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Chris[_3_] 20-01-2010 09:55 AM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?
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®óñ© © ²°¹° 20-01-2010 10:09 AM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:55:51 +0000, Chris ] wrote:

Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?


Cut out the middle man



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K 20-01-2010 10:23 AM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 
Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?


Well, (some) cats do ;-)
The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure
on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still
used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are
carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.

Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and
not particularly useful to your soil.

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Kay

Broadback[_2_] 20-01-2010 12:38 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 
K wrote:
Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?


Well, (some) cats do ;-)
The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure
on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still
used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are
carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.

Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and
not particularly useful to your soil.

I am very surprised that no one had suggested burying the cat might be
more efficacious.

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®óñ© © ²°¹° 20-01-2010 12:41 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:38:25 +0000, Broadback
wrote:

K wrote:
Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?


Well, (some) cats do ;-)
The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure
on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still
used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are
carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.

Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and
not particularly useful to your soil.

I am very surprised that no one had suggested burying the cat might be
more efficacious.



Sir, Sir!



I did



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K 20-01-2010 01:58 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 
Broadback writes
K wrote:
Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?


Well, (some) cats do ;-)
The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure
on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still
used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are
carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.

Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and
not particularly useful to your soil.

I am very surprised that no one had suggested burying the cat might be
more efficacious.

You weren't reading the thread very well, then
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Kay

Broadback[_2_] 20-01-2010 03:25 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 
K wrote:
Broadback writes
K wrote:
Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?

Well, (some) cats do ;-)
The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure
on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still
used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are
carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.

Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and
not particularly useful to your soil.

I am very surprised that no one had suggested burying the cat might be
more efficacious.

You weren't reading the thread very well, then

No I read it, just a bit thick, so didn't understand hieroglyphics post! ;-(

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Bob Hobden 20-01-2010 04:15 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 


"Chris" wrote
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?


I can't see why not, had an allotment where a neighbour had dozens of cats
and we didn't have a problem. Bury it deep enough so you and others don't
accidentally handle it.
There are possible risks from faeces, horse manure is the biggest vector of
tetanus, but normal sensible hygiene is all that is required.
If you think about it, any risk can't be any worse than the daily cleaning
out of a litter tray.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK





David WE Roberts 20-01-2010 04:46 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 

"K" wrote in message
...
Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?


Well, (some) cats do ;-)
The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure on
the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still used, I
believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are carnivores, and
probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.

Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and
not particularly useful to your soil.


As far as I am aware human faeces are used as fertiliser in this country
after suitable treatment.

Google gives http://orgprints.org/8477/1/njf4.pdf which claims 30-40% of
sewage sludge is used as fertiliser in Nordic countries.

Also
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ser-crops.html.

I am pretty sure they used to use it (and may still) around Suffolk.

It is treated to destroy pathogens, though, so I wouldn't use cat crap as
the main source of fertiliser for your slad crops :-)

Cheers

Dave R


Part_No 20-01-2010 04:47 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 
"Bob Hobden" wrote in
:



"Chris" wrote
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?


I can't see why not, had an allotment where a neighbour had dozens of
cats and we didn't have a problem. Bury it deep enough so you and
others don't accidentally handle it.
There are possible risks from faeces, horse manure is the biggest
vector of tetanus, but normal sensible hygiene is all that is
required. If you think about it, any risk can't be any worse than the
daily cleaning out of a litter tray.


Cat droppings are the PAIN OF MY LIFE in my garden.
I have made a few frames covered with netting to stop them pooing on my
freshly dug ground, and it works, but at sowing time I don't have enough
of them.
If I made enough for all of my areas I would be continually shifting
them, one at a time, for every move I make.

Lazy cat owners should be made to account for their furry pets poos.

I wouldn't hurt a cat or any animal, but the owners!!!!

Cats should be on leads in my opinion as dogs are.

More than a bobs(shilling)worth of my opinion

Part_No

David WE Roberts 20-01-2010 04:49 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 

"®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:55:51 +0000, Chris ] wrote:

Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?


Cut out the middle man


Ambiguous - I took this to mean that you should get your cats to bury their
own droppings in the garden.




CT 20-01-2010 04:52 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 
Martin wrote:

I recall a ban on products being sold for gardens by Reading Sewage
Works, because of the high heavy metals content.


