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Sweet corn grown in lawn
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... Rob wrote An amazing and audacious experiement, growing sweet corn in lawn. My neighbour, who has the run off where I plant a crop of sweet corn every season, has finally decided at 93 that it is time he moved in to a rest home. The house is going on the market. No growing in his garden this year. My existing raised gardens are fully at present. So, I have grown sweet corn seedlings and planted them into the lawn. First I scalped the grass with the lawn mower. I dug a slit into the soil, like planters do when planting pine trees, and placed the SC seedlings into the slit and then closed it back up. The soil is loamy and because it was undisturbed lawn, has good structure. The soil should be fertile and have enough nutrients in it. It may need to be irrigated more regularly than in a garden but I can take care of that. Anyone have any comments or advice? The only problems I can foresee are keeping the lawn cut below/ between the sweetcorn, and getting the plants up once they are finished. Took me a while to realise your are in NZ, was a bit confused about planting sweetcorn now (in the UK). It's an age thing. :-) I forgot to add I intend to put a raised garden in the spot once corn crop is finished so shading, stalks etc isn't so much of a concern. Once I have harvested the crop & built the garden frame, the corn residue can go into the garden to rot down over the cooler months. I think I have given the corn enough of a head start so not to be out competed by grass. I anticipate I can trim or stomp the grass around the rows. I did see the grass acting as a natural ground cover. The only big issue I can see with the grass is competition for water however I have a plan to regularly water the area with a supply I have onsite. Ultimately the evidence of success will be about Feb-March next year. Still, if I am missing anything, I will welcome it being pointed out. Rob |
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Sweet corn grown in lawn
On 31 Oct, 03:56, "George" wrote:
"harry" wrote in message ... On 30 Oct, 08:48, "George" wrote: An amazing and audacious experiement, growing sweet corn in lawn. My neighbour, who has the run off where I plant a crop of sweet corn every season, has finally decided at 93 that it is time he moved in to a rest home. The house is going on the market. No growing in his garden this year. My existing raised gardens are fully at present. So, I have grown sweet corn seedlings and planted them into the lawn. First I scalped the grass with the lawn mower. I dug a slit into the soil, like planters do when planting pine trees, and placed the SC seedlings into the slit and then closed it back up. The soil is loamy and because it was undisturbed lawn, has good structure. The soil should be fertile and have enough nutrients in it. It may need to be irrigated more regularly than in a garden but I can take care of that. Anyone have any comments or advice? Rob Sweet corn needs a good soil to succeed. *Most lawns are nitrogen deficient, panned down and liable to water logging. *The exact opposite to what it needs. Harry. The lawn has good clover cover and has been fertilised with organic fertilisers over the years. I also mulch much of the clippings back in to it. I am assuming it will be fertile however your comment could well be the case. Thanks for the comment. Some extra feeding may be required so I will monitor that. The lawn itself is well draining and doesn't suffer from being too wet. The soil structure is good. rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The presence of clover indicates nitrogen deficiency as is common in lawns. Clover can fix nitrogen out of the air (with the aid of certain bacteria). This enables it to out compete the grass which can't do this. |
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Sweet corn grown in lawn
On 31 Oct, 04:01, "George" wrote:
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... Rob *wrote An amazing and audacious experiement, growing sweet corn in lawn. My neighbour, who has the run off where I plant a crop of sweet corn every season, has finally decided at 93 that it is time he moved in to a rest home. The house is going on the market. No growing in his garden this year. My existing raised gardens are fully at present. So, I have grown sweet corn seedlings and planted them into the lawn. First I scalped the grass with the lawn mower. I dug a slit into the soil, like planters do when planting pine trees, and placed the SC seedlings into the slit and then closed it back up. The soil is loamy and because it was undisturbed lawn, has good structure. The soil should be fertile and have enough nutrients in it. It may need to be irrigated more regularly than in a garden but I can take care of that. Anyone have any comments or advice? The only problems I can foresee are keeping the lawn cut below/ between the sweetcorn, and getting the plants up once they are finished. Took me a while to realise your are in NZ, was a bit confused about planting sweetcorn now (in the UK). It's an age thing. :-) I forgot to add I intend to put a raised garden in the spot once corn crop is finished so shading, stalks etc isn't so much of a concern. Once I have harvested the crop & built the garden frame, the corn residue can go into the garden to rot down over the cooler months. I think I have given the corn enough of a head start so not to be out competed by grass. I anticipate I can trim or stomp the grass around the rows. I did see the grass acting as a natural ground cover. The only big issue I can see with the grass is competition for water however I have a plan to regularly water the area with a supply I have onsite. Ultimately the evidence of success will be about Feb-March next year. Still, if I am missing anything, I will welcome it being pointed out. Rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sweet corn IS grass. |
