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Can anyone tell me if when wood will spark and when it won't?
I mean I (think I ) know that burning resiny wood causes sparks.
And I also know that damp wood will cause sparks.
But what about bone-dry resiny wood(ie pine etc).Could that be safe?
My first impression is that sparking is greatly reduced but I am still wary.
Any one have first hand experience here?
thanks
Any wood from pines or firs will/can spark, whether wet or dry. The other one to watch for is willow, which is particularly explosive, especially when burnt wet.
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Any wood from pines or firs will/can spark, whether wet or dry. The other one to watch for is willow, which is particularly explosive, especially when burnt wet.
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geordief;867856 Wrote:
Can anyone tell me if when wood will spark and when it won't?
I mean I (think I ) know that burning resiny wood causes sparks.
And I also know that damp wood will cause sparks.
But what about bone-dry resiny wood(ie pine etc).Could that be safe?
My first impression is that sparking is greatly reduced but I am still
wary.
Any one have first hand experience here?
thanks


Any wood from pines or firs will/can spark, whether wet or dry. The
other one to watch for is willow, which is particularly explosive,
especially when burnt wet.


And poplar.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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geordief;867856 Wrote:
Can anyone tell me if when wood will spark and when it won't?
I mean I (think I ) know that burning resiny wood causes sparks.
And I also know that damp wood will cause sparks.
But what about bone-dry resiny wood(ie pine etc).Could that be safe?
My first impression is that sparking is greatly reduced but I am still
wary.
Any one have first hand experience here?
thanks


Any wood from pines or firs will/can spark, whether wet or dry. The
other one to watch for is willow, which is particularly explosive,
especially when burnt wet.


And poplar.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.



Also be very careful that you don't burn laurel (the prunus type) indoors.
It gives off cyanide fumes, as it will in the garden so always stand upwind
from it.

Spider


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Also be very careful that you don't burn laurel (the prunus type) indoors.
It gives off cyanide fumes, as it will in the garden so always stand upwind
from it.


Really? That sounds most implausible. Hydrogen cyanide is extremely
flammable, with a flash point of -17.78 degrees Celsius and an
autoignition temperature of only 538 degrees Celsius.

http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguide...cognition.html

Obviously, don't burn it under circumstances where you might be at
risk from carbon monoxide, because hydrogen cyanide is even more
toxic, but LOTS of the Rosaceae contain quite a lot of cyanides
and Prunus laurocerasus isn't as extreme as people think. Every
time I shred my Cotoneaster franchetti, there is a strong smell
of bitter almonds, for example :-)


Regards,
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Also be very careful that you don't burn laurel (the prunus type) indoors.
It gives off cyanide fumes, as it will in the garden so always stand
upwind
from it.


Really? That sounds most implausible. Hydrogen cyanide is extremely
flammable, with a flash point of -17.78 degrees Celsius and an
autoignition temperature of only 538 degrees Celsius.



It is, as you know, a well-documented fact that laurel (prunus laurocerasus)
contains hydrogen cyanide. When put on a domestic fire - indoors or
outdoors - it will usually smoulder for some time before catching fire.
Certainly, when the cyanide gas catches fire, it will be burnt off, but
until then it will rise in the warm air and disperse. Outdoors, one can
stand upwind and hope to avoid it but, I for one would not want to risk
breathing that contaminated air indoors in a confined space. Unfortunately,
my ex-fireman father is not available for a couple of days, but I will
discuss this with him when next we speak.
It is just possible that being brought up as the daughter of a fireman, I am
a little paranoid :~), but I would rather be paranoid than dead.


http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguide...cognition.html

Obviously, don't burn it under circumstances where you might be at
risk from carbon monoxide, because hydrogen cyanide is even more
toxic, but LOTS of the Rosaceae contain quite a lot of cyanides
and Prunus laurocerasus isn't as extreme as people think. Every
time I shred my Cotoneaster franchetti, there is a strong smell
of bitter almonds, for example :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.



Thanks for the link, btw, most interesting.

Spider


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Spider wrote:

It is, as you know, a well-documented fact that laurel (prunus laurocerasus)
contains hydrogen cyanide. When put on a domestic fire - indoors or
outdoors - it will usually smoulder for some time before catching fire.
Certainly, when the cyanide gas catches fire, it will be burnt off, but
until then it will rise in the warm air and disperse. Outdoors, one can
stand upwind and hope to avoid it but, I for one would not want to risk
breathing that contaminated air indoors in a confined space. Unfortunately,
my ex-fireman father is not available for a couple of days, but I will
discuss this with him when next we speak.


As I said, that holds for most of the Rosaceae, and in particular
most of the Prunus genus.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 Nick Maclaren wrote:

Can anyone tell me if when wood will spark and when it won't?
I mean I (think I ) know that burning resiny wood causes sparks.
And I also know that damp wood will cause sparks.
But what about bone-dry resiny wood(ie pine etc).Could that be safe?
My first impression is that sparking is greatly reduced but I am still
wary.
Any one have first hand experience here?
thanks


Any wood from pines or firs will/can spark, whether wet or dry. The
other one to watch for is willow, which is particularly explosive,
especially when burnt wet.


