"kate" wrote...
One of the best parts of gardening - next year. I sold at a small farmers
market for a few years but would never take my garlic - MINE! All mine!
One farmer sold elephant garlic - huge things, but it aappeared to only
have one clove?

Elephant Garlic is actually related to Leeks and isn't a true Garlic, the
taste is not that of true Garlic either IMO. Mind you some years ago whilst
in Cyprus we came across enormous true Garlic being sold in the market, wish
I'd bought some to try here in the UK but it probably wouldn't have done
well.


For fertilizing, I tend to stick with compost and manure and/or herbal
teas. I tried to cure tomato blight with garlic tea one year - didn't work
entirely, but I had tomatoes to sell into August so who knows?


We use Bordeaux Mixture sprayed on our plants to ward off the Blight, works
well provided you keep it topped up if it rains hard for a few days and is
easily washed off the fruit before use. Most of our Tomatoes are used for
cooking so are skinned anyway. We picked our last outdoor Tomatoes on
Sunday, amazingly late, after the plants were killed by a frost.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden

"kate" wrote

Gary Woods wrote:

[...]
Oh, well... as the Senators fans used to say, "Wait 'til next year."

One of the best parts of gardening - next year.

*amen!*

[...]
For fertilizing, I tend to stick with compost and manure and/or herbal
teas. I tried to cure tomato blight with garlic tea one year - didn't work
entirely, but I had tomatoes to sell into August so who knows?

Kate, something I've experimented with on the tomato blight, with great
success, is spraying the foliage/plant with ionic silver. A human friendly,
and very potent fungicide. I believe if I'm consistent with applications, I
might be able to get it knocked down almost entirely. Though before you
think, *oh my*, 30$ a gallon spraying 30 plants at about 2 gallons an
application, check this out for ionic silver, (at about a dollar a gallon).
It's the Collgen2 I use to make a 6 PPM solution.
http://www.health2us.com/colloid.htm Fred Peschel has really designed an
impressive little unit that works a treat and is not unreasonably expensive.
I also use the silver to treat a well and it is 100% effective at
eliminating bacteria in the water system. Ionic silver is a real cure.

Steve Young

In article , says...

"Ed" wrote (big snip)

But hey I only wanted to know if my garlic and onions will survive now
the tops have got bent over with the recent heavy snow and ice we
experienced last week.

I think we have answered that Ed. Somewhere.

BTW if you crosspost it's usual on Usenet to say so in the first line to
give us all a "Heads up" .
Can save all sorts of problems. :-)

*coff*
It's also usual to use some sort of marker to show what you're quoting
and what's new text - a few of your posts have come through with no
distinction so your news software may have hiccuped somewhere!
--
Linz
Wet Yorks

Steve Young wrote:

"kate" wrote

Gary Woods wrote:


[...]

Oh, well... as the Senators fans used to say, "Wait 'til next year."


One of the best parts of gardening - next year.


*amen!*

[...]

For fertilizing, I tend to stick with compost and manure and/or herbal
teas. I tried to cure tomato blight with garlic tea one year - didn't
work entirely, but I had tomatoes to sell into August so who knows?


Kate, something I've experimented with on the tomato blight, with great
success, is spraying the foliage/plant with ionic silver. A human
friendly, and very potent fungicide. I believe if I'm consistent with
applications, I might be able to get it knocked down almost entirely.
Though before you think, *oh my*, 30$ a gallon spraying 30 plants at
about 2 gallons an application, check this out for ionic silver, (at
about a dollar a gallon). It's the Collgen2 I use to make a 6 PPM solution.
http://www.health2us.com/colloid.htm Fred Peschel has really designed
an impressive little unit that works a treat and is not unreasonably
expensive. I also use the silver to treat a well and it is 100%
effective at eliminating bacteria in the water system. Ionic silver is
a real cure.

Steve Young

Thanks fr the idea, Steve. Maybe I'll get the starter bottle for next
season and see how it does before I make the bigger investment. I was
planning on letting the tomato crop rest a year but maybe...have you
tried treating the soil itself so would that be basicly polluting the soil?

Kate

"kate" wrote

Steve Young wrote:

"kate" wrote

For fertilizing, I tend to stick with compost and manure and/or herbal
teas. I tried to cure tomato blight with garlic tea one year - didn't
work entirely, but I had tomatoes to sell into August so who knows?

