Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:55:51 +0000, Chris ] wrote:

Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?

Cut out the middle man



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Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?

Well, (some) cats do ;-)
The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure
on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still
used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are
carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.

Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and
not particularly useful to your soil.

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K wrote:
Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?

Well, (some) cats do ;-)
The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure
on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still
used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are
carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.

Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and
not particularly useful to your soil.

I am very surprised that no one had suggested burying the cat might be
more efficacious.

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:38:25 +0000, Broadback
wrote:

K wrote:
Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?

Well, (some) cats do ;-)
The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure
on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still
used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are
carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.

Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and
not particularly useful to your soil.

I am very surprised that no one had suggested burying the cat might be
more efficacious.


Sir, Sir!



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Broadback writes
K wrote:
Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?

Well, (some) cats do ;-)
The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure
on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still
used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are
carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.

Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and
not particularly useful to your soil.

I am very surprised that no one had suggested burying the cat might be
more efficacious.

You weren't reading the thread very well, then
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K wrote:
Broadback writes
K wrote:
Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?

Well, (some) cats do ;-)
The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure
on the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still
used, I believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are
carnivores, and probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.

Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and
not particularly useful to your soil.

I am very surprised that no one had suggested burying the cat might be
more efficacious.

You weren't reading the thread very well, then
No I read it, just a bit thick, so didn't understand hieroglyphics post! ;-(

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"Chris" wrote
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?

I can't see why not, had an allotment where a neighbour had dozens of cats
and we didn't have a problem. Bury it deep enough so you and others don't
accidentally handle it.
There are possible risks from faeces, horse manure is the biggest vector of
tetanus, but normal sensible hygiene is all that is required.
If you think about it, any risk can't be any worse than the daily cleaning
out of a litter tray.

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W.of London. UK

"K" wrote in message
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Chris ] writes
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?

Well, (some) cats do ;-)
The theory is that the closer the digestive system is to ours, the more
likely it is that the faeces will carry organisms that are a problem to
us. So herbivore faeces are no problem, and we happily use horse manure on
the garden. Human faeces are potentially a problem (though still used, I
believe, in some parts of the world). Dogs and cats are carnivores, and
probably not a good idea to use their faeces in bulk.

Also, if it's come from a litter tray, the litter is basically clay and
not particularly useful to your soil.

As far as I am aware human faeces are used as fertiliser in this country
after suitable treatment.

Google gives http://orgprints.org/8477/1/njf4.pdf which claims 30-40% of
sewage sludge is used as fertiliser in Nordic countries.

Also
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ser-crops.html.

I am pretty sure they used to use it (and may still) around Suffolk.

It is treated to destroy pathogens, though, so I wouldn't use cat crap as
the main source of fertiliser for your slad crops :-)

Cheers

Dave R

"Bob Hobden" wrote in
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"Chris" wrote
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?

I can't see why not, had an allotment where a neighbour had dozens of
cats and we didn't have a problem. Bury it deep enough so you and
others don't accidentally handle it.
There are possible risks from faeces, horse manure is the biggest
vector of tetanus, but normal sensible hygiene is all that is
required. If you think about it, any risk can't be any worse than the
daily cleaning out of a litter tray.


Cat droppings are the PAIN OF MY LIFE in my garden.
I have made a few frames covered with netting to stop them pooing on my
freshly dug ground, and it works, but at sowing time I don't have enough
of them.
If I made enough for all of my areas I would be continually shifting
them, one at a time, for every move I make.

Lazy cat owners should be made to account for their furry pets poos.

I wouldn't hurt a cat or any animal, but the owners!!!!

Cats should be on leads in my opinion as dogs are.

More than a bobs(shilling)worth of my opinion

Part_No

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:55:51 +0000, Chris ] wrote:

Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?

Cut out the middle man

Ambiguous - I took this to mean that you should get your cats to bury their
own droppings in the garden.

Martin wrote:

I recall a ban on products being sold for gardens by Reading Sewage
Works, because of the high heavy metals content.

Ah, that'll be the Rock Festival causes that!

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"Bob Hobden" wrote in
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"Chris" wrote
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?

I can't see why not, had an allotment where a neighbour had dozens of
cats and we didn't have a problem. Bury it deep enough so you and
others don't accidentally handle it.
There are possible risks from faeces, horse manure is the biggest
vector of tetanus, but normal sensible hygiene is all that is
required. If you think about it, any risk can't be any worse than the
daily cleaning out of a litter tray.


Cat droppings are the PAIN OF MY LIFE in my garden.
I have made a few frames covered with netting to stop them pooing on my
freshly dug ground, and it works, but at sowing time I don't have enough
of them.
If I made enough for all of my areas I would be continually shifting
them, one at a time, for every move I make.

Lazy cat owners should be made to account for their furry pets poos.

I wouldn't hurt a cat or any animal, but the owners!!!!

Cats should be on leads in my opinion as dogs are.

More than a bobs(shilling)worth of my opinion

Part_No

We live in a relatively isolated area and have a neighbour who has a
number of cats. Having requested help to control the mess - frequently
in our garden - and had the request ignored, we found that placing the
offending mess in an envelope and posting it through the neighbour's
letterbox was a pretty effective way of stopping the nuisance. We gave
several warnings that this would happen before actually doing it. We
don't have the problem any more.