Ah, that'll be the Rock Festival causes that!

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Gopher 20-01-2010 05:18 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 
In message , Part_No
writes
"Bob Hobden" wrote in
:



"Chris" wrote
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?


I can't see why not, had an allotment where a neighbour had dozens of
cats and we didn't have a problem. Bury it deep enough so you and
others don't accidentally handle it.
There are possible risks from faeces, horse manure is the biggest
vector of tetanus, but normal sensible hygiene is all that is
required. If you think about it, any risk can't be any worse than the
daily cleaning out of a litter tray.


Cat droppings are the PAIN OF MY LIFE in my garden.
I have made a few frames covered with netting to stop them pooing on my
freshly dug ground, and it works, but at sowing time I don't have enough
of them.
If I made enough for all of my areas I would be continually shifting
them, one at a time, for every move I make.

Lazy cat owners should be made to account for their furry pets poos.

I wouldn't hurt a cat or any animal, but the owners!!!!

Cats should be on leads in my opinion as dogs are.

More than a bobs(shilling)worth of my opinion

Part_No


We live in a relatively isolated area and have a neighbour who has a
number of cats. Having requested help to control the mess - frequently
in our garden - and had the request ignored, we found that placing the
offending mess in an envelope and posting it through the neighbour's
letterbox was a pretty effective way of stopping the nuisance. We gave
several warnings that this would happen before actually doing it. We
don't have the problem any more.

As dog owners, as well as "hosting" our daughter's pooch when she and
brood are on holiday, we are well aware of the need for pets to be
emptied regularly however the process can be managed without turning
other areas into feline/canine lavatories. Pet owners must take
responsibility for their pets!

--
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Bob Hobden 20-01-2010 05:19 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 


"Part_No" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote
"Chris" wrote
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?


I can't see why not, had an allotment where a neighbour had dozens of
cats and we didn't have a problem. Bury it deep enough so you and
others don't accidentally handle it.
There are possible risks from faeces, horse manure is the biggest
vector of tetanus, but normal sensible hygiene is all that is
required. If you think about it, any risk can't be any worse than the
daily cleaning out of a litter tray.


Cat droppings are the PAIN OF MY LIFE in my garden.


Why??? Birds, insects, small animals constantly foul your garden so why pick
on cats, they at least normally bury their poo and there is a bonus in that
they do something about other pests. (mice, rats, pigeons...)
God forbid you get a fox with cubs in your garden, from experience on our
allotment, they really do know how to destroy stuff.

I have made a few frames covered with netting to stop them pooing on my
freshly dug ground, and it works, but at sowing time I don't have enough
of them.
If I made enough for all of my areas I would be continually shifting
them, one at a time, for every move I make.


What's wrong with them pooing on your ground, just ignore it.

Lazy cat owners should be made to account for their furry pets poos.


As a cat owner I don't understand what is lazy about an owner allowing their
cat out.
I have one, now elderly pedigree cat (19.5), who has never pood outside, she
has always used a tray, even come in to use it, the other is a young stray
and lived feral for a while (under our BBQ) and he won't consider a tray
even though we have constantly tried to encourage him too.

Part of the problem is breeders that allow non-pedigree kittens to be
sold/given away before they are 12 weeks old. The organisation in charge of
Pedigree Cats insists they have to be. By that time the mother will have
house trained them and taught them to use a tray and it will stay with them
for life as it has all our pedigree cats.

Perhaps you could start a petition for a new law on that topic. 12 weeks
minimum before they leave their mother.


I wouldn't hurt a cat or any animal, but the owners!!!!

Cats should be on leads in my opinion as dogs are.

More than a bobs(shilling)worth of my opinion

Dogs and irresponsible owners of; now don't get me on that topic!!! :-)

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK





Spider[_2_] 20-01-2010 05:34 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...


"Part_No" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote
"Chris" wrote
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?

I can't see why not, had an allotment where a neighbour had dozens of
cats and we didn't have a problem. Bury it deep enough so you and
others don't accidentally handle it.
There are possible risks from faeces, horse manure is the biggest
vector of tetanus, but normal sensible hygiene is all that is
required. If you think about it, any risk can't be any worse than the
daily cleaning out of a litter tray.