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"George" wrote in message
... "harry" wrote in message On 30 Oct, 08:48, "George" wrote: An amazing and audacious experiement, growing sweet corn in lawn. My neighbour, who has the run off where I plant a crop of sweet corn every season, has finally decided at 93 that it is time he moved in to a rest home. The house is going on the market. No growing in his garden this year. My existing raised gardens are fully at present. So, I have grown sweet corn seedlings and planted them into the lawn. First I scalped the grass with the lawn mower. I dug a slit into the soil, like planters do when planting pine trees, and placed the SC seedlings into the slit and then closed it back up. The soil is loamy and because it was undisturbed lawn, has good structure. The soil should be fertile and have enough nutrients in it. It may need to be irrigated more regularly than in a garden but I can take care of that. Anyone have any comments or advice? Rob Sweet corn needs a good soil to succeed. Most lawns are nitrogen deficient, panned down and liable to water logging. The exact opposite to what it needs. Harry. The lawn has good clover cover and has been fertilised with organic fertilisers over the years. I also mulch much of the clippings back in to it. I am assuming it will be fertile however your comment could well be the case. Thanks for the comment. Some extra feeding may be required so I will monitor that. The lawn itself is well draining and doesn't suffer from being too wet. The soil structure is good. Knowing you are an experienced gardener, I assume you'd be adding a rich and very deep mulch to your corn as it grows so you might not need extra feeding in such a circumstance. |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message ... "George" wrote in message ... "harry" wrote in message On 30 Oct, 08:48, "George" wrote: An amazing and audacious experiement, growing sweet corn in lawn. My neighbour, who has the run off where I plant a crop of sweet corn every season, has finally decided at 93 that it is time he moved in to a rest home. The house is going on the market. No growing in his garden this year. My existing raised gardens are fully at present. So, I have grown sweet corn seedlings and planted them into the lawn. First I scalped the grass with the lawn mower. I dug a slit into the soil, like planters do when planting pine trees, and placed the SC seedlings into the slit and then closed it back up. The soil is loamy and because it was undisturbed lawn, has good structure. The soil should be fertile and have enough nutrients in it. It may need to be irrigated more regularly than in a garden but I can take care of that. Anyone have any comments or advice? Rob Sweet corn needs a good soil to succeed. Most lawns are nitrogen deficient, panned down and liable to water logging. The exact opposite to what it needs. Harry. The lawn has good clover cover and has been fertilised with organic fertilisers over the years. I also mulch much of the clippings back in to it. I am assuming it will be fertile however your comment could well be the case. Thanks for the comment. Some extra feeding may be required so I will monitor that. The lawn itself is well draining and doesn't suffer from being too wet. The soil structure is good. Knowing you are an experienced gardener, I assume you'd be adding a rich and very deep mulch to your corn as it grows so you might not need extra feeding in such a circumstance. it was suggested I could mulch one half and see which half did better, mulched or unmulched, as a experiment. rob |
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Sweet corn grown in lawn
In message , Martin
writes On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 22:18:47 +1300, "George" wrote: "shazzbat" wrote in message ... "George" wrote in message ... An amazing and audacious experiement, growing sweet corn in lawn. My neighbour, who has the run off where I plant a crop of sweet corn every season, has finally decided at 93 that it is time he moved in to a rest home. The house is going on the market. No growing in his garden this year. My existing raised gardens are fully at present. So, I have grown sweet corn seedlings and planted them into the lawn. First I scalped the grass with the lawn mower. I dug a slit into the soil, like planters do when planting pine trees, and placed the SC seedlings into the slit and then closed it back up. The soil is loamy and because it was undisturbed lawn, has good structure. The soil should be fertile and have enough nutrients in it. It may need to be irrigated more regularly than in a garden but I can take care of that. Anyone have any comments or advice? I think the new owners might have an opinion, especially if/when it's ready to harvest. There are no new owners. It is my lawn on my property and my crop. There may be new owners when I depart the mortal coil. By then this season sweet corn crop will be a distant memory of decades past. "The house is going on the market. No growing in his garden this year." Is the house being sold, but not the garden? The neighbours house is being sold, so George can't grow his Sweetcorn there anymore. so he is planting them in his lawn. I think it'll be ok. Are you wanting to keep this as grass in the future George? If not I'd be tempted to mulch over the grass between the plants with something like straw to keep the grass down. -- Chris French |
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Sweet corn grown in lawn
