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Bob Hobden wrote (amid a well-worded and much deserved swipe) :
..... I understand there are over 1,000 williamsii hybrids alone ... I don't think I've given much thought to Camellias for many years, but it's funny how things suddenly click and cause a flood of memories. Back in the very early '70s, there was a chappy living near Evesham who'd become disillusioned with being an accountant and decided to raise and grow Camellias instead. A brave move because of the time span involved and as beautiful as they are, Camellias were never at the forefront of 'Joe Public's' attention unless they were in flower. IIRC he had quite a few of his own varieties, and he could certainly grow excellent plants. They were mostly williamsii types and I think it's fair to say that many were pretty close to existing varieties. Nevertheless, they were well worth having and several were outstanding so we sold as many as he could supply. Anyway, I decided to google just one of the hybrids that I could remember; C. 'Janie Anderson', which I grew in my Bromsgrove garden and found that it is still around, being grown at the Duchy nurseries in Cornwall of all places. Then I discovered that another, 'Elizabeth Anderson' crops up on several grower's lists and gained an AGM after being submitted by Trehane nurseries a couple of years ago. I don't know what happened to David and have just a faint inkling that he suddenly went off the scene, but it's nice to think that his enthusiasm and inspiration nearly 40 years ago led to a plant that looks good today and is likely to be around for many years to come. |
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"DaveP" wrote after... Bob Hobden had a go at a fool ..... I understand there are over 1,000 williamsii hybrids alone ... I don't think I've given much thought to Camellias for many years, but it's funny how things suddenly click and cause a flood of memories. Back in the very early '70s, there was a chappy living near Evesham who'd become disillusioned with being an accountant and decided to raise and grow Camellias instead. A brave move because of the time span involved and as beautiful as they are, Camellias were never at the forefront of 'Joe Public's' attention unless they were in flower. IIRC he had quite a few of his own varieties, and he could certainly grow excellent plants. They were mostly williamsii types and I think it's fair to say that many were pretty close to existing varieties. Nevertheless, they were well worth having and several were outstanding so we sold as many as he could supply. Anyway, I decided to google just one of the hybrids that I could remember; C. 'Janie Anderson', which I grew in my Bromsgrove garden and found that it is still around, being grown at the Duchy nurseries in Cornwall of all places. Then I discovered that another, 'Elizabeth Anderson' crops up on several grower's lists and gained an AGM after being submitted by Trehane nurseries a couple of years ago. I don't know what happened to David and have just a faint inkling that he suddenly went off the scene, but it's nice to think that his enthusiasm and inspiration nearly 40 years ago led to a plant that looks good today and is likely to be around for many years to come. We got a few from Stonehurst Nursery which was down near Wakehurst Place, used to be a rather interesting Camellia and Orchid nursery that grew the camellias from cutting from the local landowners place, so some rare old varieties. "Madame de Strekaloff" for example, which is one of my favourites. Sadly the nursery is no longer with us. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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"Sacha" wrote after, "Bob Hobden" wrote: We got a few from Stonehurst Nursery which was down near Wakehurst Place, used to be a rather interesting Camellia and Orchid nursery that grew the camellias from cutting from the local landowners place, so some rare old varieties. "Madame de Strekaloff" for example, which is one of my favourites. Sadly the nursery is no longer with us. I've just looked that one up, Bob. It's absolutely *gorgeous* - like a little hand tied posy in one flower. I'm going on a hunt for that! see.. http://www.rhododendrons.com/camelli...-all/1/alpha_M or if Ray is up for it you can always have a cutting or two. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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On 1/4/09 18:10, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote: "Sacha" wrote after, "Bob Hobden" wrote: We got a few from Stonehurst Nursery which was down near Wakehurst Place, used to be a rather interesting Camellia and Orchid nursery that grew the camellias from cutting from the local landowners place, so some rare old varieties. "Madame de Strekaloff" for example, which is one of my favourites. Sadly the nursery is no longer with us. I've just looked that one up, Bob. It's absolutely *gorgeous* - like a little hand tied posy in one flower. I'm going on a hunt for that! see.. http://www.rhododendrons.com/camelli...-all/1/alpha_M or if Ray is up for it you can always have a cutting or two. We'd love a cutting or two if you can spare them! Many thanks. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials online |
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ID of Camellia
On 1/4/09 04:05, in article
, "DaveP" wrote: Bob Hobden wrote (amid a well-worded and much deserved swipe) : ..... I understand there are over 1,000 williamsii hybrids alone ... I don't think I've given much thought to Camellias for many years, but it's funny how things suddenly click and cause a flood of memories. Back in the very early '70s, there was a chappy living near Evesham who'd become disillusioned with being an accountant and decided to raise and grow Camellias instead. A brave move because of the time span involved and as beautiful as they are, Camellias were never at the forefront of 'Joe Public's' attention unless they were in flower. IIRC he had quite a few of his own varieties, and he could certainly grow excellent plants. They were mostly williamsii types and I think it's fair to say that many were pretty close to existing varieties. Nevertheless, they were well worth having and several were outstanding so we sold as many as he could supply. I really love Camellias and I'm sure part of it is early associations with some that grew in our Torquay garden when I was a child and then later, in our Guernsey garden. My ex fil had a wonderful 'Camellia Walk' and many other specimens here and there all over the garden - he was a great enthusiast and it was he who first introduced me to C. sasanqua Narumigata, that lovely, early flowering, scented white one, when it was still 'rare' in the Channel Islands. (I'm just astonished at what could be grown in so many gardens there and isn't!) I think there's a danger of us being almost complacent about them because we've become so used to them but their flowers are exquisite and the old one I want to ID flowers for at least a couple of months. Anyway, I decided to google just one of the hybrids that I could remember; C. 'Janie Anderson', which I grew in my Bromsgrove garden and found that it is still around, being grown at the Duchy nurseries in Cornwall of all places. Then I discovered that another, 'Elizabeth Anderson' crops up on several grower's lists and gained an AGM after being submitted by Trehane nurseries a couple of years ago. I don't know what happened to David and have just a faint inkling that he suddenly went off the scene, but it's nice to think that his enthusiasm and inspiration nearly 40 years ago led to a plant that looks good today and is likely to be around for many years to come. Charlie might know. He and Liz were telling us of a garden in Cornwall where the owner is a great Camellia expert - one of the "Tre's", I think, so I've forgotten it already - sorry, Charlie Would C. Janie Anderson have come from Burncoose originally as it's one of the C. williamsii? I'm trying to find C. nitidissima (formerly C. chrysantha) and Anne Berry kindly put me in touch with a Camellia expert in Dorsest who is mad about Camellias and propagates lots of them. He's said that if he succeeds with this one he'd let me have it but he thinks it's unlikely to flower outdoors in the British Isles so we'd have to put it in one of the greenhouses. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials online |
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Sacha wrote:
*Would C. Janie Anderson have come from Burncoose originally as it's one of the C. williamsii? No, it was raised by David Anderson in Worcestershire and named after his daughter. One of the parents was 'Donation', but I forget the other. He was also doing some work on the sasanquas including Nurumigata, but we didn't the results from those. |
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On 2/4/09 00:05, in article
, "DaveP" wrote: Sacha wrote: *Would C. Janie Anderson have come from Burncoose originally as it's one of the C. williamsii? No, it was raised by David Anderson in Worcestershire and named after his daughter. One of the parents was 'Donation', but I forget the other. He was also doing some work on the sasanquas including Nurumigata, but we didn't the results from those. Thanks, David. I'll look for a pic of that. When my son was born my ma in law brought a little posy of Camellias from the garden to me in hospital and I remember that Donation was one of them! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials online |
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