Cat droppings are the PAIN OF MY LIFE in my garden.


Why??? Birds, insects, small animals constantly foul your garden so why
pick on cats, they at least normally bury their poo and there is a bonus
in that they do something about other pests. (mice, rats, pigeons...)
God forbid you get a fox with cubs in your garden, from experience on our
allotment, they really do know how to destroy stuff.

I have made a few frames covered with netting to stop them pooing on my
freshly dug ground, and it works, but at sowing time I don't have enough
of them.
If I made enough for all of my areas I would be continually shifting
them, one at a time, for every move I make.


What's wrong with them pooing on your ground, just ignore it.

Lazy cat owners should be made to account for their furry pets poos.


As a cat owner I don't understand what is lazy about an owner allowing
their cat out.
I have one, now elderly pedigree cat (19.5), who has never pood outside,
she has always used a tray, even come in to use it, the other is a young
stray and lived feral for a while (under our BBQ) and he won't consider a
tray even though we have constantly tried to encourage him too.

Part of the problem is breeders that allow non-pedigree kittens to be
sold/given away before they are 12 weeks old. The organisation in charge
of Pedigree Cats insists they have to be. By that time the mother will
have house trained them and taught them to use a tray and it will stay
with them for life as it has all our pedigree cats.

Perhaps you could start a petition for a new law on that topic. 12 weeks
minimum before they leave their mother.


I wouldn't hurt a cat or any animal, but the owners!!!!

Cats should be on leads in my opinion as dogs are.

More than a bobs(shilling)worth of my opinion

Dogs and irresponsible owners of; now don't get me on that topic!!! :-)

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK


Actually, Bob, 12 weeks is too long. It is a well known fact that kittens
who are over 12 weeks old before being homed with a human family are less
likely to bond with people and adapt to training. This would make them less
controllable, not more. Eight weeks is quite good enough if they've been
reared responsibly.

Although my garden is used by cats (including my own) and foxes, it is the
fox's poo that is the most dificult to deal with. It is deposited openly
where one can't avoid finding it, often in the middle of a plant where it
can't easily be cleaned up. To make matters worse, it is usually alive with
worms :~(. Apart from this, I don't have any problem with foxes and don't
attempt to deter them. Both the cats and the foxes help to keep down
vermin.

Spider



Sue[_7_] 20-01-2010 05:35 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 

"CT" wrote
Martin wrote:

I recall a ban on products being sold for gardens by Reading Sewage
Works, because of the high heavy metals content.


Ah, that'll be the Rock Festival causes that!


Heh. :)

Yes, sewage waste is often used as fertiliser in agricultural areas to
my knowledge. They treat it and dry it and then call the result
biosolids to make it sound more 'refained' ;)
There's probably info on local water supplier's websites.
--
Sue


®óñ© © ²°¹° 20-01-2010 08:00 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:49:06 -0000, "David WE Roberts"
wrote:


"®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:55:51 +0000, Chris ] wrote:

Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?


Cut out the middle man


Ambiguous - I took this to mean that you should get your cats to bury their
own droppings in the garden.



No Sir. I was implying that one could, if one so wished, inter the
vector


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graham 20-01-2010 08:04 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...

"K" wrote in message
...
Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?


Well, (some) cats do ;-)
The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure
on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still used,
I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are carnivores, and
probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.

Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and
not particularly useful to your soil.


As far as I am aware human faeces are used as fertiliser in this country
after suitable treatment.

Google gives http://orgprints.org/8477/1/njf4.pdf which claims 30-40% of
sewage sludge is used as fertiliser in Nordic countries.

Also
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ser-crops.html.

I am pretty sure they used to use it (and may still) around Suffolk.

It is treated to destroy pathogens, though, so I wouldn't use cat crap as
the main source of fertiliser for your slad crops :-)

I remember a large dump of it on the old Ipswich Airport. It was an
excellet source of tomato plants!
Graham



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Dave Liquorice[_2_] 20-01-2010 08:46 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:34:17 -0000, Spider wrote:

Lazy cat owners ...


As a cat owner ...


Although my garden is used by cats (including my own) ...


You're all forgetting something. Cats don't have owners they have
staff.

--
Cheers
Dave.




