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beccabunga wrote: geordief;867856 Wrote: Can anyone tell me if when wood will spark and when it won't? I mean I (think I ) know that burning resiny wood causes sparks. And I also know that damp wood will cause sparks. But what about bone-dry resiny wood(ie pine etc).Could that be safe? My first impression is that sparking is greatly reduced but I am still wary. Any one have first hand experience here? thanks Any wood from pines or firs will/can spark, whether wet or dry. The other one to watch for is willow, which is particularly explosive, especially when burnt wet. And poplar. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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wrote in message ... In article , beccabunga wrote: geordief;867856 Wrote: Can anyone tell me if when wood will spark and when it won't? I mean I (think I ) know that burning resiny wood causes sparks. And I also know that damp wood will cause sparks. But what about bone-dry resiny wood(ie pine etc).Could that be safe? My first impression is that sparking is greatly reduced but I am still wary. Any one have first hand experience here? thanks Any wood from pines or firs will/can spark, whether wet or dry. The other one to watch for is willow, which is particularly explosive, especially when burnt wet. And poplar. Regards, Nick Maclaren. Also be very careful that you don't burn laurel (the prunus type) indoors. It gives off cyanide fumes, as it will in the garden so always stand upwind from it. Spider |
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Spider wrote: Also be very careful that you don't burn laurel (the prunus type) indoors. It gives off cyanide fumes, as it will in the garden so always stand upwind from it. Really? That sounds most implausible. Hydrogen cyanide is extremely flammable, with a flash point of -17.78 degrees Celsius and an autoignition temperature of only 538 degrees Celsius. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguide...cognition.html Obviously, don't burn it under circumstances where you might be at risk from carbon monoxide, because hydrogen cyanide is even more toxic, but LOTS of the Rosaceae contain quite a lot of cyanides and Prunus laurocerasus isn't as extreme as people think. Every time I shred my Cotoneaster franchetti, there is a strong smell of bitter almonds, for example :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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wrote in message ... In article , Spider wrote: Also be very careful that you don't burn laurel (the prunus type) indoors. It gives off cyanide fumes, as it will in the garden so always stand upwind from it. Really? That sounds most implausible. Hydrogen cyanide is extremely flammable, with a flash point of -17.78 degrees Celsius and an autoignition temperature of only 538 degrees Celsius. It is, as you know, a well-documented fact that laurel (prunus laurocerasus) contains hydrogen cyanide. When put on a domestic fire - indoors or outdoors - it will usually smoulder for some time before catching fire. Certainly, when the cyanide gas catches fire, it will be burnt off, but until then it will rise in the warm air and disperse. Outdoors, one can stand upwind and hope to avoid it but, I for one would not want to risk breathing that contaminated air indoors in a confined space. Unfortunately, my ex-fireman father is not available for a couple of days, but I will discuss this with him when next we speak. It is just possible that being brought up as the daughter of a fireman, I am a little paranoid :~), but I would rather be paranoid than dead. http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguide...cognition.html Obviously, don't burn it under circumstances where you might be at risk from carbon monoxide, because hydrogen cyanide is even more toxic, but LOTS of the Rosaceae contain quite a lot of cyanides and Prunus laurocerasus isn't as extreme as people think. Every time I shred my Cotoneaster franchetti, there is a strong smell of bitter almonds, for example :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. Thanks for the link, btw, most interesting. Spider |
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Spider wrote: It is, as you know, a well-documented fact that laurel (prunus laurocerasus) contains hydrogen cyanide. When put on a domestic fire - indoors or outdoors - it will usually smoulder for some time before catching fire. Certainly, when the cyanide gas catches fire, it will be burnt off, but until then it will rise in the warm air and disperse. Outdoors, one can stand upwind and hope to avoid it but, I for one would not want to risk breathing that contaminated air indoors in a confined space. Unfortunately, my ex-fireman father is not available for a couple of days, but I will discuss this with him when next we speak. As I said, that holds for most of the Rosaceae, and in particular most of the Prunus genus. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 Nick Maclaren wrote:
Can anyone tell me if when wood will spark and when it won't? I mean I (think I ) know that burning resiny wood causes sparks. And I also know that damp wood will cause sparks. But what about bone-dry resiny wood(ie pine etc).Could that be safe? My first impression is that sparking is greatly reduced but I am still wary. Any one have first hand experience here? thanks Any wood from pines or firs will/can spark, whether wet or dry. The other one to watch for is willow, which is particularly explosive, especially when burnt wet. And poplar. And mulberry. It's quite spectacular. David -- David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK http://rance.org.uk |
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I have a boiler so I don't heat my home with wood but I do have a fire
place. I use a duralog for the fire place cause it has special crystals inside the log that burn different colors. |
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On Oct 25, 10:26*pm, beccabunga beccabunga.
