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Down in the village, a mile and a half away. It's 1640 sq yards and I used
to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age.
My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not
keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing stuff
on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) I
just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is
getting away from me.
I had this brilliant idea. Or is it? There is such a demand for allotments
here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and
let it on a crop sharing basis. It has a water tap and is well fenced with
6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock.
Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort!
Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has?
What does the team think?

Tina
P.S. Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+ years
ago, so it would be totally organic.







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On Jan 17, 9:57*pm, "Christina Websell"
wrote:
Down in the village, a mile and a half away. * It's 1640 sq yards and I used
to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age.
My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not
keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing stuff
on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) *I
just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is
getting away from me.
I had this brilliant idea. *Or is it? *There is such a demand for allotments
here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and
let it on a crop sharing basis. *It has a water tap and is well fenced with
6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock.
Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort!
Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has?
What does the team think?

Tina
P.S. *Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+ years
ago, so it would be totally organic.


Tina, you have so many possibilities. If it were me I would go along
the line of letting it with crop sharing, how exciting. However, if
you went along the Council route, you could ensure that you had a plot
marked out for your own use without charge. I'd love to hear how it
goes.

Judith
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On Jan 17, 9:57 pm, "Christina Websell"
wrote:
Down in the village, a mile and a half away. It's 1640 sq yards and I used
to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age.
My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not
keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing
stuff
on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) I
just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is
getting away from me.
I had this brilliant idea. Or is it? There is such a demand for allotments
here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and
let it on a crop sharing basis. It has a water tap and is well fenced with
6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock.
Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort!
Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has?
What does the team think?

Tina
P.S. Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+
years
ago, so it would be totally organic.


Tina, you have so many possibilities. If it were me I would go along
the line of letting it with crop sharing, how exciting.


There would be a rent too. As my one lettuce/cauliflower/cabbage/leek a
week wouldn't seem enough.
I bought this land when my rented land I had my goats on was going to be
built on and it cost me half as much as my house at that time. It's time I
got something back from it. I had two mortgages. 10 years on the land and
25 years on the house. That was fun. Not.

Tina








However, if
you went along the Council route, you could ensure that you had a plot
marked out for your own use without charge. I'd love to hear how it
goes.

Judith


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On 17 Jan, 21:57, "Christina Websell"
wrote:
Down in the village, a mile and a half away. * It's 1640 sq yards and I used
to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age.
My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not
keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing stuff
on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) *I
just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is
getting away from me.
I had this brilliant idea. *Or is it? *There is such a demand for allotments
here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and
let it on a crop sharing basis. *It has a water tap and is well fenced with
6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock.
Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort!
Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has?
What does the team think?

Tina
P.S. *Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+ years
ago, so it would be totally organic.


Possibly room for 36 twenty foot by twenty foot plots. Not guaranteed
to stay totally organic if you let them out individually.
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On 17 Jan, 21:57, "Christina Websell"
wrote:
Down in the village, a mile and a half away. It's 1640 sq yards and I used
to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age.
My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not
keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing
stuff
on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) I
just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is
getting away from me.
I had this brilliant idea. Or is it? There is such a demand for allotments
here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and
let it on a crop sharing basis. It has a water tap and is well fenced with
6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock.
Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort!
Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has?
What does the team think?

Tina
P.S. Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+
years
ago, so it would be totally organic.


Possibly room for 36 twenty foot by twenty foot plots. Not guaranteed
to stay totally organic if you let them out individually.
------
Oh yes, it would be. It would be a condition of tenancy.




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Possibly room for 36 twenty foot by twenty foot plots. Not guaranteed
to stay totally organic if you let them out individually.
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Oh yes, it would be. It would be a condition of tenancy.
Your difficulty would be in enforcing the condition.
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'Christina Websell[_2_ Wrote:
;874969']Possibly room for 36 twenty foot by twenty foot plots. Not
guaranteed
to stay totally organic if you let them out individually.
------
Oh yes, it would be. It would be a condition of tenancy.

Your difficulty would be in enforcing the condition.

Not really. The plotholders who embraced the organic philosophy would grass
;-)
Given the difficulty of finding land to grow stuff organically around here,
it would not be in anyone's best interest to start spraying chemicals
around - they would lose their plot.




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'Christina Websell[_2_ Wrote:
;874969']Possibly room for 36 twenty foot by twenty foot plots. Not
guaranteed
to stay totally organic if you let them out individually.
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Oh yes, it would be. It would be a condition of tenancy.
Your difficulty would be in enforcing the condition.

Not really. The plotholders who embraced the organic philosophy would
grass
;-)


That's detection. The hard bit is proving the offence was committed
by the plot holder, and enforcing the contract if he denies blame.


Let's just hope two people see it then ;-)
I would expect anyone who takes an organic plot, which are hard to come by,
and strict conditions about it, would actually want it to remain so.