"Martin" wrote in message ... On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:50:28 +1300, "George" wrote: "Martin" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 22:18:47 +1300, "George" wrote: "shazzbat" wrote in message ... "George" wrote in message ... An amazing and audacious experiement, growing sweet corn in lawn. My neighbour, who has the run off where I plant a crop of sweet corn every season, has finally decided at 93 that it is time he moved in to a rest home. The house is going on the market. No growing in his garden this year. My existing raised gardens are fully at present. So, I have grown sweet corn seedlings and planted them into the lawn. First I scalped the grass with the lawn mower. I dug a slit into the soil, like planters do when planting pine trees, and placed the SC seedlings into the slit and then closed it back up. The soil is loamy and because it was undisturbed lawn, has good structure. The soil should be fertile and have enough nutrients in it. It may need to be irrigated more regularly than in a garden but I can take care of that. Anyone have any comments or advice? I think the new owners might have an opinion, especially if/when it's ready to harvest. There are no new owners. It is my lawn on my property and my crop. There may be new owners when I depart the mortal coil. By then this season sweet corn crop will be a distant memory of decades past. "The house is going on the market. No growing in his garden this year." Is the house being sold, but not the garden? No, he is selling the entire lot - freehold house on freehold land. No cross lease etc, all going on the market as an entire package. Usual form of home ownership over here is house and land both freehold. My apologies, I thought you were planting sweet corn on your neighbour's lawn. Oh, no in my lawn. Unavailability of garden space at Roys & full gardens at my place lead to this idea. rob |
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Sweet corn grown in lawn
"George" wrote in message
... "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message ... "George" wrote in message ... "harry" wrote in message On 30 Oct, 08:48, "George" wrote: An amazing and audacious experiement, growing sweet corn in lawn. My neighbour, who has the run off where I plant a crop of sweet corn every season, has finally decided at 93 that it is time he moved in to a rest home. The house is going on the market. No growing in his garden this year. My existing raised gardens are fully at present. So, I have grown sweet corn seedlings and planted them into the lawn. First I scalped the grass with the lawn mower. I dug a slit into the soil, like planters do when planting pine trees, and placed the SC seedlings into the slit and then closed it back up. The soil is loamy and because it was undisturbed lawn, has good structure. The soil should be fertile and have enough nutrients in it. It may need to be irrigated more regularly than in a garden but I can take care of that. Anyone have any comments or advice? Rob Sweet corn needs a good soil to succeed. Most lawns are nitrogen deficient, panned down and liable to water logging. The exact opposite to what it needs. Harry. The lawn has good clover cover and has been fertilised with organic fertilisers over the years. I also mulch much of the clippings back in to it. I am assuming it will be fertile however your comment could well be the case. Thanks for the comment. Some extra feeding may be required so I will monitor that. The lawn itself is well draining and doesn't suffer from being too wet. The soil structure is good. Knowing you are an experienced gardener, I assume you'd be adding a rich and very deep mulch to your corn as it grows so you might not need extra feeding in such a circumstance. it was suggested I could mulch one half and see which half did better, mulched or unmulched, as a experiment. If you live in a warm area, I'll lay pounds to peanuts it'll be the mulched side. |
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Sweet corn grown in lawn
"chris French" wrote in message
... In message , Martin writes On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 22:18:47 +1300, "George" wrote: "shazzbat" wrote in message ... "George" wrote in message ... An amazing and audacious experiement, growing sweet corn in lawn. My neighbour, who has the run off where I plant a crop of sweet corn every season, has finally decided at 93 that it is time he moved in to a rest home. The house is going on the market. No growing in his garden this year. My existing raised gardens are fully at present. So, I have grown sweet corn seedlings and planted them into the lawn. First I scalped the grass with the lawn mower. I dug a slit into the soil, like planters do when planting pine trees, and placed the SC seedlings into the slit and then closed it back up. The soil is loamy and because it was undisturbed lawn, has good structure. The soil should be fertile and have enough nutrients in it. It may need to be irrigated more regularly than in a garden but I can take care of that. Anyone have any comments or advice? I think the new owners might have an opinion, especially if/when it's ready to harvest. There are no new owners. It is my lawn on my property and my crop. There may be new owners when I depart the mortal coil. By then this season sweet corn crop will be a distant memory of decades past. "The house is going on the market. No growing in his garden this year." Is the house being sold, but not the garden? The neighbours house is being sold, so George can't grow his Sweetcorn there anymore. so he is planting them in his lawn. No. (George's) [aka] Rob's neighbour who has had the benefit of the run off from where (George) [aka] Rob has grown his sweet corn in the past. Now, that neighbour who is elderly is going into care and won't be getting the benefit of the run off because he (the neighbour) won't be gardening there any more. |
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