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Picking up Sachas question of what to get a gardener for Xmas.
I would love to get a permanant marker that actualy was permanant. In the US of A they used a Laundry marker but that has now been taken off the market, and I like so many others find that the Sharpie is no longer fade proof, So Please Santa can I have A MARKER THAT DOESN'T FADE. |
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, Dave Hill writes Picking up Sachas question of what to get a gardener for Xmas. I would love to get a permanant marker that actualy was permanant. In the US of A they used a Laundry marker but that has now been taken off the market, and I like so many others find that the Sharpie is no longer fade proof, So Please Santa can I have A MARKER THAT DOESN'T FADE. Me too please, Santa! -- Gopher .... I know my place! |
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writes So Please Santa can I have A MARKER THAT DOESN'T FADE. Me too please, Santa! I find 2b pencils last longer than the 'permanent' markers now. -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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On 05/12/2010 09:39, Dave Hill wrote:
Picking up Sachas question of what to get a gardener for Xmas. I would love to get a permanant marker that actualy was permanant. In the US of A they used a Laundry marker but that has now been taken off the market, and I like so many others find that the Sharpie is no longer fade proof, So Please Santa can I have A MARKER THAT DOESN'T FADE. Perhaps not quite what you are after, but these may answer your question: http://www.theessentialscompany.co.uk/Black_Labels.html -- Jeff |
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Dave Hill wrote:
So Please Santa can I have A MARKER THAT DOESN'T FADE. As the urban legend about the NASA pen goes ... just use a pencil. :-) |
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On Dec 5, 9:39*am, Dave Hill wrote:
Picking up Sachas question of what to get a gardener for Xmas. I would love to get a permanant marker that actualy was permanant. In the US of A they used a Laundry marker but that has now been taken off the market, and I like so many others find that the Sharpie is no longer fade proof, So Please Santa can I have A MARKER THAT DOESN'T FADE. I use these at work: http://www.staedtler.co.uk/Lumocolor...s_uk.Staedtler the red and green fade a bit, but the purple, black, & blue seem to last many years. The gold or silver oil-based pens on a black label would last a long time There is a thing called an Eding 780, a white oil=based marker for black backgrounds. And a whole range of oil- and chalk-based blackboard pens used for blackboard menus & things. Chinagraph pencils may be what you want, of course. |
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Janet writes Me too, it;s not much to ask, is it? One Christmas J gave me an engraving kit, an electric gadget which can quite quickly engrave an aluminium plant tag that will last for ever. It's excellent but only useful for permanent plants; not for the multiplicity of seedtrays, cutting pots and veg rows. Janet The Which magazine proposed that we paint plastic labels or old recycled plastic bottles, with black paint and then scratch the name on with an empty brio, Not at all sure this would work, how much paint and what kind for example? -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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In message , Janet Tweedy
writes In article , Janet writes Me too, it;s not much to ask, is it? One Christmas J gave me an engraving kit, an electric gadget which can quite quickly engrave an aluminium plant tag that will last for ever. It's excellent but only useful for permanent plants; not for the multiplicity of seedtrays, cutting pots and veg rows. Janet The Which magazine proposed that we paint plastic labels or old recycled plastic bottles, with black paint and then scratch the name on with an empty brio, Not at all sure this would work, how much paint and what kind for example? Most paints will stick - even kids poster paints, but these would give thin coverage and longevity will probably not be so go with that or emulsion. Best would probably be an acrylic paint, heardwearing, and quick drying, or gloss paint. How much - well 'enough' I guess, doesn't seem very critical, and a quick bit of experimentation would give a suitable coverage. -- Chris French |
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writes Did Which magazine say why we should do this? Was it in order to save the planet?? No, think it was to save money and to find the method that lasts,longer than those allegedly permanent markers. -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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In message , Malcolm
writes In article , chris French writes In message , Janet Tweedy writes In article , Janet writes Me too, it;s not much to ask, is it? One Christmas J gave me an engraving kit, an electric gadget which can quite quickly engrave an aluminium plant tag that will last for ever. It's excellent but only useful for permanent plants; not for the multiplicity of seedtrays, cutting pots and veg rows. Janet The Which magazine proposed that we paint plastic labels or old recycled plastic bottles, with black paint and then scratch the name on with an empty brio, Not at all sure this would work, how much paint and what kind for example? Most paints will stick - even kids poster paints, but these would give thin coverage and longevity will probably not be so go with that or emulsion. Best would probably be an acrylic paint, heardwearing, and quick drying, or gloss paint. How much - well 'enough' I guess, doesn't seem very critical, and a quick bit of experimentation would give a suitable coverage. Did Which magazine say why we should do this? Was it in order to save the planet?? If so, my guess would be that acrylic or hard gloss paint would cost as much in money and materials as buying some new labels! Presumably longer lasting labels? Cost of paint might be nothing if someone has some left over from decorating. -- Chris French |
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chris French wrote:
Presumably longer lasting labels? Cost of paint might be nothing if someone has some left over from decorating. My dad always used wooden labels and a soft black pencil. I can still remember him each year with an old paint pot and a scrap of cloth over his finger, giving each label a wipe of fresh paint. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh. |
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Janet wrote:
One Christmas J gave me an engraving kit, an electric gadget which can quite quickly engrave an aluminium plant tag that will last for ever. It's excellent but only useful for permanent plants; not for the multiplicity of seedtrays, cutting pots and veg rows. Nick finally got fed up trying to crunch out labels with the silly dymo label maker thing and has invested in an electric one where he can print out a bunch of identical labels for pots as easily as doing one. I was a bit annoyed when he got it cos it's just /yet another thing/ to go in the house, but I have to say, it does a good job. |
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On Dec 5, 9:44*pm, wrote:
Janet wrote: *One Christmas J gave me an engraving kit, an electric gadget which can quite quickly engrave an aluminium plant tag that will last for ever. It's excellent but *only useful for permanent plants; not for the multiplicity of seedtrays, cutting pots and veg rows. Nick finally got fed up trying to crunch out labels with the silly dymo label maker thing and has invested in an electric one where he can print out a bunch of identical labels for pots as easily as doing one. *I was a bit annoyed when he got it cos it's just /yet another thing/ to go in the house, but I have to say, it does a good job. My problem is doing around 500 large field labels, pencil is to fine, and to do them by machine is going to be expensive, I'm sure there is an answer somewhere out there. |
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 02:25:12 -0800 (PST), Dave Hill
wrote: My problem is doing around 500 large field labels, pencil is to fine, and to do them by machine is going to be expensive, I'm sure there is an answer somewhere out there. This may be a bit time consuming but if you have access to a laser printer (or photocopier, maybe in a copy shop) rather than inkjet which will fade in sunlight, you could try printing or copying your field labels onto sheets of appropriately sized laser labels. These aren't waterproof but could be stuck on whatever and then covered with clear waterproof tape - you should be able to get a 5cm wide by 30+m long roll for £5-6. I've used this method to put small "signs" on the outside of buildings and they've lasted for a couple of years so far. |
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writes These aren't waterproof but c Laminated is better, Just make sure you don't cut them up to the paper, i.e. leave a margin of clear laminate round each one to make sure they are fully sealed. Janet -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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