Tina



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and people who lose interest and let their plot turn into a jungle of
weeds.
People who dump rubbish on their plots
People who steal garden tools
People who steal vegetables from their neighbours
...
--

Martin


and because of the above, I wouldn't bother with getting involved with other
people :-(((

Look at this lot on here, keen gardeners, but don't know how to 'prune' the
useless dross which has gone before!!!

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"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2010-01-17 23:43:34 +0000, "Christina Websell"
said:


"Tommy" wrote in message
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On 17 Jan, 21:57, "Christina Websell"
wrote:
Down in the village, a mile and a half away. It's 1640 sq yards and I
used
to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age.
My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not
keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing
stuff
on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) I
just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is
getting away from me.
I had this brilliant idea. Or is it? There is such a demand for
allotments
here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots
and
let it on a crop sharing basis. It has a water tap and is well fenced
with
6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock.
Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort!
Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has?
What does the team think?

Tina
P.S. Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+
years
ago, so it would be totally organic.


Possibly room for 36 twenty foot by twenty foot plots. Not guaranteed
to stay totally organic if you let them out individually.
------
Oh yes, it would be. It would be a condition of tenancy.


I suspect the council might refuse permission if they have their beady
eyes on it. ;-)


Ah, as it happens where I live is a small council, which is overseen by the
bigger county one - which I happen to work for, so they could not pull rank
on me ;-)
It would be unethical for them do so, anyway, and they would know this.


Is there nothing you can grow there yourself that
won't require constant attention and weeding etc. - mini-Christmas trees?!


Aw, no. I fancy the idea of letting others cultivate it and getting a crop
share.
I just don't have the time, I work 5/7 and the rest is taken up with what I
have here.

Sacha
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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:57:25 -0000, "Christina Websell"
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Down in the village, a mile and a half away. It's 1640 sq yards and I used
to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age.
My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not
keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing stuff
on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) I
just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is
getting away from me.
I had this brilliant idea. Or is it? There is such a demand for allotments
here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and
let it on a crop sharing basis. It has a water tap and is well fenced with
6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock.
Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort!
Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has?
What does the team think?

Tina
P.S. Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+ years
ago, so it would be totally organic.


Sounds great, but one caution if you let it out yourself. Insurance!
Get that sorted.
If you let the council let it, you might lose control of the land.
Consult a solicitor!







Pam in Bristol
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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:57:25 -0000, "Christina Websell"
wrote:

Down in the village, a mile and a half away. It's 1640 sq yards and I
used
to keep milk goats on it until they passed away of old age.
My local council want me to lease it to them for allotments, but I'm not
keen as they want a 10 year minimum lease and I had plans for growing
stuff
on it myself when I retire (which will be during that 10 year period.) I
just don't have time atm with working and having 1/4 acre here that is
getting away from me.
I had this brilliant idea. Or is it? There is such a demand for
allotments
here that the council cannot fulfil, that I could mark it out in plots and
let it on a crop sharing basis. It has a water tap and is well fenced
with
6 ft high gate with a key lock, not a padlock.
Thus getting veggies for myself with no effort!
Has anyone ever done this or know anyone who has?
What does the team think?

Tina
P.S. Nothing chemical has been put on this land since I bought it 25+
years
ago, so it would be totally organic.


Sounds great, but one caution if you let it out yourself. Insurance!
Get that sorted.


Good idea


If you let the council let it, you might lose control of the land.
Consult a solicitor!


I have no intention of letting the council anywhere near it. As my
grandmother used to say "do you see any green in my eye?"









Pam in Bristol



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Christina Websell wrote:

I have no intention of letting the council anywhere near it. As my
grandmother used to say "do you see any green in my eye?"


And what's wrong with green eyes? When I had contact lens overwearing,
I discovered that (underneath the brown), my eyes are grass green.
It's not exceptional in someone of largely Celtic stock ....


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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In article ,
Christina Websell wrote:

I have no intention of letting the council anywhere near it. As my
grandmother used to say "do you see any green in my eye?"


And what's wrong with green eyes? When I had contact lens overwearing,
I discovered that (underneath the brown), my eyes are grass green.
It's not exceptional in someone of largely Celtic stock ....

I assume she meant green = naive.
She also used to say in similar cirumstances "I'm not so green as
cabbage-looking."



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In article ,
Christina Websell wrote:

wrote in message
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In article ,
Christina Websell wrote:

I have no intention of letting the council anywhere near it. As my
grandmother used to say "do you see any green in my eye?"


And what's wrong with green eyes? When I had contact lens overwearing,
I discovered that (underneath the brown), my eyes are grass green.
It's not exceptional in someone of largely Celtic stock ....

I assume she meant green = naive.
She also used to say in similar cirumstances "I'm not so green as
cabbage-looking."


I deduced that! I'm quite fond of the latter aphorism in the form
"I'm not so green as I'm cabbage-looking."


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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