David WE Roberts 20-01-2010 10:08 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 

"®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:49:06 -0000, "David WE Roberts"
wrote:


"®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:55:51 +0000, Chris ] wrote:

Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?

Cut out the middle man


Ambiguous - I took this to mean that you should get your cats to bury
their
own droppings in the garden.



No Sir. I was implying that one could, if one so wished, inter the
vector


"inter the vector" is that code (big boy)?


Spider[_2_] 20-01-2010 10:23 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:34:17 -0000, Spider wrote:

Lazy cat owners ...

As a cat owner ...


Although my garden is used by cats (including my own) ...


You're all forgetting something. Cats don't have owners they have
staff.

--
Cheers
Dave.


:~) Well, I'm the bossiest staff any cat ever had, then. You should be in
my house when there's a feline misdemeanour! I train my cats so they know
when they've done something wrong but, just to be on the safe side, I
explain it to them again!

Spider



Bob Hobden 20-01-2010 10:54 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 


"Spider" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote ((BIG SNIP))
Part of the problem is breeders that allow non-pedigree kittens to be
sold/given away before they are 12 weeks old. The organisation in charge
of Pedigree Cats insists they have to be. By that time the mother will
have house trained them and taught them to use a tray and it will stay
with them for life as it has all our pedigree cats.

Perhaps you could start a petition for a new law on that topic. 12 weeks
minimum before they leave their mother.

Actually, Bob, 12 weeks is too long. It is a well known fact that kittens
who are over 12 weeks old before being homed with a human family are less
likely to bond with people and adapt to training. This would make them
less controllable, not more. Eight weeks is quite good enough if they've
been reared responsibly.

The pedigree cats have to be 12 weeks old before they are sold and I can't
say ours ever had problems getting us retrained to their preferences.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK


Bill Grey 20-01-2010 11:05 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 

"Spider" wrote in message
...

(Large amopunt snipped for brevity)


Although my garden is used by cats (including my own) and foxes, it is the
fox's poo that is the most dificult to deal with. It is deposited openly
where one can't avoid finding it, often in the middle of a plant where it
can't easily be cleaned up. Spider


The fox has shown you the way to solve your problem. Place something
prominent like a large log or boulder for him to crap on. He is marking his
territory by so doing, and you can then easily remove the mess and keep your
plants safe from his antics.


Bill



Spider[_2_] 21-01-2010 01:57 PM

OK to bury cat droppings?
 
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

"Spider" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote ((BIG SNIP))
Part of the problem is breeders that allow non-pedigree kittens to be
sold/given away before they are 12 weeks old. The organisation in charge
of Pedigree Cats insists they have to be. By that time the mother will
have house trained them and taught them to use a tray and it will stay
with them for life as it has all our pedigree cats.

Perhaps you could start a petition for a new law on that topic. 12 weeks
minimum before they leave their mother.

Actually, Bob, 12 weeks is too long. It is a well known fact that
kittens who are over 12 weeks old before being homed with a human family
are less likely to bond with people and adapt to training. This would
make them less controllable, not more. Eight weeks is quite good enough
if they've been reared responsibly.

The pedigree cats have to be 12 weeks old before they are sold and I can't
say ours ever had problems getting us retrained to their preferences. --
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK

:~)) Oh, I'm sure they're very happy with the arrangement! However, RG
doesn't like cats but tolerates them provided they're trained not to jump up
on tables, in the kitchen, on the furniture, up the stairs *anywhere*.
Training an 8wk old cat is infinitely easier than training an 12wk old cat;
I know, I've tried it. I had real trouble with my 12wk older cat until I
tried 'growl speak' with her. Oh boy, did she toe the line then! :~)

Spider



Spider[_2_] 21-01-2010 02:02 PM

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"Bill Grey" wrote in message
...

"Spider" wrote in message
...

(Large amopunt snipped for brevity)


Although my garden is used by cats (including my own) and foxes, it is
the fox's poo that is the most dificult to deal with. It is deposited
openly where one can't avoid finding it, often in the middle of a plant
where it can't easily be cleaned up. Spider


The fox has shown you the way to solve your problem. Place something
prominent like a large log or boulder for him to crap on. He is marking
his territory by so doing, and you can then easily remove the mess and
keep your plants safe from his antics.