wrote: geordief;867856 Wrote: Can anyone tell me if when wood will spark and when it won't? I mean I (think I ) know that burning resiny wood causes sparks. And I also know that damp wood will cause sparks. But what about bone-dry resiny wood(ie pine etc).Could that be safe? My first impression *is that sparking is greatly reduced but I am still wary. Any one have * first hand experience here? thanks Any wood from pines or firs will/can spark, whether wet or dry. The other one to watch for is willow, which is particularly explosive, especially when burnt wet. -- beccabunga We have a woodburner and, on order, a wood burning Aga type cooker. We burn mostly oak, seasoned at least 2 years, it burns well and no sparks. We also burn frene and some pine as we have a lot of pine beams over 150 years old from the barn. We had the roof replaced as it was infested with Capricorne. This pine doesn't spark but I doubt there is any resin left in it after all this time. Judith |
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On 26 Oct, 17:43, Judith in France
wrote: On Oct 25, 10:26*pm, beccabunga beccabunga. wrote: geordief;867856 Wrote: Can anyone tell me if when wood will spark and when it won't? I mean I (think I ) know that burning resiny wood causes sparks. And I also know that damp wood will cause sparks. But what about bone-dry resiny wood(ie pine etc).Could that be safe? My first impression *is that sparking is greatly reduced but I am still wary. Any one have * first hand experience here? thanks Any wood from pines or firs will/can spark, whether wet or dry. The other one to watch for is willow, which is particularly explosive, especially when burnt wet. -- beccabunga We have a woodburner and, on order, a wood burning Aga type cooker. We burn mostly oak, seasoned at least 2 years, it burns well and no sparks. *We also burn frene and some pine as we have a lot of pine beams over 150 years old from the barn. *We had the roof replaced as it was infested with Capricorne. *This pine doesn't spark but I doubt there is any resin left in it after all this time. Judith I'm burning 19 Century roofing lathes at the moment as kindling and they spark amazingly. (It's in a wood burner.) Jonathan |
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On Oct 27, 10:49*am, Jonathan wrote:
On 26 Oct, 17:43, Judith in France wrote: On Oct 25, 10:26*pm, beccabunga beccabunga. wrote: geordief;867856 Wrote: Can anyone tell me if when wood will spark and when it won't? I mean I (think I ) know that burning resiny wood causes sparks. And I also know that damp wood will cause sparks. But what about bone-dry resiny wood(ie pine etc).Could that be safe? My first impression *is that sparking is greatly reduced but I am still wary. Any one have * first hand experience here? thanks Any wood from pines or firs will/can spark, whether wet or dry. The other one to watch for is willow, which is particularly explosive, especially when burnt wet. -- beccabunga We have a woodburner and, on order, a wood burning Aga type cooker. We burn mostly oak, seasoned at least 2 years, it burns well and no sparks. *We also burn frene and some pine as we have a lot of pine beams over 150 years old from the barn. *We had the roof replaced as it was infested with Capricorne. *This pine doesn't spark but I doubt there is any resin left in it after all this time. Judith I'm burning 19 Century roofing lathes at the moment as kindling and they spark amazingly. (It's in a wood burner.) Jonathan We have a lot of old wood like this, it too goes into the woodburner although it doesn't seem to spark, much. I remember when we had some work done on a house about 33 years ago, that the lathes sparked, maybe some treatment in the wood? Judith |
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, Judith in France writes We have a woodburner and, on order, a wood burning Aga type cooker. We burn mostly oak, seasoned at least 2 years, it burns well and no sparks. It's a swine to start burning though, it just never seems to catch.We have a multi fuel fire/stove and bung anything in there. Old Christmas tree leaves make a spectacular display then peter out. -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message ... In article , Judith in France writes We have a woodburner and, on order, a wood burning Aga type cooker. We burn mostly oak, seasoned at least 2 years, it burns well and no sparks. It's a swine to start burning though, it just never seems to catch.We have a multi fuel fire/stove and bung anything in there. Old Christmas tree leaves make a spectacular display then peter out. I've had a woodburner for 25 years, long before it was fashionable. Favourite wood is ash - it burns well and even if not long seasoned it won't tar your chimney up. Oak is good when the fire is burning well with other wood, but as you say, you can't start a fire with oak. I'm at a bit of a disadvantage with my woodburner - I am out at work 5/7 and have to start a fresh fire every evening. If you can keep it going all the time you can use oak as it's slow burning. If my fire is a bit sulky (it has its moments) I just go outside and cut a small branch of my Lawsons Cypressus which has so much resin in it it makes the fire go like a bomb. Tina |
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