As dog owners, as well as "hosting" our daughter's pooch when she and
brood are on holiday, we are well aware of the need for pets to be
emptied regularly however the process can be managed without turning
other areas into feline/canine lavatories. Pet owners must take
responsibility for their pets!

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"Part_No" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote
"Chris" wrote
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?

I can't see why not, had an allotment where a neighbour had dozens of
cats and we didn't have a problem. Bury it deep enough so you and
others don't accidentally handle it.
There are possible risks from faeces, horse manure is the biggest
vector of tetanus, but normal sensible hygiene is all that is
required. If you think about it, any risk can't be any worse than the
daily cleaning out of a litter tray.


Cat droppings are the PAIN OF MY LIFE in my garden.

Why??? Birds, insects, small animals constantly foul your garden so why pick
on cats, they at least normally bury their poo and there is a bonus in that
they do something about other pests. (mice, rats, pigeons...)
God forbid you get a fox with cubs in your garden, from experience on our
allotment, they really do know how to destroy stuff.

I have made a few frames covered with netting to stop them pooing on my
freshly dug ground, and it works, but at sowing time I don't have enough
of them.
If I made enough for all of my areas I would be continually shifting
them, one at a time, for every move I make.


What's wrong with them pooing on your ground, just ignore it.

Lazy cat owners should be made to account for their furry pets poos.

As a cat owner I don't understand what is lazy about an owner allowing their
cat out.
I have one, now elderly pedigree cat (19.5), who has never pood outside, she
has always used a tray, even come in to use it, the other is a young stray
and lived feral for a while (under our BBQ) and he won't consider a tray
even though we have constantly tried to encourage him too.

Part of the problem is breeders that allow non-pedigree kittens to be
sold/given away before they are 12 weeks old. The organisation in charge of
Pedigree Cats insists they have to be. By that time the mother will have
house trained them and taught them to use a tray and it will stay with them
for life as it has all our pedigree cats.

Perhaps you could start a petition for a new law on that topic. 12 weeks
minimum before they leave their mother.


I wouldn't hurt a cat or any animal, but the owners!!!!

Cats should be on leads in my opinion as dogs are.

More than a bobs(shilling)worth of my opinion

Dogs and irresponsible owners of; now don't get me on that topic!!! :-)

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Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
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"Part_No" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote
"Chris" wrote
Is it OK to bury cat droppings?
Would it be OK under apple trees or gooseberry bushes?

I can't see why not, had an allotment where a neighbour had dozens of
cats and we didn't have a problem. Bury it deep enough so you and
others don't accidentally handle it.
There are possible risks from faeces, horse manure is the biggest
vector of tetanus, but normal sensible hygiene is all that is
required. If you think about it, any risk can't be any worse than the
daily cleaning out of a litter tray.


Cat droppings are the PAIN OF MY LIFE in my garden.

Why??? Birds, insects, small animals constantly foul your garden so why
pick on cats, they at least normally bury their poo and there is a bonus
in that they do something about other pests. (mice, rats, pigeons...)
God forbid you get a fox with cubs in your garden, from experience on our
allotment, they really do know how to destroy stuff.

I have made a few frames covered with netting to stop them pooing on my
freshly dug ground, and it works, but at sowing time I don't have enough
of them.
If I made enough for all of my areas I would be continually shifting
them, one at a time, for every move I make.


What's wrong with them pooing on your ground, just ignore it.

Lazy cat owners should be made to account for their furry pets poos.

As a cat owner I don't understand what is lazy about an owner allowing
their cat out.
I have one, now elderly pedigree cat (19.5), who has never pood outside,
she has always used a tray, even come in to use it, the other is a young
stray and lived feral for a while (under our BBQ) and he won't consider a
tray even though we have constantly tried to encourage him too.

Part of the problem is breeders that allow non-pedigree kittens to be
sold/given away before they are 12 weeks old. The organisation in charge
of Pedigree Cats insists they have to be. By that time the mother will
have house trained them and taught them to use a tray and it will stay
with them for life as it has all our pedigree cats.

Perhaps you could start a petition for a new law on that topic. 12 weeks
minimum before they leave their mother.


I wouldn't hurt a cat or any animal, but the owners!!!!

Cats should be on leads in my opinion as dogs are.

More than a bobs(shilling)worth of my opinion

Dogs and irresponsible owners of; now don't get me on that topic!!! :-)

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Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK


Actually, Bob, 12 weeks is too long. It is a well known fact that kittens
who are over 12 weeks old before being homed with a human family are less
likely to bond with people and adapt to training. This would make them less
controllable, not more. Eight weeks is quite good enough if they've been
reared responsibly.

Although my garden is used by cats (including my own) and foxes, it is the
fox's poo that is the most dificult to deal with. It is deposited openly
where one can't avoid finding it, often in the middle of a plant where it
can't easily be cleaned up. To make matters worse, it is usually alive with
worms :~(. Apart from this, I don't have any problem with foxes and don't
attempt to deter them. Both the cats and the foxes help to keep down
vermin.

Spider