforestry.co.uk/ansample.html

Thanks, but I'd already seen that site, hence my concern!

They are very unforgiving of dry roots, I had a lovely one that grew and
fruited well in a northly aspect, but it was on a raised bed and when I
realised that the down pipes from the house gutters entered the pipe on
one side but no water came ot the other I decided to clear the pipe of
soil and roots, the down pipes now work but the tree has been a mess ever
since! loses leaves seldom fruits and is due to come out - shame
If they like you they are a very pretty small tree and a good polinator
for any other pears you may have, I would say give it ago :~)
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

In article ,
Charlie Pridham writes:
|
| They are very unforgiving of dry roots, ...

And are not good at growing new roots quickly. My mother had one
with the same problem - and she was living in a water meadow, on
nearly pure silt, with the soil surface about 1' above the water
table. The normal summer fluctuation caused the same problems that
you have.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.