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They probably never stopped.

http://english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/ns...242373937.html

Another Melamine-Tainted Milk Scandal in China
2010-1-4 15:46

A new milk safety scandal has broken out in China.

Authorities in Shanghai have closed a dairy company and arrested three
executives, after milk products were found to contain high levels of the
toxic industrial chemical melamine.

According to the state-run Shanghai Daily, melamine was found in milk
powder and condensed milk made by the Shanghai Panda Dairy Co. Ltd.

Melamine is a toxic chemical used for making plastic. When added to food
it can make the protein content appear higher, but it’s highly
detrimental to human health.

Last year, more than 300,000 children were poisoned and at least six died
after drinking the tainted milk, according to Chinese state-run media.

In a similar incident last month, Chinese authorities also arrested three
employees of the Shaanxi Jinqiao Diary Company for producing
melamine-tainted milk.

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"Dead Paul" wrote in message
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[...]
Authorities in Shanghai have closed a dairy company and arrested three
executives, after milk products were found to contain high levels of the
toxic industrial chemical melamine.


[...]
In a similar incident last month, Chinese authorities also arrested three
employees of the Shaanxi Jinqiao Diary Company for producing
melamine-tainted milk.


It's about time that we started to put responsibility on people for various
corporate actions. Too many executives get away with too many things.

Iain


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On 7 Jan, 10:34, "Iain" wrote:
"Dead Paul" wrote in message

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[...]

Authorities in Shanghai have closed a dairy company and arrested three
executives, after milk products were found to contain high levels of the
toxic industrial chemical melamine.


[...]

In a similar incident last month, Chinese authorities also arrested three
employees of the Shaanxi Jinqiao Diary Company for producing
melamine-tainted milk.


It's about time that we started to put responsibility on people for various
corporate actions. *Too many executives get away with too many things.


You're joking aren't you? They regularly put corporate executives to
death in China. All those responsible for the last round of milk-
nobbling got lethal injections or life with hard labour.
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"Ste" wrote in message
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It's about time that we started to put responsibility on people for
various
corporate actions. Too many executives get away with too many things.


You're joking aren't you? They regularly put corporate executives to
death in China. All those responsible for the last round of milk-
nobbling got lethal injections or life with hard labour.
---------
You would have thought that that would have been enough of a deterrent!


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Ste wrote:

You're joking aren't you? They regularly put corporate executives to
death in China. All those responsible for the last round of milk-
nobbling got lethal injections or life with hard labour.


We should do similar things here.


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"Ste" wrote in message
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On 7 Jan, 10:34, "Iain" wrote:
"Dead Paul" wrote in message

...
[...]

Authorities in Shanghai have closed a dairy company and arrested three
executives, after milk products were found to contain high levels of the
toxic industrial chemical melamine.


[...]

In a similar incident last month, Chinese authorities also arrested
three
employees of the Shaanxi Jinqiao Diary Company for producing
melamine-tainted milk.


It's about time that we started to put responsibility on people for
various
corporate actions. Too many executives get away with too many things.


You're joking aren't you? They regularly put corporate executives to
death in China. All those responsible for the last round of milk-
nobbling got lethal injections or life with hard labour.

============

Is this the one you are referring to:
"At least six children died in 2008 after drinking contaminated baby formula
and more than 300,000 were sickened in one of the country's worst food
safety crises."
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010...nted-Milk.html

Anyway, I'm not advocating any specific sentence. I am talking about
accountability and responsibility. This is something which administrators
in the UK can get out of all too easily and seemingly too frequently with
financial reward.

Iain


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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:34:58 -0000, Iain wrote:

It's about time that we started to put responsibility on people for
various corporate actions. Too many executives get away with too many
things.


In the west I'd agree but not in China. Get caught doing this sort of
thing in China and it's curtains or not a very nice time for the rest
of your (shortened) natural.

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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:04:13 -0000, "Mr Benn"
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"Ste" wrote in message
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It's about time that we started to put responsibility on people for
various
corporate actions. Too many executives get away with too many things.


You're joking aren't you? They regularly put corporate executives to
death in China. All those responsible for the last round of milk-
nobbling got lethal injections or life with hard labour.


You would have thought that that would have been enough of a deterrent!


Obviously not. Tell that to all the people who want to reintroduce the
death penalty or increase prison sentences.

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On 7 Jan, 11:04, "Mr Benn" wrote:
"Ste" wrote in message

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It's about time that we started to put responsibility on people for
various
corporate actions. Too many executives get away with too many things.


You're joking aren't you? They regularly put corporate executives to
death in China. All those responsible for the last round of milk-
nobbling got lethal injections or life with hard labour.
---------
You would have thought that that would have been enough of a deterrent!