Kate, something I've experimented with on the tomato blight, with great
success, is spraying the foliage/plant with ionic silver. A human
friendly, and very potent fungicide. I believe if I'm consistent with
applications, I might be able to get it knocked down almost entirely.
Though before you think, *oh my*, 30$ a gallon spraying 30 plants at
about 2 gallons an application, check this out for ionic silver, (at
about a dollar a gallon). It's the Collgen2 I use to make a 6 PPM
solution. http://www.health2us.com/colloid.htm Fred Peschel has
really designed an impressive little unit that works a treat and is
not unreasonably expensive. I also use the silver to treat a well and
it is 100% effective at eliminating bacteria in the water system.
Ionic silver is a real cure.

Thanks fr the idea, Steve. Maybe I'll get the starter bottle for next
season and see how it does before I make the bigger investment.

Basically Kate, I wanted to throw out the idea because tomato blight is a
real heart breaker when you have a really nice crop coming along and you see
the fungus beginning to consume the plants. I know there are several
chemical treatments, but I and others here are trying to minimize chemical
use, if not eliminate it all together. I've noted you subscribe to this
interest as well. You might have noticed that the site I linked also
discusses ionic silver and health. That's actually how I came to learn of
this product, and then discovered its benefits in agriculture and as a well
water disinfectant. ... course I began dabbling with it.

For many years we had a stinkin ole well that only reacted to chlorine
shocks and then only for a short time before the the bacteria would return.
Each time it would be worse than it was before. I guess it was because the
well had been neglected many years before I moved here. After about 2 years
of silver treatment, our water is some of the freshest smelling and tasting
mineral water around. I feel silver got right down to the root of the
problem and knocked it out. I do continue a regular maintenance
amount.

I was planning on letting the tomato crop rest a year but maybe...have you
tried treating the soil itself so would that be basicly polluting the
soil?

The sad thing about the blight is that the disease will live in the soil for
many years before it finally dies. I think I've read 7 or 8. So yes, you're
right that killing it in the soil, where it lives, would be advantageous.
However, it's hard to imagine even 1 or 2 years without tomatoes, let alone
7 or 8. Moving the planting around to different parts of the garden will
help, but I don't have 8 separated spaces large enough

No, ionic silver at 6 PPM would not effect the soil with any harmful
contamination, ... *except* that it may kill soil microbes as well as the
funguses. Soil microbes are efficient microbes (EM) when it comes to
delivering minerals to the plants. Composting generates many of these
microbes naturally from a varied feedstock. I wonder if one could, in the
fall, spray a couple gallons on an infected area and till it in. Then in the
early spring work in a good load of compost. Here's an EM jump start if one
desired : http://www.scdworld.com/shop/product...duct_id=040101

If you'd like to try ionic silver, I'd be happy to make up a few gallons
for you and several requesters, for the cost of shipping from NE Ohio.
Anyone interested, un-munge my email and send me a hey.
I'll do a dozen or 2 gallons.

Steve Young

"Omelet" wrote in message
news
In article ,
"R M Watkin" wrote:

Hi All.

I do not think I will grow Garlic any more as it seems far to
complicated.

Richard M. Watkin.

I do hope you are pulling our leg...

Hi Om,

Garlic is dead easy to grow, I do not see what all the fuss was about. After
all this is a garden forum not for english lessons.

Richard M. Watkin.

--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity
cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

In article ,
"R M Watkin" wrote:

"Omelet" wrote in message
news
In article ,
"R M Watkin" wrote:

Hi All.

I do not think I will grow Garlic any more as it seems far to
complicated.

Richard M. Watkin.

I do hope you are pulling our leg...

Hi Om,

Garlic is dead easy to grow, I do not see what all the fuss was about. After
all this is a garden forum not for english lessons.

Richard M. Watkin.

I don't believe I participated in the spelling and punctuation flames
this time. ;-) I ignored it.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

On Nov 4, 2:04*pm, Gary Woods wrote:
Sheldon wrote:
I got yer UK...

Sometimes my countrymen embarrass me.
Shields up..

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

It's because they are all those dam humans.
I got the same problem on this side of the pond.
More dam humans.

Any time you deal with those varmints, it is going to be trouble.

Now you know why I like my garden and live stock.
They mess with me, I eat them or plow them under.
;-)

CanopyCo wrote:

It's because they are all those dam humans.
I got the same problem on this side of the pond.
More dam humans.

Plenty damn help keeping the water on your side of the pond... ya
oughta try some beaver... ahahahaha. . . .

Any time you deal with those varmints, it is going to be trouble.

