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This was seen growing, apparently spontaneously, at the edge of a garden
access road. My best guess is sneezewort (Achillea ptarmica), but it
doesn't seem quite right - the habit is too compact, and the leaves too
short. Any other offers.

http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Compos06.jpg

The other leaves in the photograph are Solanum nigrum.
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This was seen growing, apparently spontaneously, at the edge of a garden
access road. My best guess is sneezewort (Achillea ptarmica), but it
doesn't seem quite right - the habit is too compact, and the leaves too
short. Any other offers.

http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Compos06.jpg

The other leaves in the photograph are Solanum nigrum.
You're right, I wouldn't have looked at that and said immediately "sneezewort". But there isn't anything totally wrong for sneezewort apart from the small size. And there aren't any obvious alternatives.

There is a possibility that it's a seedling of a garden variety growing in adverse circumstances. Following that thought, I've done a google image search and more or less convinced myself that it is indeed sneezewort.
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Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
This was seen growing, apparently spontaneously, at the edge of a
garden access road. My best guess is sneezewort (Achillea ptarmica),
but it doesn't seem quite right - the habit is too compact, and the
leaves too short. Any other offers.

http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Compos06.jpg

The other leaves in the photograph are Solanum nigrum.


Is your specimen aromatic? We had something in West Wales which I was
/sure/ was sneezewort, but it was lightly and pleasantly aromatic; but
since the Collins Field Guide explicitly said it was "not aromatic", in
Italics, I assume this is a diagnostic character, which implies a
similar species I don't know about. But I'm wondering if there may be
more varieties or forms of A. ptarmica than are recognised (at least by
the Guide: I haven't anything more advanced).

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Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
This was seen growing, apparently spontaneously, at the edge of a
garden access road. My best guess is sneezewort (Achillea ptarmica),
but it doesn't seem quite right - the habit is too compact, and the
leaves too short. Any other offers.

http://www.stewart.hinsley.me.uk/Images/Compos06.jpg

The other leaves in the photograph are Solanum nigrum.


Is your specimen aromatic?


Unfortunately, I didn't think to check that feature.

We had something in West Wales which I was
/sure/ was sneezewort, but it was lightly and pleasantly aromatic; but
since the Collins Field Guide explicitly said it was "not aromatic", in
Italics, I assume this is a diagnostic character, which implies a
similar species I don't know about. But I'm wondering if there may be
more varieties or forms of A. ptarmica than are recognised (at least by
the Guide: I haven't anything more advanced).


But you've jogged my memory. There's a plant known as Sweet Nancy or
English Mace (Achillea ageratum syn decolorans syn serrata), not
mentioned in the 1st edition of Stace, but with 3 records from Great
Britain, which from a photograph I took on a visit to Cumbria has
similar foliage. (It wasn't flowering at the time.)

Digging around the web I find some confusion - the name Achillea
ageratum is applied both to a plant with yellow discoid capitula, and
white radiate capitula. Achillea decolorans and Achillea serrata appear
to only be associated with the latter.

There are other white-flowered Achilleas, but I'm not finding a match.

For all I know it may be Achillea ptarmica.
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