And poplar.


And mulberry. It's quite spectacular.

David

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I have a boiler so I don't heat my home with wood but I do have a fire
place. I use a duralog for the fire place cause it has special crystals
inside the log that burn different colors.

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On Oct 25, 10:26*pm, beccabunga beccabunga.
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geordief;867856 Wrote:

Can anyone tell me if when wood will spark and when it won't?
I mean I (think I ) know that burning resiny wood causes sparks.
And I also know that damp wood will cause sparks.
But what about bone-dry resiny wood(ie pine etc).Could that be safe?
My first impression *is that sparking is greatly reduced but I am still
wary.
Any one have * first hand experience here?
thanks


Any wood from pines or firs will/can spark, whether wet or dry. The
other one to watch for is willow, which is particularly explosive,
especially when burnt wet.

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We have a woodburner and, on order, a wood burning Aga type cooker.
We burn mostly oak, seasoned at least 2 years, it burns well and no
sparks. We also burn frene and some pine as we have a lot of pine
beams over 150 years old from the barn. We had the roof replaced as
it was infested with Capricorne. This pine doesn't spark but I doubt
there is any resin left in it after all this time.

Judith


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On 26 Oct, 17:43, Judith in France
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On Oct 25, 10:26*pm, beccabunga beccabunga.



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geordief;867856 Wrote:


Can anyone tell me if when wood will spark and when it won't?
I mean I (think I ) know that burning resiny wood causes sparks.
And I also know that damp wood will cause sparks.
But what about bone-dry resiny wood(ie pine etc).Could that be safe?
My first impression *is that sparking is greatly reduced but I am still
wary.
Any one have * first hand experience here?
thanks


Any wood from pines or firs will/can spark, whether wet or dry. The
other one to watch for is willow, which is particularly explosive,
especially when burnt wet.


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beccabunga


We have a woodburner and, on order, a wood burning Aga type cooker.
We burn mostly oak, seasoned at least 2 years, it burns well and no
sparks. *We also burn frene and some pine as we have a lot of pine
beams over 150 years old from the barn. *We had the roof replaced as
it was infested with Capricorne. *This pine doesn't spark but I doubt
there is any resin left in it after all this time.

Judith


I'm burning 19 Century roofing lathes at the moment as kindling and
they spark amazingly. (It's in a wood burner.)

Jonathan
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On Oct 27, 10:49*am, Jonathan wrote:
On 26 Oct, 17:43, Judith in France
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On Oct 25, 10:26*pm, beccabunga beccabunga.


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geordief;867856 Wrote:


Can anyone tell me if when wood will spark and when it won't?
I mean I (think I ) know that burning resiny wood causes sparks.
And I also know that damp wood will cause sparks.
But what about bone-dry resiny wood(ie pine etc).Could that be safe?
My first impression *is that sparking is greatly reduced but I am still
wary.
Any one have * first hand experience here?
thanks


Any wood from pines or firs will/can spark, whether wet or dry. The
other one to watch for is willow, which is particularly explosive,
especially when burnt wet.


--
beccabunga


We have a woodburner and, on order, a wood burning Aga type cooker.
We burn mostly oak, seasoned at least 2 years, it burns well and no
sparks. *We also burn frene and some pine as we have a lot of pine
beams over 150 years old from the barn. *We had the roof replaced as
it was infested with Capricorne. *This pine doesn't spark but I doubt
there is any resin left in it after all this time.


Judith


I'm burning 19 Century roofing lathes at the moment as kindling and
they spark amazingly. (It's in a wood burner.)

Jonathan


We have a lot of old wood like this, it too goes into the woodburner
although it doesn't seem to spark, much. I remember when we had some
work done on a house about 33 years ago, that the lathes sparked,
maybe some treatment in the wood?

Judith
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Judith in France writes
We have a woodburner and, on order, a wood burning Aga type cooker.
We burn mostly oak, seasoned at least 2 years, it burns well and no
sparks.


It's a swine to start burning though, it just never seems to catch.We
have a multi fuel fire/stove and bung anything in there. Old Christmas
tree leaves make a spectacular display then peter out.

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Judith in France writes
We have a woodburner and, on order, a wood burning Aga type cooker.
We burn mostly oak, seasoned at least 2 years, it burns well and no
sparks.


It's a swine to start burning though, it just never seems to catch.We have
a multi fuel fire/stove and bung anything in there. Old Christmas tree
leaves make a spectacular display then peter out.

I've had a woodburner for 25 years, long before it was fashionable.
Favourite wood is ash - it burns well and even if not long seasoned it
won't tar your chimney up.
Oak is good when the fire is burning well with other wood, but as you say,
you can't start a fire with oak.
I'm at a bit of a disadvantage with my woodburner - I am out at work 5/7 and
have to start a fresh fire every evening. If you can keep it going all the
time you can use oak as it's slow burning.
If my fire is a bit sulky (it has its moments) I just go outside and cut a
small branch of my Lawsons Cypressus which has so much resin in it it makes
the fire go like a bomb.

Tina



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