"Sacha" wrote
This is the Camellia we just can't get a positive ID on. We know Edward
Hyams planted it, so it's over 50 years old and not a modern hybrid. A
customer thought it looks like the one at Pilnitz but it's much too small
a
bush to be that type. If there are some Camellia experts out there who
can
have a stab at it, we'd love to get some ideas.
http://i43.tinypic.com/avqy6r.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/33jtn39.jpg


This may help...
http://www.hortic.com/ics/index

We have a semi double red that is now a tree and have lost the name too.
--
Regards
Bob Hobden

"Bob Hobden" wrote

"Sacha" wrote
This is the Camellia we just can't get a positive ID on. We know Edward
Hyams planted it, so it's over 50 years old and not a modern hybrid. A
customer thought it looks like the one at Pilnitz but it's much too small
a
bush to be that type. If there are some Camellia experts out there who
can
have a stab at it, we'd love to get some ideas.
http://i43.tinypic.com/avqy6r.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/33jtn39.jpg


This may help...
http://www.hortic.com/ics/index

We have a semi double red that is now a tree and have lost the name too.

The Williamsii hybrid "Cherub" look remarkably like yours BTW.
Soft pink semi double.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden

On 31/3/09 17:43, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote:


"Bob Hobden" wrote

"Sacha" wrote
This is the Camellia we just can't get a positive ID on. We know Edward
Hyams planted it, so it's over 50 years old and not a modern hybrid. A
customer thought it looks like the one at Pilnitz but it's much too small
a
bush to be that type. If there are some Camellia experts out there who
can
have a stab at it, we'd love to get some ideas.
http://i43.tinypic.com/avqy6r.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/33jtn39.jpg


This may help...
http://www.hortic.com/ics/index

We have a semi double red that is now a tree and have lost the name too.

The Williamsii hybrid "Cherub" look remarkably like yours BTW.
Soft pink semi double.

Very close indeed. I'd need to see some pics of the growth habit,
apparently. Thanks very much, Bob - I'll look into that one more carefully.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials online

On 31/3/09 17:34, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote
This is the Camellia we just can't get a positive ID on. We know Edward
Hyams planted it, so it's over 50 years old and not a modern hybrid. A
customer thought it looks like the one at Pilnitz but it's much too small
a
bush to be that type. If there are some Camellia experts out there who
can
have a stab at it, we'd love to get some ideas.
http://i43.tinypic.com/avqy6r.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/33jtn39.jpg


This may help...
http://www.hortic.com/ics/index

We have a semi double red that is now a tree and have lost the name too.

So far, no dice with them, Bob but thank you for the link. My outlaws had a
nice Camellia collection themselves and were good friends with two
Presidents of that Society so I've sent photos to a few people involved
there but with no success yet. Last time we saw Liz and Charlie Pridham
they suggested we go to the show at Boconnoc and talk to all the Camellia
experts there but week ends here are just manic at present, so getting away
seems unlikely, although we'd love to. Maybe I'll have to FedEx a branch to
Charlie to take round for me - after all, he has nothing else to do, of
course. ;-)
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials online

In article ,
says...
On 31/3/09 17:34, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote
This is the Camellia we just can't get a positive ID on. We know Edward
Hyams planted it, so it's over 50 years old and not a modern hybrid. A
customer thought it looks like the one at Pilnitz but it's much too small
a
bush to be that type. If there are some Camellia experts out there who
can
have a stab at it, we'd love to get some ideas.
http://i43.tinypic.com/avqy6r.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/33jtn39.jpg


This may help...
http://www.hortic.com/ics/index

We have a semi double red that is now a tree and have lost the name too.

So far, no dice with them, Bob but thank you for the link. My outlaws had a
nice Camellia collection themselves and were good friends with two
Presidents of that Society so I've sent photos to a few people involved
there but with no success yet. Last time we saw Liz and Charlie Pridham
they suggested we go to the show at Boconnoc and talk to all the Camellia
experts there but week ends here are just manic at present, so getting away
seems unlikely, although we'd love to. Maybe I'll have to FedEx a branch to
Charlie to take round for me - after all, he has nothing else to do, of
course. ;-)

I would do it, if you got it here in time, we will be single handed up
there on Saturday as I try and catch up with clematis cuttings but with
two of us there on Sunday I would be able to take a look, but you really
need someone with a good knowledge to start with and thats not me! The
flower looks like St Ewe but the description of the bush does not, the
only other camellia I have seen that resembles it is Cherub, I am pretty
sure its a Williamsii, your problem may be that the various people your
predecessor was acquainted with often gave away unnamed seedlings so you
may never know!
Having seen you all in action on Sunday I can see why there is no way you
could sneak off at a weekend (long may it continue) its our first day
today and at least its dry, only 2 people last year, still you have to
start sometime :~)
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

On 1/4/09 10:58, in article ,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:

In article ,
says...
On 31/3/09 17:34, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote
This is the Camellia we just can't get a positive ID on. We know Edward
Hyams planted it, so it's over 50 years old and not a modern hybrid. A
customer thought it looks like the one at Pilnitz but it's much too small
a
bush to be that type. If there are some Camellia experts out there who
can
have a stab at it, we'd love to get some ideas.
http://i43.tinypic.com/avqy6r.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/33jtn39.jpg


This may help...
http://www.hortic.com/ics/index

We have a semi double red that is now a tree and have lost the name too.

So far, no dice with them, Bob but thank you for the link. My outlaws had a
nice Camellia collection themselves and were good friends with two
Presidents of that Society so I've sent photos to a few people involved
there but with no success yet. Last time we saw Liz and Charlie Pridham
they suggested we go to the show at Boconnoc and talk to all the Camellia
experts there but week ends here are just manic at present, so getting away
seems unlikely, although we'd love to. Maybe I'll have to FedEx a branch to
Charlie to take round for me - after all, he has nothing else to do, of
course. ;-)

I would do it, if you got it here in time, we will be single handed up
there on Saturday as I try and catch up with clematis cuttings but with
two of us there on Sunday I would be able to take a look, but you really
need someone with a good knowledge to start with and thats not me! The
flower looks like St Ewe but the description of the bush does not, the
only other camellia I have seen that resembles it is Cherub, I am pretty
sure its a Williamsii, your problem may be that the various people your
predecessor was acquainted with often gave away unnamed seedlings so you
may never know!
Having seen you all in action on Sunday I can see why there is no way you
could sneak off at a weekend (long may it continue) its our first day
today and at least its dry, only 2 people last year, still you have to
start sometime :~)

I hope you have a great season, Charlie. Ours certainly has started with a
bang, as you and Liz saw. The weather today is absolutely gorgeous and the
forecast is good, so I hope we all have a wonderful week end in our various
ways! I'm going to forward those photos to Charlie Williams at Burncoose
and see if by the remotest chance, he can ID that Camellia because I don't
seriously expect you to go flogging round a show on our behalf!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials online