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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:47:30 +0100, "Kathy McIntosh"
wrote: During a conversation about the weather in work, I happened to mention that when it rains, one of my cats has a habit of bringing frogs in, which then take refuge in their water dish. Someone remarked that they didn't like frogs because her Grandfather would stick his fork through them if he found them in his greenhouse. I said what a shame, think of all the good they could do [thinking of them eating unwanted bugs]. The general opinion was that you *don't* want frogs in your greenhouse, but no one knew why. So, why not? Now we have an apology - of sorts - from Harry (who has still not apparently read the original post properly), I'd like to have a shot at actually answering Kathy's question. There are a lot of superstitions surrounding frogs - some say that if one enters your house it brings good luck; others say bad luck. Touching a frog is supposed to make you infertile. All that money wasted neutering the cat!!!!! Powdered frog livers are supposed to ward off epileptic fits. When it came to enhancing the magic in the bedroom, the frog was seen as a beneficial creature. One tale speaks of a young lady whose lover was not being faithful to her. She stuck pins into a live frog and then buried the animal in the ground. As a result, it is said that the young man underwent extreme pain and in the end, made his way back to the girl. She dug up the frog and removed the pins, which caused the pain to vanish. The two wind up marrying but, presumably, had no children! Maybe a lot of this stems from Biblical sources. If you have a Bible handy, have a quick look at Revelation 16: 13-14 where frogs are given a devilish connotation. Cheers |
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"Jake" wrote in message
... On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:47:30 +0100, "Kathy McIntosh" wrote: During a conversation about the weather in work, I happened to mention that when it rains, one of my cats has a habit of bringing frogs in, which then take refuge in their water dish. Someone remarked that they didn't like frogs because her Grandfather would stick his fork through them if he found them in his greenhouse. I said what a shame, think of all the good they could do [thinking of them eating unwanted bugs]. The general opinion was that you *don't* want frogs in your greenhouse, but no one knew why. So, why not? Now we have an apology - of sorts - from Harry (who has still not apparently read the original post properly), I'd like to have a shot at actually answering Kathy's question. There are a lot of superstitions surrounding frogs - some say that if one enters your house it brings good luck; others say bad luck. Touching a frog is supposed to make you infertile. All that money wasted neutering the cat!!!!! Powdered frog livers are supposed to ward off epileptic fits. When it came to enhancing the magic in the bedroom, the frog was seen as a beneficial creature. One tale speaks of a young lady whose lover was not being faithful to her. She stuck pins into a live frog and then buried the animal in the ground. As a result, it is said that the young man underwent extreme pain and in the end, made his way back to the girl. She dug up the frog and removed the pins, which caused the pain to vanish. The two wind up marrying but, presumably, had no children! Maybe a lot of this stems from Biblical sources. If you have a Bible handy, have a quick look at Revelation 16: 13-14 where frogs are given a devilish connotation. Cheers Thanks Jake. We have lots of frogs and toads in our greenhouse on the lottie, but that's probably because we don't have any glass in it yet! -- Kathy |
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In message , Sacha
writes On 2010-10-01 19:14:34 +0100, harry said: On 1 Oct, 17:54, Jake wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 06:01:03 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: On 30 Sep, 16:43, "Kathy McIntosh" wrote: snip "harry" wrote in message One can only conclude that your grandad was a nasty ignorant man. One can only conclude that you can't read adequately to access newsgroup successfully. Read my post again, decode it correctly, then you can apologize for th at comment. I remarked that the grandfather was a nasty ignorant man. I see no reason to change this view. *It would be my view about anyone that deliberately stuck a fork in a frog or any other creature. Harry there is a lot of difference between the words "the" and "your". Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I would certainly agree that someone who kills any creature out of some sort of spite falls into the nasty category. However please could you explain, in simple terms, how you are able to conclude that Kathy's grandfather is nasty and ignorant (your original reply used the word "your") on the basis of her report about the behaviour of an entirely different grandfather. If you can't explain, perhaps you would now have the simple good grace to apologise to her for the insult, however inadvertent that might have been.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well if he's not her grandad I'm sorry to her. But the grandad is an evil *******. Whoever he belongs to. I don't see the reason for bringing the topic up anyway. unless to gain some strange notoriety or to grab attention. I think it's time you back off. You've insulted someone, bad mouthed a non-relative of theirs by association and made a bit of a fool of yourself, while trying now to turn it into their fault for asking a legitimate gardening question. Not a shrewd move. Not at all. For myself, I now question why you're on this group. Others may do the same because much of what you appear to do is cause trouble or offence. There is no reason for that, really, none at all. Your style of posting is beginning to ring bells and they don't chime too happily with me. "Harry" has been in my killfile for some time now as I have found his contributions tasteless, offensive and ignorant. However, I still have to read his contributions when others respond to his ravings and I am interested in what Kathy, Tina, Sacha, Rusty et al have to say to the group. Therefore, why doesn't everyone put our 'Arry in the killfile? Then we'll all be spared his vitriol... at least until he reinvents himself. Or there may be a Damascene conversion and he'll re-emerge in more acceptable form. -- Gopher .... I know my place! |
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On 1 Oct, 19:59, Jake wrote:
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:47:30 +0100, "Kathy McIntosh" wrote: During a conversation about the weather in work, I happened to mention that when it rains, one of my cats has a habit of bringing frogs in, which then take refuge in their water dish. *Someone remarked that they didn't like frogs because her Grandfather would stick his fork through them if he found them in his greenhouse. *I said what a shame, think of all the good they could do [thinking of them eating unwanted bugs]. *The general opinion was that you *don't* want frogs in your greenhouse, but no one knew why. So, why not? Now we have an apology - of sorts - from Harry (who has still not apparently read the original post properly), I'd like to have a shot at actually answering Kathy's question. There are a lot of superstitions surrounding frogs - some say that if one enters your house it brings good luck; others say bad luck. Touching a frog is supposed to make you infertile. All that money wasted neutering the cat!!!!! Powdered frog livers are supposed to ward off epileptic fits. When it came to enhancing the magic in the bedroom, the frog was seen as a beneficial creature. One tale speaks of a young lady whose lover was not being faithful to her. She stuck pins into a live frog and then buried the animal in the ground. As a result, it is said that the young man underwent extreme pain and in the end, made his way back to the girl. She dug up the frog and removed the pins, which caused the pain to vanish. The two wind up marrying but, presumably, had no children! Maybe a lot of this stems from Biblical sources. If you have a Bible handy, have a quick look at Revelation 16: 13-14 where frogs are given a devilish connotation. Cheers Well superstition = ignorance in my book. And some things need saying. I am not worried about offending people if something needs saying. There's too much bending of essential truths goes on in these "PC" days. And there is no more superstition and evil about than is prated in the bible and other religious books. Religion is the root of most evil. Together with ignorance. I'm sorry if I misread the post, but that is/was one evil/ignorant *******. |
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And where does legitimate peer pressure end and bullying begin?
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On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 23:31:29 +0100, "Kathy McIntosh"
wrote: stuff snipped Thanks Jake. We have lots of frogs and toads in our greenhouse on the lottie, but that's probably because we don't have any glass in it yet! Wot, no glass? Maybe that's why what used to be called "glass houses" are now called "green houses" ;-)) In a post a few weeks back I mentioned that a clearance of my pond had to be delayed because I'd found newly hatched tadpoles and some frog spawn in August. Happy to report that a late batch of tadpoles has rapidly developed and I'm just hoping that they get far enough to survive the winter. I've put some shelters around the pond and will keep fingers crossed. |
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On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 02:24:49 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote: other stuff snipped Well superstition = ignorance in my book. And some things need saying. I am not worried about offending people if something needs saying. There's too much bending of essential truths goes on in these "PC" days. And there is no more superstition and evil about than is prated in the bible and other religious books. Religion is the root of most evil. Together with ignorance. I'm sorry if I misread the post, but that is/was one evil/ignorant *******. Harry Why cannot you learn? Your last "apology" was something I called "an apology of sorts" because having apologised you immediately criticised the OP's motives for posting (which showed you hadn't read the post!). Now you indulge in another self-opinionated (and I might construe illl-informed) rant about religion and superstition. You also continue to make assumptions about the parentage of the "grandfather" referred to in the OP. He may have been (in my words) "nasty" (I can only say "may" as I don't know his motives for killing frogs) but I won't call him "evil" or "ignorant" because I didn't know him and I cannot say he was a "*******" as I know nothing about his parents. So your second apology is again tainted with ranting. It's not so long ago that you were attracting praise for your successful efforts to hatch out some grass snake eggs. So you do have a compassionate side. Perhaps we could see more of that and less of the abrupt Harry. You're entitled to your opinions, as are we all, but there are ways to get a message across. We cannot "see" you - only "read" you so we don't have the benefit of facial expressions to moderate your tone. As Jim Hacker said "there's good in everyone". So come on mate, let's see that. Cheers |
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In message , Jake
writes There are a lot of superstitions surrounding frogs - some say that if one enters your house it brings good luck; others say bad luck. Touching a frog is supposed to make you infertile. All that money wasted neutering the cat!!!!! Powdered frog livers are supposed to ward off epileptic fits. When it came to enhancing the magic in the bedroom, the frog was seen as a beneficial creature. One tale speaks of a young lady whose lover was not being faithful to her. She stuck pins into a live frog and then buried the animal in the ground. As a result, it is said that the young man underwent extreme pain and in the end, made his way back to the girl. She dug up the frog and removed the pins, which caused the pain to vanish. The two wind up marrying but, presumably, had no children! Maybe a lot of this stems from Biblical sources. If you have a Bible handy, have a quick look at Revelation 16: 13-14 where frogs are given a devilish connotation. Cheers Looking back a few years I am still baffled about the mysterious case of the frog in the toilet bowl.... I had approached the toilet with a view to using it, and was amazed to see a frog floating around in the water. I have never quite worked out how it could have got there, it certainly couldn't have hopped through the house, up the stairs and hopped into the bowl. The only way I found credible was that it had entered via the soil pipe, either by crawling up from the drains (suggesting that it was a toad), or possibly having been seized and dropped by a large bird, it may have dropped down the unprotected top of the pipe and lodged on the junction near the top. It is a true story, and apart from hearing apocryphal tales of "it rained frogs", I know of no other instance.... -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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"Gordon H" wrote in message Cheers Looking back a few years I am still baffled about the mysterious case of the frog in the toilet bowl.... I had approached the toilet with a view to using it, and was amazed to see a frog floating around in the water. I have never quite worked out how it could have got there, it certainly couldn't have hopped through the house, up the stairs and hopped into the bowl. The only way I found credible was that it had entered via the soil pipe, either by crawling up from the drains (suggesting that it was a toad), or possibly having been seized and dropped by a large bird, it may have dropped down the unprotected top of the pipe and lodged on the junction near the top. It is a true story, and apart from hearing apocryphal tales of "it rained frogs", I know of no other instance.... It's certainly more spectacular than when I found a newt in my dog's water bowl, for sure ;-) Tina |
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In article , Gordon H
writes I have never quite worked out how it could have got there, it certainly couldn't have hopped through the house, up the stairs Yes it could, i found one hopping up onto the top stair in my house and another was hopping around behind the settee once. It only narrowly escaped being flattened by two curious Dalmatians! They must come in when the doors are open and heaven only knows how long they had been in doors! -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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In message , Janet Tweedy
writes In article , Gordon H writes I have never quite worked out how it could have got there, it certainly couldn't have hopped through the house, up the stairs Yes it could, i found one hopping up onto the top stair in my house Did you try kissing it? and another was hopping around behind the settee once. It only narrowly escaped being flattened by two curious Dalmatians! They must come in when the doors are open and heaven only knows how long they had been in doors! I have heard of dogs (even cats?) bringing frogs into a house, but I have no animals, and all doors have weather protection across the threshold and are kept closed except when I need to get in or out. I'm still sceptical... I have had frogs/toads crawl through the extremely narrow gap under my garage personnel door. Sadly, they seem to like nestling under the tread of my car tyres, which has resulted in at least two tragedies. :-( -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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And might I ad, Sticking a fork through a frog? what a horrid thing to do. Deary me!
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