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clean with magazine sheets but not newspaper?
After reading our newspapers we end up with an oily dirt on our hands, but
not after reading the magazine supplements that come inside the newspapers or the television guide magazines. I wondering what the significance is with regard to using sheets from the magazines with regard to wrapping food. I know you are not suppose to use newspaper. But is it alright to use the magazine sheets for wrapping food? Also are they both alright to use in garden composting? This question is also relevant when using dampened magazine sheets to clean down food surfaces and clean windows etc. Would anyone know how to explain simply how the method of printing is done differently between the magazines and the newspapers? Thanks for any advice. |
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clean with magazine sheets but not newspaper?
"john hamilton" wrote in message ... After reading our newspapers we end up with an oily dirt on our hands, but not after reading the magazine supplements that come inside the newspapers or the television guide magazines. I wondering what the significance is with regard to using sheets from the magazines with regard to wrapping food. I know you are not suppose to use newspaper. But is it alright to use the magazine sheets for wrapping food? Also are they both alright to use in garden composting? This question is also relevant when using dampened magazine sheets to clean down food surfaces and clean windows etc. Would anyone know how to explain simply how the method of printing is done differently between the magazines and the newspapers? Thanks for any advice. I think you only need to use your nose: though with widespread colour the line between magazine and newspaper is increasingly blurred. Most magazines smell horrible, and many give me a headache, therefore the ink isn't dry, and you don't want it in your food. (Some may be done on photocopiers, but even cured plastic toner can transfer on to say over head projector slides if you leave them stacked together too long.) I'm a bit out of date but one of the more headachy solvents I used to hate and smell in magazines was cyclohexanone. There are large numbers of inks and formulations as there is still a touch of alchemy involved. Many magazines still have ink that doesn't dry completely and you can quite often get a reversed image if you insert a piece of plastic and weigh it down for a while. You probably don't smudge it because most of the time your fingers are on the border of a magazine whereas you tend to touch the ink when you are folding the newspaper to read it. Shiny magazine paper is a pain to anyone who likes to make notes in margins etc. as biro smudges all over the place and pencil either won't write on it or rips it to pieces. Years ago they did feature non dirty newspaper ink in Tomorrow's World. Like everything else in that prog, it never caught on. S |
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clean with magazine sheets but not newspaper?
"Spamlet" wrote in message ... "john hamilton" wrote in message ... After reading our newspapers we end up with an oily dirt on our hands, but not after reading the magazine supplements that come inside the newspapers or the television guide magazines. I wondering what the significance is with regard to using sheets from the magazines with regard to wrapping food. I know you are not suppose to use newspaper. But is it alright to use the magazine sheets for wrapping food? Also are they both alright to use in garden composting? This question is also relevant when using dampened magazine sheets to clean down food surfaces and clean windows etc. Would anyone know how to explain simply how the method of printing is done differently between the magazines and the newspapers? Thanks for any advice. I think you only need to use your nose: though with widespread colour the line between magazine and newspaper is increasingly blurred. Most magazines smell horrible, and many give me a headache, therefore the ink isn't dry, and you don't want it in your food. (Some may be done on photocopiers, but even cured plastic toner can transfer on to say over head projector slides if you leave them stacked together too long.) I'm a bit out of date but one of the more headachy solvents I used to hate and smell in magazines was cyclohexanone. There are large numbers of inks and formulations as there is still a touch of alchemy involved. Many magazines still have ink that doesn't dry completely and you can quite often get a reversed image if you insert a piece of plastic and weigh it down for a while. You probably don't smudge it because most of the time your fingers are on the border of a magazine whereas you tend to touch the ink when you are folding the newspaper to read it. Shiny magazine paper is a pain to anyone who likes to make notes in margins etc. as biro smudges all over the place and pencil either won't write on it or rips it to pieces. Years ago they did feature non dirty newspaper ink in Tomorrow's World. Like everything else in that prog, it never caught on. I don't have any trouble with the Daily Mail, the ink does not stain my fingers and I have used it for wrapping apples when putting them in storage. Alan S |
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alan.holmes wrote: "Spamlet" wrote in message ... Shiny magazine paper is a pain to anyone who likes to make notes in margins etc. as biro smudges all over the place and pencil either won't write on it or rips it to pieces. Years ago they did feature non dirty newspaper ink in Tomorrow's World. Like everything else in that prog, it never caught on. I don't have any trouble with the Daily Mail, the ink does not stain my fingers and I have used it for wrapping apples when putting them in storage. Well, I am glad that that it has some uses. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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clean with magazine sheets but not newspaper?