Bill


Thanks, Bill. It sounds like good behavioural training, doesn't it? Alas,
I've got umpteen things around my garden which foxy might use, but s/he
seems to prefer plants - especially new plants ... and, no, I'm not going to
stop putting plants in the garden just to curtail (heh heh) foxy's
inappropriate toiletting:~).

Spider




Bigal 21-01-2010 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider[_2_] (Post 875282)
"Bill Grey" wrote in message
...

"Spider"
lid wrote in message
...

(Large amopunt snipped for brevity)


Although my garden is used by cats (including my own) and foxes, it is
the fox's poo that is the most dificult to deal with. It is deposited
openly where one can't avoid finding it, often in the middle of a plant
where it can't easily be cleaned up. Spider


The fox has shown you the way to solve your problem. Place something
prominent like a large log or boulder for him to crap on. He is marking
his territory by so doing, and you can then easily remove the mess and
keep your plants safe from his antics.

Bill


Thanks, Bill. It sounds like good behavioural training, doesn't it? Alas,
I've got umpteen things around my garden which foxy might use, but s/he
seems to prefer plants - especially new plants ... and, no, I'm not going to
stop putting plants in the garden just to curtail (heh heh) foxy's
inappropriate toiletting:~).

Spider

Going back to the subject, whilst I remember it, I read of someone who removed the crap from the littter tray, and used the litter which was soaked in urine. The trouble is that I cannot remember exactly what they did with it (memory again). With urine being a good ferrtilizer, it may be that it was thrown on a compost heap, but I am getting an idea that the whole lot was soakeed in water to make a liquid manure. Anyone else read this?
Bigal

alan.holmes 21-01-2010 07:28 PM

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"®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:49:06 -0000, "David WE Roberts"
wrote:


"®óñ© © ²°¹°" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:55:51 +0000, Chris ] wrote:

Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?

Cut out the middle man


Ambiguous - I took this to mean that you should get your cats to bury
their
own droppings in the garden.



No Sir. I was implying that one could, if one so wished, inter the
vector


Could you please interpret that into 'simple' english?





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alan.holmes 21-01-2010 07:29 PM

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"Broadback" wrote in message
...
K wrote:
Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?


Well, (some) cats do ;-)
The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure
on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still
used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are
carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.

Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and
not particularly useful to your soil.

I am very surprised that no one had suggested burying the cat might be
more efficacious.


We have buried six in our garden and there has been no noticable difference!




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®óñ© © ²°¹° 21-01-2010 07:33 PM

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On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:28:13 -0000, "alan.holmes"
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:55:51 +0000, Chris ] wrote:

Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?

Cut out the middle man

Ambiguous - I took this to mean that you should get your cats to bury
their
own droppings in the garden.



No Sir. I was implying that one could, if one so wished, inter the
vector


Could you please interpret that into 'simple' english?


Take one cat

Inter in turd

QED



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Spider[_2_] 21-01-2010 09:19 PM

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"alan.holmes" wrote in message
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"Broadback" wrote in message
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K wrote:
Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?

Well, (some) cats do ;-)
The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure
on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still
used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are
carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.

Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and
not particularly useful to your soil.

I am very surprised that no one had suggested burying the cat might be
more efficacious.


We have buried six in our garden and there has been no noticable
difference!

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We have buried four in our garden and .. likewise.
If your own cats don't 'use' your garden, then an incoming cat *will*. At
least you know you've wormed your own cats.

Spider



graham 21-01-2010 10:37 PM

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:55:51 +0000, Chris ] wrote:

Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?

Cut out the middle man

Ambiguous - I took this to mean that you should get your cats to bury
their
own droppings in the garden.


No Sir. I was implying that one could, if one so wished, inter the
vector


Could you please interpret that into 'simple' english?


Take one cat

Inter in turd

then it's interred in turd!



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Chris[_3_] 22-01-2010 06:33 AM

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In article , K
writes
Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?



The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure
on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still
used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are
carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.



Thanks for that.
I will bag up and bin it.
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Christina Websell[_2_] 23-01-2010 12:33 AM

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"graham" wrote in message
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"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
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"K" wrote in message
...
Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?

Well, (some) cats do ;-)
The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure
on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still
used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are
carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.

Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and
not particularly useful to your soil.


As far as I am aware human faeces are used as fertiliser in this country
after suitable treatment.

Google gives http://orgprints.org/8477/1/njf4.pdf which claims 30-40% of
sewage sludge is used as fertiliser in Nordic countries.

Also
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ser-crops.html.

I am pretty sure they used to use it (and may still) around Suffolk.

It is treated to destroy pathogens, though, so I wouldn't use cat crap as
the main source of fertiliser for your slad crops :-)

I remember a large dump of it on the old Ipswich Airport. It was an
excellet source of tomato plants!
Graham

I'm always surprised there isn't a good crop of maize too.
Why anyone eats sweetcorn escapes me - it comes out exactly as it goes in.
Tina

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Christina Websell[_2_] 23-01-2010 12:42 AM

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"Part_No" wrote in message
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Lazy cat owners should be made to account for their furry pets poos.


How are cat owners lazy?
It is recognised in law that cats cannot be controlled or trained and their
owners are not responsible for what they do. Unlike dogs.




graham 23-01-2010 02:34 AM

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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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"Part_No" wrote in message
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Lazy cat owners should be made to account for their furry pets poos.


How are cat owners lazy?
It is recognised in law that cats cannot be controlled or trained and
their owners are not responsible for what they do. Unlike dogs.

Evidently, the Law Lords who originally came up with that were cat
lovers!!!!
Pet owners are ALWAYS responsible for their pets!
Graham



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Roger & Barbara Tonkin 23-01-2010 12:34 PM

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Personnally I would recomend burying the droppins BEFORE they leave the cat!

Spider[_2_] 23-01-2010 12:53 PM

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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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"Part_No" wrote in message
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Lazy cat owners should be made to account for their furry pets poos.


How are cat owners lazy?
It is recognised in law that cats cannot be controlled or trained and
their owners are not responsible for what they do. Unlike dogs.


This is quite true, Tina. Nevertheless, I put a lot of effort into training
my cats and it does make a difference. However, I'm aware that I can't
follow them around the road whilst they poop. If I'm in the garden and see
them next door about to poop, then I tell them off. However, I believe they
mainly wee next door and use my garden for their poop, which suits me fine.
I am the kind of responsible cat owner who likes to examine the poop
periodically to check for looseness or worms. I should point out that I do
worm my cats, but when puss decides to eat a worm-infested mouse, it's got
to come out somewhere :~(. I can only hope that doesn't happen next door
when I'm not there to stop it.


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Fuschia[_3_] 23-01-2010 01:53 PM

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On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:34:39 -0700, "graham" wrote:


"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...

"Part_No" wrote in message
...
Lazy cat owners should be made to account for their furry pets poos.


How are cat owners lazy?
It is recognised in law that cats cannot be controlled or trained and
their owners are not responsible for what they do. Unlike dogs.

Evidently, the Law Lords who originally came up with that were cat
lovers!!!!
Pet owners are ALWAYS responsible for their pets!
Graham


I agree with you Graham.
Bringing any sort of pet into your home or garden means you are
responsible for what it does. It's no good trying to blame it on the
animal's 'nature' because you should be aware of that nature before
you take it in. If you are not prepared to accept responsibility for
what your pet does then you shouldn't keep it.
And the same goes for children of course!

®óñ© © ²°¹° 23-01-2010 04:56 PM

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On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:50:49 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

Law Lords don't make laws.


Au contraire. They amend, adjust and tweak virtually every piece of
Government legislation. Their adjustments and suggestions are more
often than not incorporated into laws as their scrutiny is usually
more rigorous than that of the lower chamber.



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®óñ© © ²°¹° 23-01-2010 06:54 PM

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On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:40:02 GMT, Janet Baraclough
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:50:49 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:


Law Lords don't make laws.


Au contraire. They amend, adjust and tweak virtually every piece of
Government legislation Their adjustments and suggestions are more
often than not incorporated into laws as their scrutiny is usually
more rigorous than that of the lower chamber.


Every amendment, tweak and adjustment has to be approved by both houses
of parliament;
and is therefore their collective responsibility.


Ergo, so it must be admitted that the Upper Chamber does have a large
part to play in "making law"


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