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As someone who travels locally on foot more often than by car, I'm not
too fussed about anything that means drivers drive more slowly.


Even it it makes it much more difficult to cross roads on foot?

In what way do slower cars make it more difficult to cross roads?


Because it makes it much more likely that there is a continuous
stream of moving traffic, with no gaps adequate for crossing.
Pedestrians then have to take more risks, or use a car to cross
the road where it is infeasible or dangerous on foot. And, yes,
that is fairly common - especially for the less athletic.

On another response, the evidence that lowering speed limits
reduces the number of accidents is so flawed as to be worthless.
It may, but it is also possible that it increases them.


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Nick Maclaren.
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In article ,
K wrote:

As someone who travels locally on foot more often than by car, I'm not
too fussed about anything that means drivers drive more slowly.

Even it it makes it much more difficult to cross roads on foot?

In what way do slower cars make it more difficult to cross roads?


Because it makes it much more likely that there is a continuous
stream of moving traffic, with no gaps adequate for crossing.
Pedestrians then have to take more risks, or use a car to cross
the road where it is infeasible or dangerous on foot. And, yes,
that is fairly common - especially for the less athletic.

On another response, the evidence that lowering speed limits
reduces the number of accidents is so flawed as to be worthless.
It may, but it is also possible that it increases them.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


We have a village here on the Isle of Wight with the main road from Sandown
to Newport running through it. I would say 80% of the houses etc are on one
side of said main road. A couple of years ago the speed limit was lowered to
30. There is now a very slow stream going through the village and vehicles
waiting to get out into the stream or across it, can wait for ages. For
them, a bad move.

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How do you know?

The report I read was based on the reduction of accidents in Dutch urban area
as a result of lowering speed limits.


Because (a) I am a (somewhat rusty) statistician and (b) I looked
at several of those reports including, if I recall, one about
Holland.


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In article ,
Martin wrote:

How do you know?

The report I read was based on the reduction of accidents in Dutch urban area
as a result of lowering speed limits.


Because (a) I am a (somewhat rusty) statistician and (b) I looked
at several of those reports including, if I recall, one about
Holland.


and what was the problem you identified?


Mainly the lack of any evidence that the changes were not simply the
displacement of accidents to elsewhere, but also poor evidence that
the rates quoted were both real and due to the change.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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