"Spamlet" wrote in message ... "john hamilton" wrote in message ... After reading our newspapers we end up with an oily dirt on our hands, but not after reading the magazine supplements that come inside the newspapers or the television guide magazines. I wondering what the significance is with regard to using sheets from the magazines with regard to wrapping food. I know you are not suppose to use newspaper. But is it alright to use the magazine sheets for wrapping food? Also are they both alright to use in garden composting? This question is also relevant when using dampened magazine sheets to clean down food surfaces and clean windows etc. Would anyone know how to explain simply how the method of printing is done differently between the magazines and the newspapers? Thanks for any advice. I think you only need to use your nose: though with widespread colour the line between magazine and newspaper is increasingly blurred. Most magazines smell horrible, and many give me a headache, therefore the ink isn't dry, and you don't want it in your food. (Some may be done on photocopiers, but even cured plastic toner can transfer on to say over head projector slides if you leave them stacked together too long.) I'm a bit out of date but one of the more headachy solvents I used to hate and smell in magazines was cyclohexanone. There are large numbers of inks and formulations as there is still a touch of alchemy involved. Many magazines still have ink that doesn't dry completely and you can quite often get a reversed image if you insert a piece of plastic and weigh it down for a while. You probably don't smudge it because most of the time your fingers are on the border of a magazine whereas you tend to touch the ink when you are folding the newspaper to read it. Shiny magazine paper is a pain to anyone who likes to make notes in margins etc. as biro smudges all over the place and pencil either won't write on it or rips it to pieces. Years ago they did feature non dirty newspaper ink in Tomorrow's World. Like everything else in that prog, it never caught on. Clutch-head security screws. Saw them on TW in the 70s I think. Never saw them in the wild for years, now they are a common sight fastening public toilet cubical panels together. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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Graham.
wibbled on Thursday 29 July 2010 22:28 Clutch-head security screws. Saw them on TW in the 70s I think. Never saw them in the wild for years, now they are a common sight fastening public toilet cubical panels together. I can remember a few others that did too... Not necessarily that fast. Ronstrip. Or rather the same sort of caustic gunk applied to a large wooden area, coated with a blanket then pulled off an hour or so later, paint and all. I guess that form would never had made it in the market, but I'm almost certain Ronstrip must be the practical derivative. Talking-telephone-computer-menus: I saw that when I was a kid - thought: wow, an actual computer talking to you. Never guessed how bloody annoying it would be @-| Sure they must have done quite a bit on "self driving cars" which whilst that happened, look at the parking assist and the safety-distance-brake that are on quite a lot of cars now. -- Tim Watts Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer. |
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clean with magazine sheets but not newspaper?
On 27 July, 13:11, "john hamilton" wrote:
After reading our newspapers we end up with an oily dirt on our hands, but not after reading the magazine supplements that come inside the newspapers or the television guide magazines. I wondering what the significance is with regard to using sheets from the magazines with regard to wrapping food. I know you are not suppose to use newspaper. But is it alright to use the magazine sheets for wrapping food? Also are they both alright to use in garden composting? This question is also relevant when using dampened magazine sheets to clean down food surfaces and clean windows etc. Would anyone know how to explain simply how the method of printing is done differently between the magazines and the newspapers? * *Thanks for any advice. Newspaper is made almost entirely out of bleached wood fibres and won't take a sharp image. Magazine paper has a high proportion of china clay in it which give the smoother finish. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coated_paper Traditionally at least newspaper ink had traces of antimony and lead from the type metal. (poisonous) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_metal I think this is why they gave up wrapping fish & chips in newspaper! |
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clean with magazine sheets but not newspaper?
On Jul 28, 12:11 am, "john hamilton" wrote:
After reading our newspapers we end up with an oily dirt on our hands, When I were a lad, my mother used to make our sandwiches on newspaper. I was sometimes able to read the writing on my sandwiches by using a mirror! |
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clean with magazine sheets but not newspaper?
john hamilton wrote:
Would anyone know how to explain simply how the method of printing is done differently between the magazines and the newspapers? Thanks for any advice. The paper is much different. Glossy magazine paper is filled with kaolin (a mineral) and casein (protein from milk) as sizing and surface treatment. The printing process is also much different, with many more steps for a magazine page. For example, when there is both a glossy and a dull surface texture on the same page, that means they've done an extra pass to print a layer of shellac. Magazine papers may also have odorant additives. I would not use those papers for anything. |
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clean with magazine sheets but not newspaper?
"john hamilton" writes:
After reading our newspapers we end up with an oily dirt on our hands, but not after reading the magazine supplements that come inside the newspapers or the television guide magazines. Even were the printing processes identical for newspapers and the magazines, you would still find a marked difference in the extent their pages soil your fingers during handling. Most newspapers still use an oil-based ink, the oil being a slow-drying hydrocarbon solvent, and it takes days to evaporate. For the articles in newspapers to be current, they are usually printed on the morning that you read them, meaning their ink has not had a chance to dry. The supplements, on the other hand, are printed days ahead and the solvent in their ink has had plenty of time to dry (almost). Historically, inks have contained traces of toxic substances, especially the coloured inks, and I expect that in some countries that is still the case. But here in Australia, I have not heard anyone caution against the use of newpapers or magazines for gardens and composting. Presumably, the industry here is regulated to use only non-toxic inks. (The same does not apply to dyes in inks and cosmetics imported from China.) The search for a more environmentally-friendly printers ink has been a topic of much discussion over the years in our local daily, where invariably the response has been that available water-based inks still have one or more shortcomings in comparison with the traditional oil-based product. Only recently was it announced that an acceptable substitute has been developed. I don't know whether it's the ink, or the fibrous paper itself, which gives newspaper its recognised capacity to shine window panes and mirrors. Guess I could discover for myself by tearing off a handful of unprinted sheet borders and trying to polish a mirror with them. :-) Would anyone know how to explain simply how the method of printing is done differently between the magazines and the newspapers? Thanks for any advice. I can't address that as I don't know. Maybe someone else can or already has? Because our fingers (i.e., our skin) secrete both natural oils and also water (perspiration), we tend to get stained by dyes which are soluble in oil (i.e. the stuff from 'permanent' markers) and also by dyes which are soluble in water. The best (or worst) of both worlds, as it were. -- John Savage (my news address is not valid for email) |
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