Yup, never enough of those after dinner varmints to go around. BDG

In article
,
CanopyCo wrote:

On Nov 4, 2:04*pm, Gary Woods wrote:
Sheldon wrote:
I got yer UK...

Sometimes my countrymen embarrass me.
Shields up..

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at
home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

It's because they are all those dam humans.
I got the same problem on this side of the pond.
More dam humans.

Any time you deal with those varmints, it is going to be trouble.

Now you know why I like my garden and live stock.
They mess with me, I eat them or plow them under.
;-)

I like that concept. chuckles
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Steve Young wrote:

"kate" wrote

Steve Young wrote:


"kate" wrote


For fertilizing, I tend to stick with compost and manure and/or herbal
teas. I tried to cure tomato blight with garlic tea one year - didn't
work entirely, but I had tomatoes to sell into August so who knows?


Kate, something I've experimented with on the tomato blight, with great
success, is spraying the foliage/plant with ionic silver. A human
friendly, and very potent fungicide. I believe if I'm consistent with
applications, I might be able to get it knocked down almost entirely.
Though before you think, *oh my*, 30$ a gallon spraying 30 plants at
about 2 gallons an application, check this out for ionic silver, (at
about a dollar a gallon). It's the Collgen2 I use to make a 6 PPM
solution. http://www.health2us.com/colloid.htm Fred Peschel has
really designed an impressive little unit that works a treat and is
not unreasonably expensive. I also use the silver to treat a well and
it is 100% effective at eliminating bacteria in the water system.
Ionic silver is a real cure.


Thanks fr the idea, Steve. Maybe I'll get the starter bottle for next
season and see how it does before I make the bigger investment.


Basically Kate, I wanted to throw out the idea because tomato blight is a
real heart breaker when you have a really nice crop coming along and you
see
the fungus beginning to consume the plants. I know there are several
chemical treatments, but I and others here are trying to minimize chemical
use, if not eliminate it all together. I've noted you subscribe to this
interest as well. You might have noticed that the site I linked also
discusses ionic silver and health. That's actually how I came to learn of
this product, and then discovered its benefits in agriculture and as a well
water disinfectant. ... course I began dabbling with it.

For many years we had a stinkin ole well that only reacted to chlorine
shocks and then only for a short time before the the bacteria would return.
Each time it would be worse than it was before. I guess it was because the
well had been neglected many years before I moved here. After about 2 years
of silver treatment, our water is some of the freshest smelling and tasting
mineral water around. I feel silver got right down to the root of the
problem and knocked it out. I do continue a regular maintenance
amount.

I was planning on letting the tomato crop rest a year but maybe...have
you
tried treating the soil itself so would that be basicly polluting the
soil?


The sad thing about the blight is that the disease will live in the soil
for
many years before it finally dies. I think I've read 7 or 8. So yes,
you're
right that killing it in the soil, where it lives, would be advantageous.
However, it's hard to imagine even 1 or 2 years without tomatoes, let alone
7 or 8. Moving the planting around to different parts of the garden will
help, but I don't have 8 separated spaces large enough

No, ionic silver at 6 PPM would not effect the soil with any harmful
contamination, ... *except* that it may kill soil microbes as well as the
funguses. Soil microbes are efficient microbes (EM) when it comes to
delivering minerals to the plants. Composting generates many of these
microbes naturally from a varied feedstock. I wonder if one could, in the
fall, spray a couple gallons on an infected area and till it in. Then in
the
early spring work in a good load of compost. Here's an EM jump start if
one
desired : http://www.scdworld.com/shop/product...duct_id=040101

If you'd like to try ionic silver, I'd be happy to make up a few gallons
for you and several requesters, for the cost of shipping from NE Ohio.
Anyone interested, un-munge my email and send me a hey.
I'll do a dozen or 2 gallons.

Steve Young

Thanks, Steve - that's mighty generous of you!

Kate

"kate" wrote

Steve Young wrote:

If you'd like to try ionic silver, I'd be happy to make up a few gallons
for you and several requesters, for the cost of shipping from NE Ohio.
Anyone interested, un-munge my email and send me a hey.
I'll do a dozen or 2 gallons.

Thanks, Steve - that's mighty generous of you!

well, *thanks!*

silver is a potent killer of nasty things

imagine, for only the cost of the device, one can turn a 60 cent gallon of
distilled water into a human friendly green terminator. What a helper
around the house / garden, in the battle against bacteria and disease

Steve Young