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walking boots-- which are good?
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010, SMS wrote:
Bill Grey wrote: "Gordon" wrote in message ... "SMS" wrote in message ... 1. GORE-TEX® lining (or other breathable waterproof membrane lining) for breathable waterproofness (nearly all mid to high end boots have this). NEVER buy hiking boots that lack a breathable waterproof membrane lining. Again TOTAL TRIPE! Why bother with extra linings when you don't need them? As I stated - the ability of goretex linings to breath is restricted by the ability of the leather to breathe, so why bother with the goretex? It's a gimmick designed to con punters. I'll try to convert you Gordon - have a look at:- http://www.explainthatstuff.com/goretex.html I love the stuff :-) I doubt if you'll have any success. "Anti-GoreTex" is like a religion. Facts have no effect. And your "Pro-Gore-Tex" isn't a religion? It's not really clear if you understand the material, or are simply spouting what you read in the books. Your cutting and pasting right down to the Vibram lug soles is a good giveaway. People aren't anti-Gore-Tex. They are simply questioning the value of it in boots, indeed questioning your blind acceptance of Gore-Tex in boots. I've worn Gore-Tex or "Gore-Tex like" jackets for a quarter century, indeed feel Gore-Tex wins out over the other workalikes. I even have a winter parka that has one of the workalikes in it, it is less important there since snow doesn't tend to be as wet as rain. There will never be a time when I don't have a Gore-Tex or workalike rain jacket. But I know the limitations. If I sweat in something, Gore-Tex isn't going to make me sweat less, it's just going to help get rid of that sweat. But, it's adding another layer, so better to think of it as neutral, a Gore-Tex lining won't make a jacket worse. But it can't improve what already exists, which is why there are Gore-Tex jackets walking around with underarm zippers. If I wear a fleece jacket underneath, that will make me sweat and even collect some of the sweat, the Gore-Tex will merely mean I wont' sweat like I'm wearing a plastic bag. Gore-Tex won't protect your boots. It may help to keep your feet dry, but that depends on how well your sweat can dissipate through whatever outlets it can. Your feet won't get wet from outside water, but only if the seams are all well done and the Gore-Tex well protected (ie another layer to make you sweat) and as pointed out, so long as the water doesn't come in over the top. There are precautions one can take to keep feet dry, and that includes proper waterproofing of the outside and of course hoping the stitching is good and holds up. For most rain, that will be fine. If you're actually walking through water, something else may be appropriate. Note that the US army jungle boots from the Vietnam Era had Vibram lug soles, but the uppers were of a material that neither kept the water in nor out. It was a realization that the feet would get wet, so better to design them so the water can drain out, rather than have people walking in sloshy boots all day. Michael |
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