I wouldn't have thought that, no. Some people may have, but that's
because all they see and think about is deterrence. Without some sense
that a criminal act is morally wrong, the fact is that the only people
who are "deterred" are the easily frightened.
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On 7 Jan, 11:37, "Iain" wrote:
"Ste" wrote in message

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On 7 Jan, 10:34, "Iain" wrote:



"Dead Paul" wrote in message


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[...]


Authorities in Shanghai have closed a dairy company and arrested three
executives, after milk products were found to contain high levels of the
toxic industrial chemical melamine.


[...]


In a similar incident last month, Chinese authorities also arrested
three
employees of the Shaanxi Jinqiao Diary Company for producing
melamine-tainted milk.


It's about time that we started to put responsibility on people for
various
corporate actions. Too many executives get away with too many things.


You're joking aren't you? They regularly put corporate executives to
death in China. All those responsible for the last round of milk-
nobbling got lethal injections or life with hard labour.

============

Is this the one you are referring to:
"At least six children died in 2008 after drinking contaminated baby formula
and more than 300,000 were sickened in one of the country's worst food
safety crises."http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/01/07/world/AP-AS-China-Tainted-...

Anyway, I'm not advocating any specific sentence. *I am talking about
accountability and responsibility. *This is something which administrators
in the UK can get out of all too easily and seemingly too frequently with
financial reward.


Agreed. Remember the Potters Bar rail incident? Prescott stood up in
front of the cameras declaring there would be a full public enquiry
and all recommendations will be implemented. Bullshit. The head honcho
of Railtrack should have been shot at dawn in front of the victims
relatives.

McKevvy


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On 7 Jan, 11:37, "Iain" wrote:





"Ste" wrote in message


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On 7 Jan, 10:34, "Iain" wrote:


"Dead Paul" wrote in message


...
[...]


Authorities in Shanghai have closed a dairy company and arrested three
executives, after milk products were found to contain high levels of the
toxic industrial chemical melamine.


[...]


In a similar incident last month, Chinese authorities also arrested
three
employees of the Shaanxi Jinqiao Diary Company for producing
melamine-tainted milk.


It's about time that we started to put responsibility on people for
various
corporate actions. Too many executives get away with too many things.


You're joking aren't you? They regularly put corporate executives to
death in China. All those responsible for the last round of milk-
nobbling got lethal injections or life with hard labour.


============


Is this the one you are referring to:
"At least six children died in 2008 after drinking contaminated baby formula
and more than 300,000 were sickened in one of the country's worst food
safety crises."http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/01/07/world/AP-AS-China-Tainted-...


Anyway, I'm not advocating any specific sentence. *I am talking about
accountability and responsibility. *This is something which administrators
in the UK can get out of all too easily and seemingly too frequently with
financial reward.


Agreed. Remember the Potters Bar rail incident? Prescott stood up in
front of the cameras declaring there would be a full public enquiry
and all recommendations will be implemented. Bullshit. The head honcho
of Railtrack should have been shot at dawn in front of the victims
relatives.


Thrown in front of a train, surely?
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On 7 Jan, 10:16, Dead Paul wrote:
They probably never stopped.

http://english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/ns...242373937.html

Another Melamine-Tainted Milk Scandal in China
2010-1-4 15:46

A new milk safety scandal has broken out in China.

Authorities in Shanghai have closed a dairy company and arrested three
executives, after milk products were found to contain high levels of the
toxic industrial chemical melamine.

According to the state-run Shanghai Daily, melamine was found in milk
powder and condensed milk made by the Shanghai Panda Dairy Co. Ltd.

Melamine is a toxic chemical used for making plastic. When added to food
it can make the protein content appear higher, but it’s highly
detrimental to human health.

Last year, more than 300,000 children were poisoned and at least six died
after drinking the tainted milk, according to Chinese state-run media.

In a similar incident last month, Chinese authorities also arrested three
employees of the Shaanxi Jinqiao Diary Company for producing
melamine-tainted milk.


Proving that the death penalty doesn't work:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3e2388f4-d...=14&SID=google

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On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 10:21:17 -0800 (PST), Turk182 wrote:

Proving that the death penalty doesn't work:


I bet it works if you think there is a reasonable chance that you
will be caught. If you think you can bribe your way out of danger
you'll do it.

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On 9 Jan, 14:25, "Dave Liquorice"
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On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 10:21:17 -0800 (PST), Turk182 wrote:
Proving that the death penalty doesn't work:


I bet it works if you think there is a reasonable chance that you
will be caught. If you think you can bribe your way out of danger
you'll do it.


The truth is that virtually any punishment will work if you have a
policeman at th'elbow.
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